Flure Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Pleased with the result gutted by the Young fans tragic death. I've attended hundreds of matches now and I'd a few observations last night. A few of which were very concerning 3)why was so much alcoholic allowed into the ground when it was well known the Irish fans would be there and there was massive potential for a powder keg! On what did you base this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyg83 Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 I agree with andyg83. I'm talking from personal experience of meeting scores of cracking Irish folk over the years. I spent a few of those years working and studying in France meeting lots of different nationalities but the Scots and Irish tended to become the closest social bunch of friends (along with the Dutch). Go anywhere and I bet the Scots and Irish have the most in common and meet and socialise together more than most. Great people IMO. through drink maybe. I think the humour as well. We have the ability to laugh at ourselves which some countries don't. It is funny that when you travel the Irish and the scots naturally gravitate to each other and end up being friends. There must be something in it. Happens too often for it to be a coincidence. So yes I do view them as our Celtic cousins. Doesn't mean I want them to win at sport all the time but I can empathise with them more than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 through drink maybe. Because I like the Irish ? I like them sober too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) I think the humour as well. We have the ability to laugh at ourselves which some countries don't. It is funny that when you travel the Irish and the scots naturally gravitate to each other and end up being friends. There must be something in it. Happens too often for it to be a coincidence. So yes I do view them as our Celtic cousins. Doesn't mean I want them to win at sport all the time but I can empathise with them more than most. Eddy must be too sober then. PS I don't want them to win either, but they're generally a very good bunch. Edited November 15, 2014 by fringo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentina78 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 On what did you base this? I based it on what I saw, I saw 4/5 idiots in the same row as me with bottles of buck fast, the reason I noticed was bcos they were so pissed they knocked some over smashing them. So I started to look around and saw numerous fans with drink as well as a few smoking too which no steward dealt with. Everyone knew that Ireland fans would be in the Scottish support and with all alcohol and glass lying around of course there's always potential for problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I based it on what I saw, I saw 4/5 idiots in the same row as me with bottles of buck fast, the reason I noticed was bcos they were so pissed they knocked some over smashing them. So I started to look around and saw numerous fans with drink as well as a few smoking too which no steward dealt with. Everyone knew that Ireland fans would be in the Scottish support and with all alcohol and glass lying around of course there's always potential for problems In my opinion, after having interfaced with the supporters of Ireland both home and away, the potential for problems was very, very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide tackle Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Where are you from? People in the Republic of Ireland have zero ill will towards Scotland. We see you as cousins and if you make Euro 2016 then everyone will be cheering you on. same here vice versa mate, hopefully we both make it to france Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) same here vice versa mate, hopefully we both make it to franceSadly I don't see Germany or Poland finishing fourth, that's why we are viewing our games against ireland as must wins or four points from 6.Without sounding arrogant I think Scotland have a better squad than Ireland who have relied to heavily on Robbie Keane. If Scotland do not qualify for France 2016, I fear we may never qualify again. This is our time. In GORD we trust. Edited November 15, 2014 by Robroysboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirta_1976 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Last night in one particular area of the stadium we had Kilts v kilts. Problem was down to a few loud mouthed pissheads being more than bigoted while Irish folks nearby....self-policing bare knuckle.. the TA have a good reputation, remember... Edited November 15, 2014 by Hirta_1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Be wary of people with agendas spreading stories. A bit like those inbred Manyoo fans who make up stories of anti-Man Utd chants at England games so they have an excuse to hate the England team. I never saw or heard any sign of trouble, apart from a rush of high-viz jackets into the corner of the JS stand beside the main stand during the second half. No trouble near the Irish fans I saw near me. Anyone who resorted to coin throwing or sectarian insult nonsense is an obvious idiot (and minority) and if there's any truth to that I hope they're not at any Scotland games in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angusfifer Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 We were in the Jock Stein upper and I would say it was a fantastic atmosphere. One pocket of Irish fans who appeared to co-exist with their neighbours pretty well. The only hint of bother was a guy at the back taking exception to some overly exuberant anti- McGeady chanting. Personally I think the energy extended to this stuff would be better spent cheering on the team but each to their own. The minor fracas was sorted out amicably with handshakes all round. Every Irish fan we met was sound as a pound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetenerife Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Walking to game with my son last night, approached by a well bevvied young guy from Aberdeen who was mildly aggressive, especially regarding my unwillingness to divulge my Club allegiance. No harm done, but was a bit annoying. Are you a specialist on Scottish dialects? How could you tell he was from Aberdeen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Dublin... Three times but that was to many.. Never had coins thrown at me but I didnt think they could AFFORD it........F**King gypos Wind your neck in Ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo1609 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 One absolute walloper in the row in front of me in the North Stand giving two Irish lads dogs abuse after we scored. He was completely out of order and those he was with were mortified. We told him to shut the feck up as he was close to getting a slap. Telling the guys to get the feck out of our end? Any away trip I have attended I have always seen TA in the home end; the Irish guys were being no different. Anyway, I hope the tosser is not there on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You think? I don't. I live in one the worlds most sectarian cities and see it on a daily basis. I've also witnessed it on several away trips and many home games. Jerusalem TA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenforever Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 In the Irish Section of the South Stand and a few Scots around us, sound lads, as were everyone I met, however my daughter just a few rows down was subjected to some disgusting verbal abuse from some Scots. We also were lucky enough to bum a lift on some Scottish supporters bus to the game, even if we had to hide on the floor as the driver wouldnt move with the bus overloaded. Personally the only bad part of the trip was the Scottish goal. Looking forward to revenge in Dublin next June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAteAllThePies Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think people need to look at the element of Scots that were at the game that were not supporting Scotland. We had a groud of Irish to our right. They were sound. They shouted Aiden McGeady - we would do an add on. They seen it as banter and it was handshakes all round. Speaking after the game the only thing they were bothered about was their chance for revenge in the return ficture (results wise). The two "Scots" boys beside us though, they were a different matter and left just after the goal. They obviously had an "affinity" with Ireland. There were also a few bampots supporting Scotland that seen it as a bigger rivarly than our southern neighbours. For every "Irish Scot" there was a reciprocal "Union" Scot. Scots hating Scots. It's why this country is f-cked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think people need to look at the element of Scots that were at the game that were not supporting Scotland. We had a groud of Irish to our right. They were sound. They shouted Aiden McGeady - we would do an add on. They seen it as banter and it was handshakes all round. Speaking after the game the only thing they were bothered about was their chance for revenge in the return ficture (results wise). The two "Scots" boys beside us though, they were a different matter and left just after the goal. They obviously had an "affinity" with Ireland. There were also a few bampots supporting Scotland that seen it as a bigger rivarly than our southern neighbours. For every "Irish Scot" there was a reciprocal "Union" Scot. Scots hating Scots. It's why this country is f-cked. It really is unique the self loathing among a very strange minority. I feel it's dying out a bit now though. A good Scottish side that reaches finals will hopefully see some of these guys turn to us, hopefully we phase it out. Why can't some of the fans of the OF clubs just be two proud Scottish supporting clubs? Feel a yes would've helped tbh. Celtic fans would've felt less anti UK/British cause we would no longer be in it they wouldn't feel the need to 'rebel' and the Rangers fans might not be as into it as much and as the youtube videos showed they'd all move to Wales too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Are you a specialist on Scottish dialects? How could you tell he was from Aberdeen? Using probabilities. Scotland fan, pished and acting liking a clown is 98.7% likely to come from No city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Be wary of people with agendas spreading stories. A bit like those inbred Manyoo fans who make up stories of anti-Man Utd chants at England games so they have an excuse to hate the England team. I never saw or heard any sign of trouble, apart from a rush of high-viz jackets into the corner of the JS stand beside the main stand during the second half. No trouble near the Irish fans I saw near me. Anyone who resorted to coin throwing or sectarian insult nonsense is an obvious idiot (and minority) and if there's any truth to that I hope they're not at any Scotland games in future. Your second para was exactly the same as my impression. And the level of abuse beyond the pantomime McGeady booing was the extent of a guy behind us shouting John O'Shit every time O'Shea went hear the ball. I realise it doesn't seem much but had us pissing ourselves every time he shouted it and to be fair, he never let us down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think people need to look at the element of Scots that were at the game that were not supporting Scotland. We had a groud of Irish to our right. They were sound. They shouted Aiden McGeady - we would do an add on. They seen it as banter and it was handshakes all round. Speaking after the game the only thing they were bothered about was their chance for revenge in the return ficture (results wise). The two "Scots" boys beside us though, they were a different matter and left just after the goal. They obviously had an "affinity" with Ireland. There were also a few bampots supporting Scotland that seen it as a bigger rivarly than our southern neighbours. For every "Irish Scot" there was a reciprocal "Union" Scot. Scots hating Scots. It's why this country is f-cked. I could not agree more. Good to see all the actual incidents of bigotry against Irish fans does not merit comment but Scots Irish who support Ireland are equated with it. Nationalists like you make me relieved it was a No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstroma Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Never witnessed any incidents, thought the Irish mixed well and looking forward to sharing a few beers with them in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) I could not agree more. Good to see all the actual incidents of bigotry against Irish fans does not merit comment but Scots Irish who support Ireland are equated with it. Nationalists like you make me relieved it was a No. Think you got the wrong end of the stick. His bit about having an affinity with Ireland were meant to convey they were loyalists, IMO anyway Edited November 16, 2014 by dipped flake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I had to ask a guy to stop standing on his seat so i could see the game. Shocking eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Think you got the wrong end of the stick. His bit about having an affinity with Ireland were meant to convey they were loyalists, IMO anyway No I haven't. Plenty of stories across many threads of ugly incidents where Irish fans have been abused by the 'Union Scots' in our support as he euphemistically terms them. He then keeps dragging in Scots who support Ireland...but were they coining anyone or abusing Irish fans? eh no at least not that I am seeing from the tales on here. Being pro Ireland is not a crime if that is how you feel. (And frankly reading the comments from many 'nationalists' on here over the years I can more than understand why many do.) Abusing and attacking Irish fans for simply being Irish however is a crime. Yet he tries to conflate the two. Well off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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