jcs Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 And so it begins ed milliband has said he is opposed to all the promises made before the indyref until he considers all the options as most yes voters knew would happen hang your head in shame all no voters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 What a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Extreme0 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Where did this come from exatcly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 BBCNews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's on he tv now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 He cant even speak, but he duped a nation. Some going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Found this: Robin BrantPolitical Correspondent, BBC News Miliband: Debate neededPosted at 15:29 Ed Miliband signals that he will not sign up to the prime minister's plan to give more power to the Scottish Parliament at the same time as trying to agree new powers for English MPs. While accepting the need for reforms, the Labour leader says that he wants a process of debate to begin before the general election but - crucially - he calls for a constitutional convention to finalise reform to happen later, in the autumn of 2015. David Cameron had earlier said changes to address the so-called English question - to allow English MPs the same powers over England-only legislation that the devolved parliament and assemblies will have in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast - "must take place in tandem with, and at the same pace as, the settlement for Scotland" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-29130277 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthTam Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just hours after the most electrifying political time in my life and Westminster illustrate why people were fed up with politics before the independence referendum. Hope Labour get a kicking in next years GE for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The best we can do in the next election is to vote against Labour. 20+ SNP (Westminster) seats would send a huge message to Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Salmond saying he asked Cameron about the timetable for more powers. Cameron's response? "It's a meaningless process", according to James Cook Well done No voters, big pat on the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Salmond saying he asked Cameron about the timetable for more powers. Cameron's response? "It's a meaningless process", according to James Cook Well done No voters, big pat on the back Cant do anything but laugh, well done Scotland you bought it hook line and sinker. Absolute mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 mugs and cowards who were desperate to believe anything that Westminster told them. Where's Gordon Brown with his timetable now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) If this is true then Miliband is an utter disgrace and the Labour party should be hanging its head in utter shame for tis betrayal of its own people. The media who enthusiastically trumpeted Brown's message so uncritically should hang their heads in shame too. And anyone who changed their minds because of The Vow, do you have anything to say for yourself? Edited September 19, 2014 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 mugs and cowards who were desperate to believe anything that Westminster told them. Where's Gordon Brown with his timetable now ? I just texted my mate similar, we wont see Darling or Brown on TV again for months. Im not surprised at Miliband, Cameron etc, but I am disgusted with Scots, did they really expect anything else. Nothing like letting yourself and your country get raped. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 One of our unbiased media outlets should chase up Brown for his thoughts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Something tells me a lot of the no voters don't give a crap about promises if they are broken. They get to keep their ideal little utopia where Scotland is ruled by incompetent bastards at Westminster. Edited September 19, 2014 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Anyone else not notice how dark Scotland is today? No smiling, crowing or parties in the street. It's basically like a funeral - you see a Yes flag/badge on a person and give a smile without opening your mouth, but deep down you are absolutely gutted and hurting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 That'll be Lord Brown and Lord Darling secure then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis_trap Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Never voting Labour again....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29281819 Edited September 19, 2014 by Haggis_trap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Gordon Brown, what a piece of work! They've already talked of him as a Shakespearean tragic figure, for his Downing Street career. Who'd have thunk he'd have another tragic role to play, delivering a jittery Scotland into the hands of Westminster - the reneging buffoon Miliband - and saving David Cameron's career. Arise Lord Brown you have done your work Edited September 19, 2014 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hope you shitebags that voted no are proud of yourselves , yer a disgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 But back to the practicalities. As I understand it, the Tories would wish to engineer a new devolutionary arrangement that would make it difficult for Scots MPs to influence tax legislation for England. This would make it more difficult for a Labour government to get its tax agenda through the House of Commons, if it would have needed Scots MPs to get a majority. But how many Labour MPs Scotland is willing to send to Westminster, becomes the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fierypict Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Anyone else not notice how dark Scotland is today? No smiling, crowing or parties in the street. It's basically like a funeral - you see a Yes flag/badge on a person and give a smile without opening your mouth, but deep down you are absolutely gutted and hurting. Ye ken, I was greeting when I read that, exactly how I feel and I was doing the same ! Like Kumnio said, everyone who voted no has just let themselves and their country be raped!!!! I'm gutted but, I'm glad to say I'm very proud of those who did vote YES and like myself done their own wee bit of campaigning for the cause! I'm also glad to say I'm angry and we all need to find ways of fuelling that anger into something positive for future change! Dinnae gie up, as an auld wummin in Wardieburn said to me yesterday, "we might lose the battle, the war's still to be won!!!!" Edited September 19, 2014 by fierypict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The momentum is too greatand over 1.6 million votes say that the yes vote is too vast a number to be swept under the carpet for another referendum in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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