Langtonian Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 when did the Ritchie suddenly become our messiah? if Ritchie or Forrest is the best we have its sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munro7 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Ritchie, .....but he's never been bad, Yes he has, he was utterly dreadful in every cap with the exception of his cameo against Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 forrest wouldnt of troubled him at all His being there might have confused him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Ritchie, I can't understand why anyone supports Forrest as a first pick. He's been terrible consistently for Scotland, and on the celtic games I've seen (granted few) been just as terrible. Like really bad. Like efe ambrose bad. Richie however, is in immense club form. Scoring an amazing goal for Bournemouth immediatly after our terrible defeat to Georgia, making me wonder if why that potential goal was on the bench. (hindsight is awesome...) Granted he's never been a stand out player when playing for Scotland, but he's never been bad, and his corner kicks are a class above Maloney's. The only reason I can see for even thinking Forrest is worth comparing to Richie is 1. Strachan's love affair with Forrest. 2. Anglophobia. Richie Screamer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQmZ05x9n6o I think if Strachan has picked Ritchie in the squad then he has gotten over any "anglophobia"! Funny though. Forrest has been murder but i must admit the past 3 or 4 games (edit - for Celtic) he has improved quite a bit - still not enough to be a starter, but at least enough to offer hope there is some talent hiding in there somewhere. Forrest for me. Edited October 6, 2015 by Paulo2576 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@neaver82 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 If you cant see that Matt Ritchie is a quality player we are lucky to have and James Forrest is utter dugs keech then its time you gave up watching football. It's not for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@neaver82 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 One is complete rubbish and the other is English, so neither for me. Every country in the world uses the granny rule, even the "big" nations. Spain - (Costa born in Brazil), England - ( Barnes, Sterling born in Jamaica), France, (Desailly born in Ghana), Germany - (Podolski and Klose both born in Poland) etc etc and thats just a handful off the top of the head so build yourself a bridge and get over the English born sh ite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I think Ritchie has got slowly better for us each time he plays. His first game he looked like a scared wee kid playing with the big boys. The (very) odd wee flash of something but that was about it. His next game he seemed a wee bit more settled but still nervey. I think he is just the type who has suddenly come from minor fame with born mouth to suddenly an international audience watching him. (Or he would feel that were all watching him). I honestly think given a bit more time he could be a great player for us especially if he can bring his club scoring form to his international game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I've probably never seen ritchie playing but i have forrest so am picking ritchie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Ritchie potentially offers something at this level. Forrest doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Forrest never. Ritchie sometimes. But someone else please. And I have no problem over Ritchie's qualifications .not even the granny rule...its his dad. Same as Rod Stewart and many others. If u had 2 Scottish parents and 4 Scottish grandparents and happen to get born on holiday in Spain, would that make u Spanish? No, its the blood that counts. Ritchie has Scottish blood, good luck to him. And increasingly we are in a world of very mixed nationalities so everyone should learn to live with it m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 And im more concerned about centre forward. Surely not Fletcher again ? He can play against Gibraltar as they're the only team he knows how to score against but please someone else for the Poland game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 And im more concerned about centre forward. Surely not Fletcher again ? He can play against Gibraltar as they're the only team he knows how to score against but please someone else for the Poland game. Id play lewandowski, if he was scottish, hes not though so ill go for Rhodes. We all know itll be fletch though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Forever Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Ritchie - 3 caps, in 2 of which he got hooked at half time (how can you justify picking him in a key game based on that!) or Forrest - who is just hopeless. Some choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_Wolf Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Ritchie - 3 caps, in 2 of which he got hooked at half time (how can you justify picking him in a key game based on that!) or Forrest - who is just hopeless. Some choice. Nice rewriting of history... Assist vs N. Ireland, where his delivery was the difference in a tight game Scored the winning goal vs. Qatar when Scotland was playing poor Subbed vs Gibraltar to change the system, from 3-5-2 to 4-4-2. Personally I would have changed Maloney on open play performance, but Maloney was scoring. Granted I wasn't pleased with his performance vs Ireland away, but he wasn't the worst performer, and wasn't targeted in the aftermath as the cause of that performance. He's just the guy that's easy to swap out with other players. Played well when he came on vs germany. Still think some fans have less patience with Richie compared with Forrest ,whose been given a so many chances, for one reason... Edited October 7, 2015 by Tartan_Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Forever Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Nice rewriting of history... Assist vs N. Ireland, where his delivery was the difference in a tight game Scored the winning goal vs. Qatar when Scotland was playing poor Subbed vs Gibraltar to change the system, from 3-5-2 to 4-4-2. Personally I would have changed Maloney on open play performance, but Maloney was scoring. Granted I wasn't pleased with his performance vs Ireland away, but he wasn't the worst performer, and wasn't targeted in the aftermath as the cause of that performance. He's just the guy that's easy to swap out with other players. Played well when he came on vs germany. Still think some fans have less patience with Richie compared with Forrest ,whose been given a so many chances, for one reason... I should have said in competitive games. Too risky for tomorrow. Friendlies v lesser teams are a walk in the park compared to tomorrow night. I'd probably put him ahead of Forrest though Edited October 7, 2015 by Diamonds Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I should have said in competitive games. Too risky for tomorrow. Friendlies v lesser teams are a walk in the park compared to tomorrow night. I'd probably put him ahead of Forrest though With Anya out it's certainly going to be one of them that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestersktid Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Ritchie if I had to choose. Would like to have seen Johnny Russell get a chance, pace to burn, decent delivery and has a good goal return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Ritchie if I had to choose. Would like to have seen Johnny Russell get a chance, pace to burn, decent delivery and has a good goal return. Good shout but he is best playing through the middle so would mean a bit of a mix around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Was there an option for both?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 looks like Strachan is playing both. Marshall; Hutton, Martin, Hanley, Whittaker; Brown, D.Fletcher, Forrest, Ritchie, Naismith; S.Fletcher according to STVsport.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Can I just say I though Forrest had his best game for us tonight. He seemed to be looking up more and looking for passes rather than what he would do before of head down and just run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamDav1982 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Forrest played well but he will never win with some people. Tonight he beat two men on the right cut in and played ball out wide to Ritchie....at which some people on here moaned about him 'breaking up an attack' through a slightly under hit pass. He cant win. Go and read the match report and see Forrest and Ritchies names at the heart of anything Scotland did well. Forrest was easily one of Scotlands better players tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) His best game for us by far. Although he was rubbish previously. Edited October 8, 2015 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Forrest had a good game tonight, if he can continue to play like that then I'd be fine with him playing. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Ritchie gives the ball away far too much at this level to be classed as a good player. However, I do think he could end up being an important and effective player for us if he continues to improve in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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