macy37 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I think England will get maximum points from the campaign. 2nd place is there for the taking for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I think England will get maximum points from the campaign. 2nd place is there for the taking for us. No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 No chance. Every chance. Who will take points off them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 We need to remember Slovakia are a Pot2 team for a reason and recent results prove exactly why. They will be more than capable of taking points of everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Every chance. Who will take points off them? Slovakia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 England should win the group but theres defitnitly a draw or 2 to be had out of them. Had it not been for 2 Wilshere wonder strikes they wouldnt have beaten Slovenia a few weeks back and he rarely scores. You never know anything could happen when we play them. Strachan sounds like he has learnt massively from the 3-1 defeat in November ie about how England closed us down ridiculously well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Does 2nd get an automatic qualification or a play off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Does 2nd get an automatic qualification or a play off? Play-off - only the top eight best runners-up though as the ninth best misses out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Ok cheers bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you look at England's qualifying groups over the last few years, they generally have one of two games where they screw up. They do enough to qualify but it's usually not as comfortable as they would like. Their current group is an exception as it's just about as easy a group as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 For us, I think it's a bit like the last World Cup group - loads of middling teams (including us and them) at roughly the same level. We could win any game. We could lose any game. Surprised so many see England as stick-on favourites to walk it. Generally, only England pundits think they're that good (they'll be thinking it's just another easy group like they always get). My worry is that it's like your club drawing your biggest local rivals in the cup; no feeling as good as knocking them out, no feeling as gutting as being knocked out by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 For us, I think it's a bit like the last World Cup group - loads of middling teams (including us and them) at roughly the same level. We could win any game. We could lose any game. Surprised so many see England as stick-on favourites to walk it. Generally, only England pundits think they're that good (they'll be thinking it's just another easy group like they always get). My worry is that it's like your club drawing your biggest local rivals in the cup; no feeling as good as knocking them out, no feeling as gutting as being knocked out by them. They are in a similar group this time (Slovenia and Lithuania in it) and six games played and six games won. Fair to see why English people and others would think they'll walk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 We were in the same group as England for the 1968 EC We didn't draw them though. (Unless that group was an incredible coincidence ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 That last England game at hampden - Scotland weren't trying at all in my opinion. Strachan put the same team out in the first half that had beaten Ireland on the Friday. It was obvious he told the players just to do the minimum. Look at Broonie for example - he went missing in the middle. Although Strachan made noises about being up for it - behind the scenes they weren't. Total write off of a game - meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 That last England game at hampden - Scotland weren't trying at all in my opinion. Strachan put the same team out in the first half that had beaten Ireland on the Friday. It was obvious he told the players just to do the minimum. Look at Broonie for example - he went missing in the middle. Although Strachan made noises about being up for it - behind the scenes they weren't. Total write off of a game - meaningless. Meaningless? If we'd won that game we could have gone to Euro2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 That last England game at hampden - Scotland weren't trying at all in my opinion. Strachan put the same team out in the first half that had beaten Ireland on the Friday. It was obvious he told the players just to do the minimum. Look at Broonie for example - he went missing in the middle. Although Strachan made noises about being up for it - behind the scenes they weren't. Total write off of a game - meaningless. You think a Scotland team took to the pitch against England and didn't try and Strachan told them to?! Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I think England will get maximum points from the campaign. 2nd place is there for the taking for us. We must aim to win this group if we're serious about qualifying. 2nd place doesn't guarantee you a play-off for a start. And if we do get in them, assuming we'll be unseeded, means pretty much a 50/50 chance of meeting Netherlands / France / Spain / Italy. Not good odds there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Meaningless? If we'd won that game we could have gone to Euro2000. sarky...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 we won't win this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angusfifer Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 You could argue we've met England before in a qualifier for the World Cup finals. If we'd beaten them in 1950 we would have qualified for Brazil, in fact the SFA in their wisdom decided that we would not travel despite "qualifying" by achieving second place in the Home Internationals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Meaningless? If we'd won that game we could have gone to Euro2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 i think we should hack England. if the game is beyond us then we start haffing england players all over the pitch. Bring back Christian Dailly for this game if need be. ping pow ping ping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 i think we should hack England. if the game is beyond us then we start haffing england players all over the pitch. Bring back Christian Dailly for this game if need be. ping pow ping ping Probably best that you should go back to bed for a couple of hours. I think you are still tired and emotional after the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 That last England game at hampden - Scotland weren't trying at all in my opinion. Strachan put the same team out in the first half that had beaten Ireland on the Friday. It was obvious he told the players just to do the minimum. Look at Broonie for example - he went missing in the middle. Although Strachan made noises about being up for it - behind the scenes they weren't. Total write off of a game - meaningless. I wouldn't say they weren't trying, I reckon they'd put everything into the game on Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 i think we should hack England. if the game is beyond us then we start haffing england players all over the pitch. Bring back Christian Dailly for this game if need be. ping pow ping ping I seriously doubt your credentials as a Scotland fan at times. I mean for months you have spammed the board with how you want England as they are crap and now that we have drawn them you are adamant they will win the group. Therefore why weren't you hoping we'd draw a top seed we could beat to enhance our qualification hopes such as Wales or Romania? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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