Alibi Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Alibi said: Essential that the SNP do not vote for the brexit proposal. It is a bad deal, and the fact that turning it down might lead to a no deal brexit is irrelevant. There are other potions, the sensible one of which is to cancel brexit altogether. Ironically that could impede indy, but accepting a clearly bad deal is just plain daft. That was meant to be "options", but "potions" works almost as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Various views on the #PoliticalDeclaration from Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) Ross Thomson: "The political declaration commits UK to "establish a new fisheries agreement on, inter allia, access to waters and quota shares". This means sovereignty over our waters sacrificed for a trade deal. That is unacceptable. We must be a normal Independent coastal state like Norway." Edited November 22, 2018 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 8 hours ago, kumnio said: Looks like the fisherman have been screwed over. Absolutely fantastic in my opinion. 6 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Agreed Bertie Armstrong lying his tits off to save face though Those insular, narrow mined Tory voting fishermen can all sook my hairy boaby. I hope they get screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Those insular, narrow mined Tory voting fishermen can all sook my hairy boaby. I hope they get screwed. Yes but will it make a difference to how they perceive the union and who they will vote for in future? Somehow I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, kumnio said: He is this country's representative on the board that runs the UK He represents nothing but himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 http://indyref2.scot/bbc-scotland-moves-to-protect-scottish-tories-as-mays-fishing-betrayal-is-revealed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Wheres that cunt Alan? Cant wait to read his latest SNP bad story while the country burns from toxic Tory fumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 7:34 AM, phart said: sitting at 3:15am stewing enough to actually write that. Alex Neil is a sad cunt. Just because he was Hamilton boss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, exile said: http://indyref2.scot/bbc-scotland-moves-to-protect-scottish-tories-as-mays-fishing-betrayal-is-revealed The position is so entrenched against anything sturgeon, against anything SNP They have forgotten who they represent, both politicians and broadcasters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Bino's said: The position is so entrenched against anything sturgeon, against anything SNP They have forgotten who they represent, both politicians and broadcasters To be honest Sturgeon has hardened manys stance against the snp, especially the pro brexit mob, that why i have said all along that she should be less visable on the subject, its tough i know however its votes that count and somtimes to get what you want you have to do things you dont want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 10 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: Those insular, narrow mined Tory voting fishermen can all sook my hairy boaby. I hope they get screwed. you're showing a huge level of ignorance here, not all fishermen are tory voters and I'm not sure why you are taking satisfaction in scottish industry getting fucked again by London. If anything this will help with the independence movement as it may make that industry wake up and realise the only way it can properly flourish is for Scotland to become an independent nation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 The Tory MPs only care about a small subset of fishermen, namely their pals who are all Bertie Armstrong's Tory chums. The whole fishing issue is fairly trivial but has been blown up out of all proportion to distracr from other more important matters. BBC Scotland has assisted in this process, quite deliberately. Their political coverage has become far worse, with the bias (whether institutional or individual, who knows?) becoming far more blatant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 49 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: you're showing a huge level of ignorance here, not all fishermen are tory voters and I'm not sure why you are taking satisfaction in scottish industry getting fucked again by London. If anything this will help with the independence movement as it may make that industry wake up and realise the only way it can properly flourish is for Scotland to become an independent nation Indeed. Tribunal nature of politics, laughing at a group of people getting fucked because they voted a different way to you. Just wait until Scotland votes yes and people are calling for “a people’s vote” to overturn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 58 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: you're showing a huge level of ignorance here, not all fishermen are tory voters and I'm not sure why you are taking satisfaction in scottish industry getting fucked again by London. If anything this will help with the independence movement as it may make that industry wake up and realise the only way it can properly flourish is for Scotland to become an independent nation 7 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Indeed. Tribunal nature of politics, laughing at a group of people getting fucked because they voted a different way to you. Just wait until Scotland votes yes and people are calling for “a people’s vote” to overturn it. Clearly you are both ignorant of what's gone on during the brexit vote and since They have allowed themselves to be used by the Tories and the Unionist media as a representation of Scotland And there is no satisfaction - only anger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Clearly you are both ignorant of what's gone on during the brexit vote and since They have allowed themselves to be used by the Tories and the Unionist media as a representation of Scotland And there is no satisfaction - only anger Ignorant? away and fuck min. I come from a fishing town and I have family in the industry. You are talking pish which is a common theme from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Ignorant? away and fuck min. I come from a fishing town and I have family in the industry. You are talking pish which is a common theme from you It was sarcasm ya rocket as obviously every cunt knows what's been going on It's more than just "people voting differently" But i'm sure you know that Einstein Edited November 23, 2018 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: It was sarcasm ya rocket as obviously every cunt knows what's been going on It's more than just "people voting differently" But i'm sure you know that here's a tip, sarcasm does't come through on posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 59 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Clearly you are both ignorant of what's gone on during the brexit vote and since They have allowed themselves to be used by the Tories and the Unionist media as a representation of Scotland And there is no satisfaction - only anger No satisfaction? Maybe not on your part but I’ve seen it in plenty of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: here's a tip, sarcasm does't come through on posts aye it does.. 😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Like I said it is my experience that some people aren't for turning as far as voting preferences are concerned. Unionists will always be unionists no matter how Westminster governs them. On the other side of the coin you will also have your die-hard independence backers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I enjoyed seeing the fishermen get screwed, I will admit it. I don’t care if they are tories or not, they are self interested wankers who are more interested in lining their pockets through greed and ignorance. They actually thought that they would be looked after, and get exactly what they wanted, it was obvious from day one that it would never happen. The poor wee lemmings still jump off the cliff thinking that their special relationship will save them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, kumnio said: I enjoyed seeing the fishermen get screwed, I will admit it. I don’t care if they are tories or not, they are self interested wankers who are more interested in lining their pockets through greed and ignorance. They actually thought that they would be looked after, and get exactly what they wanted, it was obvious from day one that it would never happen. The poor wee lemmings still jump off the cliff thinking that their special relationship will save them. Also, I suppose, another way to look at it is who signed them into the EU deal they so detest? Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 The thing I've never understood about the fishermen is that I would have thought overall, being in the EU as part of Scotland rather than the UK would likely be more beneficial to them than any arrangement. They'd have all the access to markets for their produce and as far as Scotland would be concerned, fishing is more important to the Scottish economy than the UK economy so you would expect that they would be represented by people who would be more likely to look after their interests. There's nearly 50 years of history of the UK government not looking out for the interests of the fishing industry, I'm surprised people are so shocked now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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