Scotty CTA Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Stu101 said: If this is your friend John again, please tell him to get some help. It's from the 'comments'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool78 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 hours ago, BlueGaz said: Its news that is not new. Do you think its a total coincidence it came out now? It's not. justice for creditor 277 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, Blackpool78 said: justice for creditor 277 Was waiting for something from Torbett Towers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Torbett Towers. That’s a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: That’s a new one. Wouldn’t normally use that phrase, but trial starts today hence the BBC article ref Rangers earlier. Which is what we were talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Toepoke said: This might quell the paedo obsession from a section of the Rangers support... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44126217 That's incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, phart said: That's incredible. Why is it incredible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Why is it incredible? I'd guess morals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, Ally Bongo said: I'd guess morals What a find incredible is a victim of such a dispicable crime being advised to go direct to a club and not to the police. This is a criminal offence that is being alleged. The club should be nowhere near it initially. Go to police, do it properly and the club will be brought into it at the appropriate juncture. I still can’t get my head round it. What I also find incredible, is the timing of this by the bbc. This was first reported 2 years ago. The guy was sacked at the time and police informed. Why are the police not involved? Why is it being brought to the fore again today? Because torrbet trial starts today and that is going to open a whole world of hurt, very soon. BBC are the cunts here, playing games with something so sensitive and disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 hours ago, biffer said: Any claims for damages do. Anything to do with reputation, culture, history, etc are apparently all the same club. So it depends if the main thing the complainant wants is compensation, or if it's more an investigation into how it happened and how much wider it went. If it's the later then it's up to the NewCo, by their own standards of owning the history. Agreed on the investigations point, and they should do it, if thats what he wishes to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 irrespective of the motives or the timing of this accusation Rangers really need to get a new PR person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 So maybe there’s more than one ‘big Jock’ that knew ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Who is the other one? Hibs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, killiefaetheferry said: So maybe there’s more than one ‘big Jock’ that knew ? The big difference being Rangers reported it to the police and sacked the guy. Maybe they could have done more? We don't know yet. What did Hibs do. Where he did this prior? If it's proved Rangers did hide something then they deserve all they get. The victim(s) here are the ones who need the right support from the right bodies, but, financially it is correct. I just find it baffling he's been advised to make a financial claim first before going to the police. The timing off all this is spectacular, and considering other things i do question why Rangers are being singled out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Debian said: The big difference being Rangers reported it to the police and sacked the guy. Maybe they could have done more? We don't know yet. What did Hibs do. Where he did this prior? If it's proved Rangers did hide something then they deserve all they get. The victim(s) here are the ones who need the right support from the right bodies, but, financially it is correct. I just find it baffling he's been advised to make a financial claim first before going to the police. The timing off all this is spectacular, and considering other things i do question why Rangers are being singled out... Hiding what? As soon as the young lads dad came to see the management, the cunt was sacked and the police were informed. What did the police do? (I don’t know). I agree with you about the routes taken. Strange and I’m not convinced all is as it seems. The timing is perfect by the puppeteers that control all our media. The BBC are scum in this instance I doubt Rangers are hiding anything in this case. That’s a line towed in other places. Having a fucking awful PR dept isn’t a crime. Politely pointing allegations in the right direction is the correct thing to do, although in this case it should have been the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Hiding what? As soon as the young lads dad came to see the management, the cunt was sacked and the police were informed. What did the police do? (I don’t know). I agree with you about the routes taken. Strange and I’m not convinced all is as it seems. The timing is perfect by the puppeteers that control all our media. The BBC are scum in this instance I doubt Rangers are hiding anything in this case. That’s a line towed in other places. Having a fucking awful PR dept isn’t a crime. Politely pointing allegations in the right direction is the correct thing to do, although in this case it should have been the police. I'm not saying we have, but if what we have done (all above board so far) is disproved then it changes things. Ultimately it's a well orchestrated attack, but it doesn't surprise me... what is likely though is that the Torbett outcome is known and this is being used to drag us down with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Debian said: I'm not saying we have, but if what we have done (all above board so far) is disproved then it changes things. Ultimately it's a well orchestrated attack, but it doesn't surprise me... what is likely though is that the Torbett outcome is known and this is being used to drag us down with them... Unlike England, I thought that the police up here had to act when made aware of a crime. It’s not the victims call if they want to pursue it or not. So don’t understand why they are not involved. If I was Rangers I’d be straight on to the police after the BBCs antics today. Get them to deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Debian said: Ultimately it's a well orchestrated attack, but it doesn't surprise me... what is likely though is that the Torbett outcome is known and this is being used to drag us down with them... Potentially a lot more clubs involved than two though. I’m unsure what the outcome will be. But could guarantee there are many shitting themselves. And rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) The timing on this is all very dodgy, considering (a) it was reported to the police at the time, (b) it was flagged again recently during the ongoing investigation into abuse in Scottish Football, and (c) the club have correctly said they cant settle any claims as they are legally barred from doing so, but have offered what else they can (counseling, etc.). There isn't even a story here as far as I can see, sad as it all is. I'm wondering if their maybe certain reporting restrictions at the 'other' trial that started today..... but even that would be a stretch. EDIT: seems the trial date for Torbett is now June, though not fixed as far as I can see. Edited May 16, 2018 by Stu101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Why is it only Rangers fans who seem to know about this Torbett trial? Had a couple of Rangers fans referencing it on FB last night too. I doubt anyone else in Scotland has even the slightest knowledge about it. It seems they are either extreme pursuers of justice or maybe there is another reason they all seem to have an interest in it. Whatever reason, it’s pretty unhealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool78 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dalgety Bay TA said: Why is it only Rangers fans who seem to know about this Torbett trial? Had a couple of Rangers fans referencing it on FB last night too. I doubt anyone else in Scotland has even the slightest knowledge about it. It seems they are either extreme pursuers of justice or maybe there is another reason they all seem to have an interest in it. Whatever reason, it’s pretty unhealthy. Obsessed springs to mind, maybe if they looked a little closer to home they wouldn't use it to take the moral high ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) so, let me get this right. Someone of a celtic persuasion has released this story through the BBC about some kid who was abused by an ex rangers coach, the timing of the release is to coincide with an ex celtic coach standing trial to have a pop at rangers? The BBC and pretty much everyone else on earth is out to get rangers Have I got this right? Edited May 17, 2018 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Big Col said: irrespective of the motives or the timing of this accusation Rangers really need to get a new PR person The wording of that statement is nothing but scummy. Has Jabba's name written all over it Using child abuse to point score In a club statement? Jesus wept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 10 hours ago, BlueGaz said: Having a fucking awful PR dept isn’t a crime. Politely pointing allegations in the right direction is the correct thing to do, although in this case it should have been the police. Using it to point score is below the belt though. There was nothing polite about paranoid ramblings in that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: so, let me get this right. Someone of a celtic persuasion has released this story through the BBC about some kid who was abused by an ex rangers coach, the timing of the release is to coincide with an ex celtic coach standing trial to have a pop at rangers? The BBC and pretty much everyone else on earth is out to get rangers Have I got this right? Aye, watch you don't get called a bangwagon jumper for calling them out for being paranoid gimps though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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