scoobydoo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) ^^ off with that sensible shite Edited October 11, 2015 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The fact that they didn't give Lagerback the job when he was practically on his knees begging for it alone should've meant every single member of the SFA board should've been binned. That said, now we have Strachan we must keep hold of him. At least the SFA would appear to be getting that bit right at least in offering him a new contract if that is true. The SFA don't give a shite about the Scotland team, the players, the fans or anyone else but themselves. As long as they get their wee all expenses paid trips around the world at our expense they never will either. Far easier to accept the decline in our game and live (the high life) with it than to actually get off their collective fat lazy arses and do something about it. We need sensible and intelligent former players and managers who actually understand and know more than all about the game running the show. Appointing Gordon Smith was a step in the right direction and it only didn't work out because a. he was a yes man planted there by the men who took comfort in knowing he would join them rather than rock the boat of shake up what needed shaking up and b. he is a idiot. The whole SFA board needs to be made up of people who have achieved something in the game and is respected. We need a Scottish football legend running Scottish football. Look what the Germans have done with Beckenbauer at the helm. He's pissed a lot of people off and he took a lot of the old fogies out of their comfortable existence and ripped it all up. Now Germany is the model for both club and international football and it's no coincidence that they've done this with the same manager in place now since 2006. How many managers have we been through in that time? When our managers do well they off. Why is that? We can't even sack the shite ones properly without the likes of Levein taking us to the cleaners. Scottish football is nowhere near as bad as it's made out, yet the SPFL chairman had said our game wasn't worth much. It's the running of the game in our country that is a joke not the Scottish game itself. With decent SFA running things our game has the support and the capacity to do very well. It's often said that only an idiot would keep doing the same things and expect the outcome to be different each time but this is exactly the SFA way of doing things. Nothing will change until everything changes. But turkeys won't vote for Christmas and so we can look forward to many more years in the wilderness until we rid ourselves of the clowns trying to run our game. They only thing they are running properly is our game into the ground. x 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 You have a very short memory my friend. Think back to how abject our performances were before Strachan took over. It took him a wee while to have an impact but from Zagreb onwards his system is a vast improvement on Levein. Strachan created an expectation that had gone completely and sadly that expectation hasn't been met. I'll admit the performances in the second half of the campaign didn't build on the momentum of the first - but I'd say he's plateaued after a decent start, rather than stagnated or stayed still. The next competitive game after today is not till September. Practically an entire football season. Give Strachan that time to reflect on this campaign and prepare and improve for the next. And don't expect him to look or sound happy when talking to the press, as a manager he hates the press. Admit am knocking on and been following Scotland since late 60,s so excuse my fading memory It much depends on how you measure improvement.We have not qualified yet again so in that respect there's been no improvement.Football wise at times it's been better than what we have been used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Interesting re the SFA board being mentioned, who is it on it currently? How long have they been on it etc(genuinely) Wouldn't mind finding out more about these folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Interesting re the SFA board being mentioned, who is it on it currently? How long have they been on it etc(genuinely) Wouldn't mind finding out more about these folk The main Board consists of seven members: the Office Bearers (Stewart Regan, Chief Executive; Alan McRae, President; and Rod Petrie, Second Vice-President), plus Peter Lawell (SPL), Gary Hughes, Ralph Topping (SPL), Tom Johnston (Junior FA) and Barrie Jackson, the Scottish FA’s first-ever independent non-executive director. Professional Game Board: Chairman: Rod Petrie (Scottish FA) Members: Alan McRae (Scottish FA), Stewart Regan (Scottish FA), Ralph Topping (SPFL), Peter Lawell (SPFL), Neil Doncaster (SPFL), Duncan Fraser (SPFL), Mike Mulraney (SPFL), Sandy Stables (SHFL) and Andrew Waddell (SLFL). Non-Professional Game Board: Chairman: Alan McRae (Scottish FA) Members: Rod Petrie (Scottish FA), Stewart Regan (Scottish FA), Thomas McKeown (Scottish Amateur FA), Tom Johnston (Scottish Junior FA), John Gold (Scottish Schools' FA), John Campbell (Scottish Welfare FA), Fiona Cardwell (Scottish Women's Football), David Little (Scottish Youth FA), Tom Brown (East of Scotland Football League), Colin Holden (South of Scotland Football League) how much in wages ? Everyone a failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) That's a lot of folk. Too many cooks spring to mind immediately... Wonder how Henry mccleishs "review" is getting on as well. Bet that turns out to be a load of bollocks Edited October 11, 2015 by JECK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The main Board consists of seven members: the Office Bearers (Stewart Regan, Chief Executive; Alan McRae, President; and Rod Petrie, Second Vice-President), plus Peter Lawell (SPL), Gary Hughes, Ralph Topping (SPL), Tom Johnston (Junior FA) and Barrie Jackson, the Scottish FAs first-ever independent non-executive director. Professional Game Board: Chairman: Rod Petrie (Scottish FA) Members: Alan McRae (Scottish FA), Stewart Regan (Scottish FA), Ralph Topping (SPFL), Peter Lawell (SPFL), Neil Doncaster (SPFL), Duncan Fraser (SPFL), Mike Mulraney (SPFL), Sandy Stables (SHFL) and Andrew Waddell (SLFL). Non-Professional Game Board: Chairman: Alan McRae (Scottish FA) Members: Rod Petrie (Scottish FA), Stewart Regan (Scottish FA), Thomas McKeown (Scottish Amateur FA), Tom Johnston (Scottish Junior FA), John Gold (Scottish Schools' FA), John Campbell (Scottish Welfare FA), Fiona Cardwell (Scottish Women's Football), David Little (Scottish Youth FA), Tom Brown (East of Scotland Football League), Colin Holden (South of Scotland Football League) how much in wages ? Everyone a failure Everyone wants rid of them but how? Government intervention or mass protest are surely the only options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The main Board consists of seven members: the Office Bearers (Stewart Regan, Chief Executive; Alan McRae, President; and Rod Petrie, Second Vice-President), plus Peter Lawell (SPL), Gary Hughes, Ralph Topping (SPL), Tom Johnston (Junior FA) and Barrie Jackson, the Scottish FA’s first-ever independent non-executive director. Professional Game Board: Chairman: Rod Petrie (Scottish FA) Members: Alan McRae (Scottish FA), Stewart Regan (Scottish FA), Ralph Topping (SPFL), Peter Lawell (SPFL), Neil Doncaster (SPFL), Duncan Fraser (SPFL), Mike Mulraney (SPFL), Sandy Stables (SHFL) and Andrew Waddell (SLFL). Non-Professional Game Board: Chairman: Alan McRae (Scottish FA) Members: Rod Petrie (Scottish FA), Stewart Regan (Scottish FA), Thomas McKeown (Scottish Amateur FA), Tom Johnston (Scottish Junior FA), John Gold (Scottish Schools' FA), John Campbell (Scottish Welfare FA), Fiona Cardwell (Scottish Women's Football), David Little (Scottish Youth FA), Tom Brown (East of Scotland Football League), Colin Holden (South of Scotland Football League) how much in wages ? Everyone a failure Anybody wondering why we're not qualifying for major tournaments these days just needs to read the above post. All your answers are there. I'm convinced we have improved under straphangers (despite our finishing place in the group suggesting otherwise) as our performances are better, expectations are higher as a result. Purely on a match by match basis I thought we were desperately unlucky not to take a point from Dortmund and to only get one from the Poland game in Thursday. I also thought we were superb in Poland and either team could've won a tremendous match. Although there was little tangible reward in terms of points, it was night and day compared with games under Levein (possibly excepting the Spain match at hampden). Compare with the Levein euro campaign, against our main rivals particularly away, we were honking in Spain, Czech Republic and Lithuania. Similar return points wise but performances were miles better this time around. However, this improvement is only the first step, but to me it is in spite of the SFA board not because of it. If we want to take the next step and turn those better performances into actual points we need the game run by football people who know what it takes and what it means to play at international level. The thought of Strachan, or indeed any other Scotland manager, having to "report into" these clowns is quite mind blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The fact that they didn't give Lagerback the job when he was practically on his knees begging for it alone should've meant every single member of the SFA board should've been binned. That said, now we have Strachan we must keep hold of him. At least the SFA would appear to be getting that bit right at least in offering him a new contract if that is true. The SFA don't give a shite about the Scotland team, the players, the fans or anyone else but themselves. As long as they get their wee all expenses paid trips around the world at our expense they never will either. Far easier to accept the decline in our game and live (the high life) with it than to actually get off their collective fat lazy arses and do something about it. We need sensible and intelligent former players and managers who actually understand and know more than all about the game running the show. Appointing Gordon Smith was a step in the right direction and it only didn't work out because a. he was a yes man planted there by the men who took comfort in knowing he would join them rather than rock the boat of shake up what needed shaking up and b. he is a idiot. The whole SFA board needs to be made up of people who have achieved something in the game and is respected. We need a Scottish football legend running Scottish football. Look what the Germans have done with Beckenbauer at the helm. He's pissed a lot of people off and he took a lot of the old fogies out of their comfortable existence and ripped it all up. Now Germany is the model for both club and international football and it's no coincidence that they've done this with the same manager in place now since 2006. How many managers have we been through in that time? When our managers do well they off. Why is that? We can't even sack the shite ones properly without the likes of Levein taking us to the cleaners. Scottish football is nowhere near as bad as it's made out, yet the SPFL chairman had said our game wasn't worth much. It's the running of the game in our country that is a joke not the Scottish game itself. With decent SFA running things our game has the support and the capacity to do very well. It's often said that only an idiot would keep doing the same things and expect the outcome to be different each time but this is exactly the SFA way of doing things. Nothing will change until everything changes. But turkeys won't vote for Christmas and so we can look forward to many more years in the wilderness until we rid ourselves of the clowns trying to run our game. They only thing they are running properly is our game into the ground Excellent post. I don't know how the Germans managed to shake up their FA and put a footballing man in charge of their football organisation. (that is some real Blue sky thinking right there ) Our lot seem to be unaccountable to anyone in the way they are running ruining our game. We don't even have any major sponsors to take them to task, so they just batter on, fleecing the fans and producing bullshit slogans about us "being the roar" and other such nonsense. So how do we get them to listen to us? Our illustrious media seem incapable of getting through to them that they are just a conduit for public opinion, and WE are the ones paying their wages. It is so bloody frustrating that they obviously know that the majority of us have no confidence in them at all, it is as if they are sitting back laughing and sticking two fingers up at us. Next month will be subscription renewal time if I am not mistaken? What do we reckon? £70 membership (Guarantee your Auld Enemy ticket), with North stand tickets at about £50 a pop for each game? Sign up now, you mugs, we've got conventions to attend in Qatar............ Ta very much, SFA xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Wtf!?petrie is on the board at the SFA? No wonder we are ####ed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Tin hat on Maybe the best thing that could happen is not winning in Gibraltar Takes away the deflection of Strachan's position being prime importance and heaps pressure back onto the SFA and the state of the Scottish game ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Has the SNP government not got some input here, like funding centres or a plan to encourage youngsters? could be a huge vote winner for them surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Excellent post. I don't know how the Germans managed to shake up their FA and put a footballing man in charge of their football organisation. (that is some real Blue sky thinking right there ) Our lot seem to be unaccountable to anyone in the way they are running ruining our game. We don't even have any major sponsors to take them to task, so they just batter on, fleecing the fans and producing bullshit slogans about us "being the roar" and other such nonsense. So how do we get them to listen to us? Our illustrious media seem incapable of getting through to them that they are just a conduit for public opinion, and WE are the ones paying their wages. It is so bloody frustrating that they obviously know that the majority of us have no confidence in them at all, it is as if they are sitting back laughing and sticking two fingers up at us. Next month will be subscription renewal time if I am not mistaken? What do we reckon? £70 membership (Guarantee your Auld Enemy ticket), with North stand tickets at about £50 a pop for each game? Sign up now, you mugs, we've got conventions to attend in Qatar............ Ta very much, SFA xx Equally excellent post ? Us Tain lads should be running the game ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) The fact that they didn't give Lagerback the job when he was practically on his knees begging for it alone should've meant every single member of the SFA board should've been binned. That said, now we have Strachan we must keep hold of him. At least the SFA would appear to be getting that bit right at least in offering him a new contract if that is true. The SFA don't give a shite about the Scotland team, the players, the fans or anyone else but themselves. As long as they get their wee all expenses paid trips around the world at our expense they never will either. Far easier to accept the decline in our game and live (the high life) with it than to actually get off their collective fat lazy arses and do something about it. We need sensible and intelligent former players and managers who actually understand and know more than all about the game running the show. Appointing Gordon Smith was a step in the right direction and it only didn't work out because a. he was a yes man planted there by the men who took comfort in knowing he would join them rather than rock the boat of shake up what needed shaking up and b. he is a idiot. The whole SFA board needs to be made up of people who have achieved something in the game and is respected. We need a Scottish football legend running Scottish football. Look what the Germans have done with Beckenbauer at the helm. He's pissed a lot of people off and he took a lot of the old fogies out of their comfortable existence and ripped it all up. Now Germany is the model for both club and international football and it's no coincidence that they've done this with the same manager in place now since 2006. How many managers have we been through in that time? When our managers do well they off. Why is that? We can't even sack the shite ones properly without the likes of Levein taking us to the cleaners. Scottish football is nowhere near as bad as it's made out, yet the SPFL chairman had said our game wasn't worth much. It's the running of the game in our country that is a joke not the Scottish game itself. With decent SFA running things our game has the support and the capacity to do very well. It's often said that only an idiot would keep doing the same things and expect the outcome to be different each time but this is exactly the SFA way of doing things. Nothing will change until everything changes. But turkeys won't vote for Christmas and so we can look forward to many more years in the wilderness until we rid ourselves of the clowns trying to run our game. They only thing they are running properly is our game into the ground. Absolutely spot on fella. And it is exactly why the government SHOULD step in Edited October 11, 2015 by Bzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Absolutely spot on fella. Sad thing is that my argument would've been equally valid ten years ago and more. The last few years of failure would've been worth it if it had resulted in us rebuilding a team that was qualifying regularly. But it hasn't and we're no further forward. That is harder to take than any single failed campaign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Has the SNP government not got some input here, like funding centres or a plan to encourage youngsters? could be a huge vote winner for them surely. I think everyone forgets (Alan doesnt he knows) that every penny Scotland's economy makes goes to Westminster and we then get some pocket money to run things I sincerely doubt the Scottish Government could redirect some of that to football infrastructure over the NHS for example When Gideon pumped £50 million into the English FA coffers for grassroots development im not even sure we got £5 million as part of Barnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Results as they stand mean Albania have automatically qualified. That's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Exactly. Also fowk were FAR too quick to forget Jack McConnell making damn sure we didn't get to host the Euros. The knock on effect from the investment would have been huge. Yet again Scotland getting shafted by self serving unionist shitebags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Anyone else looking forward to the wc qualifiers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Anyone else looking forward to the wc qualifiers? Yes I genuinely am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Results as they stand mean Albania have automatically qualified. That's insane. there is going to be now a very long list of countries that have qualified for something more recently than us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 If the Scottish government intervened in the operations of the SFA FIFA would ban the team from international competitions. And that is not likely to be a vote winner for the SNP. No, it is down to the Scotland fans to clean their own house because know this the SFA will NEVER do it themselves. Blah blah blah we need this we need that... same old chat every time this happens but when anyone actually suggests you do something tangible like cut off the money to the SFA until every one of these corrupt whankers steps down and is replaced by reputable replacements you get these uber fans on here shouting them down and saying "you must support the team no matter what"... well you are not supporting the team you are putting money into the SFA. The SFA are at present a cancer in our game and they survive and grow on your money. You could have them all sacked in 12 months if you decided to do it. That is the power of the fans but divide and rule works on this level just the same as it does on all others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Excellent post. I don't know how the Germans managed to shake up their FA and put a footballing man in charge of their football organisation. (that is some real Blue sky thinking right there ) Our lot seem to be unaccountable to anyone in the way they are running ruining our game. We don't even have any major sponsors to take them to task, so they just batter on, fleecing the fans and producing bullshit slogans about us "being the roar" and other such nonsense. So how do we get them to listen to us? Our illustrious media seem incapable of getting through to them that they are just a conduit for public opinion, and WE are the ones paying their wages. It is so bloody frustrating that they obviously know that the majority of us have no confidence in them at all, it is as if they are sitting back laughing and sticking two fingers up at us. Next month will be subscription renewal time if I am not mistaken? What do we reckon? £70 membership (Guarantee your Auld Enemy ticket), with North stand tickets at about £50 a pop for each game? Sign up now, you mugs, we've got conventions to attend in Qatar............ Ta very much, SFA xx In my years observing their recent behaviour (last 10 years) my strong impression is the SFA have no interest in making Scottish football a success. It is like they have been infiltrated by people with a brief to drive the national game into the ground. Barry Hearn recently pointed it out. It is glaring how bad they are. They all need ousted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 It's self-preservation from incompetent people in the SFA. They way it has always been. I don't think you can say that they deliberately want us to fail - as there would most definitely be more money for them to be had if we succeeded. They are simply incompetent and not the right people for the job of moving us forward for improvement. As for those debating as to whether the Scottish Government can/should get involved. They can only do so much as Fifa dictates that governments can't interfere with a FA. What they can do is work to improve investment, facilities and the general health of our society - as well the support offered in schools. For that, it all comes down to a question of priorities with public spending. Nations such as Australia are those that are ponted to as heavily investing in sport. I'm sure there are many other examples much closer to home. We're caught in a crap situation of lack of investment, lack of facilities, a demotivated and unhealthy population and to top it all off - we have a bunch of circus clowns at the top of our FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 So why is it only OUR administrators that are self-serving? Are all other countries blessed with altruistic philanthropists? Why is it only US who have a defeatist mentality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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