ErsatzThistle Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Bobster said: Look at the vitriol heaped on those that do. I agree with Malcolm in that it should be a personal decision and not forced on anyone. Found that an interesting article mind. How exactly was my post "vitriol" ? I don't believe the myth that "our brave boys" were always heroes or that there is something glorious and honourable about getting shot to pieces on a muddy battlefield for rich men's benefit. Never heard of how people selling white poppies of the Peace Pledge Union out on streets every year get verbally abused, subject to intimidation and even physically assaulted ? Edited November 1, 2017 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobster Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, ErsatzThistle said: How exactly was my post "vitriol" ? Bitter criticism, bitter feelings. On 30/10/2017 at 6:41 PM, ErsatzThistle said: It's time to put this nauseating, jingoistic celebration of militarism, death and destruction in the bin where it belongs I’ve no problem with your criticism or feelings. I can’t remember ever having worn a poppy myself but wouldn’t try to stop anyone from doing so if that were their wish. As I said, Flure’s article is an interesting one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, ErsatzThistle said: How exactly was my post "vitriol" ? I don't believe the myth that "our brave boys" were always heroes or that there is something glorious and honourable about getting shot to pieces on a muddy battlefield for rich men's benefit. Never heard of how people selling white poppies of the Peace Pledge Union out on streets every year get verbally abused, subject to intimidation and even physically assaulted ? Its up to you... entitled to your opinion. War is indeed not glorious... it’s horrible. Personally I choose to remember those that made a sacrifice, often not of their choosing, to allow me and my ancestors the freedoms that I have today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Its up to you... entitled to your opinion. War is indeed not glorious... it’s horrible. Personally I choose to remember those that made a sacrifice, often not of their choosing, to allow me and my ancestors the freedoms that I have today. That's right Captain Mainwaring because you are so much better than the rest of us nasty people. 19 minutes ago, Bobster said: Bitter criticism, bitter feelings. Eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: That's right Captain Mainwaring because you are so much better than the rest of us nasty people. Eh ? Don't you ever tire of coming across like a tube? Your opinions are fine, sometimes laudable, you just seem incapable of expressing them without at the same time imputing views onto fellow posters that they clearly do not hold. It's a weird defensive tic, and rather unbecoming. No need to thank me ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DonnyTJS said: Don't you ever tire of coming across like a tube? Your opinions are fine, sometimes laudable, you just seem incapable of expressing them without at the same time imputing views onto fellow posters that they clearly do not hold. It's a weird defensive tic, and rather unbecoming. No need to thank me ... And do you ever tire of being the most utterly pretentious, psuedo-intellectual, la-di-da, know it all ? It's so obvious anyway your always just looking up something on the internet and then pretending to know what your talking about. I'm fine with who I am. If you don't like it you can always block my posts ok ? Edited November 1, 2017 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymac Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 pseudo-intellectual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Always worth revisiting this one in November... https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2015/nov/10/david-squires-on-football-and-remembrance-day Edited November 1, 2017 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 No it’s not but they do own them and they decide what goes on them and there will probably be poppies on them next week so I guess people will just need to get used to the idea. There were poppies on our shirts at Wembley last November and the world didn’t come to an end so it looks like the matter isn’t all that important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobster Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: Eh ? I'm not sure what you don't understand? I answered your question. I suspect that this could get pretty boring for others though so if you really don't understand then maybe send me a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Last year was totally different, the game was on the 11th and was a Scotland England game. Nationalist, Unionist or what ever, if you couldn't show any respect for you heritage on that occasion I pity you. Back to normal now and should be up to the individual. The I'm better than you I don't(majority on here) and the I'm better than you I do ( majority elsewhere) really should stop making themselves look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Last year was totally different, the game was on the 11th and was a Scotland England game. Nationalist, Unionist or what ever, if you couldn't show any respect for you heritage on that occasion I pity you. Back to normal now and should be up to the individual. The I'm better than you I don't(majority on here) and the I'm better than you I do ( majority elsewhere) really should stop making themselves look stupid. So it shouldn’t have been up to the individual last year due to rules that you’ve clearly made up but it should be up to the individual this year? How bizarre. The rest of your post is spot on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Texas Pete said: So it shouldn’t have been up to the individual last year due to rules that you’ve clearly made up but it should be up to the individual this year? How bizarre. The rest of your post is spot on though. No what I said was that last year everyone should have wanted to wear the poppy as mark of respect because of the circumstances. Odds on there being a major sporting occasion 100 years after the first world war on the 11th of November involving Scotland and England were pretty slim. So what I'm saying is that last year it was up to the individual but every one should have wanted to wear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: No what I said was that last year everyone should have wanted to wear the poppy as mark of respect because of the circumstances. Odds on there being a major sporting occasion 100 years after the first world war on the 11th of November involving Scotland and England were pretty slim. So what I'm saying is that last year it was up to the individual but every one should have wanted to wear it. Fair enough. When you said ‘back to normal now and it should be up to the individual’ it sounded like you meant it shouldn’t have been last year. I think it more or less will be. I can’t see the SFA forcing someone to wear one if anyone objects. No doubt some idiots will complain about anyone who opts out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 19 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: That's right Captain Mainwaring because you are so much better than the rest of us nasty people. Eh ? Lol, nobody said anything about being better than anybody. I told you MY personal reasons for wearing a poppy. You struggle with other people having views other than your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Never mind poppies, has anyone had their tickets delivered yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 5:40 PM, Flure said: Look at the vitriol heaped on that Irish guy that plays in England that won't wear a poppy. Yep. Disgusting the crap McLean has to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There isn't a controversy about poppies here. Remembering sacrifice isn't an issue. Since Scotland was one of 2 countries credited with liberating Holland in WW II I feel that they would be appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 I see Celtc chose not to have poppies on the strips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 59 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: I see Celtc chose not to have poppies on the strips Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) Did Celtc take it upon themselves to enforce all of their players not to wear one or did they follow Hibs and let each player decide themselves? Asking for a friend Edited November 4, 2017 by DoonTheSlope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 7 hours ago, DoonTheSlope said: I see Celtc chose not to have poppies on the strips Good, i see ibrox was its usual ott tacky pish display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kirk said: Good, i see ibrox was its usual ott tacky pish display It’s not really my thing either but does it do any harm? Maybe we should just let each club do as it sees fit without judging them? If Celtic/Hibs or whoever don’t want to mark Rememberance Day then that’s fine. If Rangers do then fair enough. Not sure why people are making a big deal about it either way to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: It’s not really my thing either but does it do any harm? Maybe we should just let each club do as it sees fit without judging them? If Celtic/Hibs or whoever don’t want to mark Rememberance Day then that’s fine. If Rangers do then fair enough. Not sure why people are making a big deal about it either way to be honest. I tend to agree tbh, just not a fan of the ott stuff. As has been discussed its used for point scoring etc personally i think a minutes silence would suffice, no poppys on tops etc and its next week anyway!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kirk said: I tend to agree tbh, just not a fan of the ott stuff. As has been discussed its used for point scoring etc personally i think a minutes silence would suffice, no poppys on tops etc and its next week anyway!!! Unless you’re a Rangers fan (doesn’t sound like you are) then you shouldn’t really have an issue with that they do for it, whether it’s OTT in your opinion or not. There’s no top flight football next week due to the international break and even if there was, most teams at home this week would be away next week so this week would be there only chance to do anything to mark it at their own ground . It just baffles me that people (I don’t necessarily mean you) seem to have strong opinions about stuff that has absolutely no effect on them whatsoever. I couldn’t care less either way (even with Scotland) if a team wears a poppy or not. It’s meaningless really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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