Orraloon Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 What happens if a list MSP resigns or pops his clogs? Do they get replaced by the next person on that party's list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 aye, and Sunny Jim is not on the list............that's why a FPTP guy has to be sacrificed... paisley, Renfrewshire is Labour 3rd strongest Holy rude seat and the strongest on the west coast,,,, him moving from east ren to west ren could/ will be spun as a local seat................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 What happens if a list MSP resigns or pops his clogs? Do they get replaced by the next person on that party's list? Nah its a Dutch auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 What happens if a list MSP resigns or pops his clogs? Do they get replaced by the next person on that party's list? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 is there not a by election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Didn't know who Findlay was and having listened to him on Smith show I realise why. Still the electoral college system may produce an odd result. Any odds on who's favourite? Murphy 4/7 Findlay 11/8 Boyack 10s Brown 12s Dugdale 18s Sarwar 20s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Who is saying that Murphy will stand for Holyrood? It seems far fetched to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Who is saying that Murphy will stand for Holyrood? It seems far fetched to me. Murphy did. He says he wants to be First Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 "Breaking a five-day media silence, the Shadow International Development Secretary last night announced: "I'm standing for First Minister of ÂScotland and I intend to win." He added: "I want to bring Scotland back together after the referendum. There is so much to be proud of in Scotland but so much we have to change. I've travelled to every part of our country and I know that people want us to get on with tackling poverty and increasing prosperity. As leader of Scottish Labour and as First Minister of Scotland that is exactly what I will do." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 "Breaking a five-day media silence, the Shadow International Development Secretary last night announced: "I'm standing for First Minister of ÂScotland and I intend to win." He added: "I want to bring Scotland back together after the referendum. There is so much to be proud of in Scotland but so much we have to change. I've travelled to every part of our country and I know that people want us to get on with tackling poverty and increasing prosperity. As leader of Scottish Labour and as First Minister of Scotland that is exactly what I will do." Does he think if he wins the vote to be labour leader he actually becomes first minister as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Does he think if he wins the vote to be labour leader he actually becomes first minister as well No, he's saying that once he becomes leader of Labour in Scotland, he'll then stand for election to Holyrood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Jim hasn't been following scottish politics much, has he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Murphy did. He says he wants to be First Minister I think we need a more credible source than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think we need a more credible source than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Would be awesome for their to be a bi-election to get him into Holyrood and for him to lose. That would almost make losing indyref worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Would be awesome for their to be a bi-election to get him into Holyrood and for him to lose. That would almost make losing indyref worthwhile. I don't think he will risk that. He will wait until 2016 and put himself top of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khana Lagur Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) "Breaking a five-day media silence, the Shadow International Development Secretary last night announced: "I'm standing for First Minister of ÂScotland and I intend to win." He added: "I want to bring Scotland back together after the referendum. There is so much to be proud of in Scotland but so much we have to change. I've travelled to every part of our country and I know that people want us to get on with tackling poverty and increasing prosperity. As leader of Scottish Labour and as First Minister of Scotland that is exactly what I will do." Murphy took a few days to announce this because he's been busy. As one of Hlloween's favourite characters, he's had a full schedule of hauntings to plan. I love the way Labour politicians constantly go on about tackling poverty, especially Scottish ones. The reality is partly that Labour need the continuation of poverty for their vote. I look forward to hearing what Jim et al's plans are for this great social re-engineering, given that any attempt at tackling poverty would have to start with a truly progressive tax system - which Labour doesn't want it's Scottish branch office to have power over. Does he think if he wins the vote to be labour leader he actually becomes first minister as well Is it not a requirement that anyone standing for Scottish branch manager has to commit to the goal of FM? Edited October 30, 2014 by Khana Lagur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Murphy is bookies favourite, but the value is on Findlay as I reckon he'll take the majority of the TU votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If Murphy wins it will be the nail in the coffin that followed the bullet in the head that was Johann, and the brutal sodomisation that was Grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Murphy is bookies favourite, but the value is on Findlay as I reckon he'll take the majority of the TU votes. Hmmm. Cant see it. I dont think Murphy would have entered unless he was sure he had shored up enough support to win. Would be damaging to his profile to be defeated in a leadership election. I think the delay in his declaration has been him securing backers. I read an article by Findlay the other day and thought he was a serious contender. Heard him on radio last night and watched him on TV - he's nowhere near ready for leadership or the media profile. Sarah Boyack is probably the best of a bad bunch IMO. For a whole host of reasons, Murphy is the best choice for absolutely destroying Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlyscot Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 The fact is though that Labour see him as the only person capable of taking the fight to the snp. Rightly or wrongly it emphasises the dearth of talent in Scottish Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hmmm. Cant see it. I dont think Murphy would have entered unless he was sure he had shored up enough support to win. Would be damaging to his profile to be defeated in a leadership election. I think the delay in his declaration has been him securing backers. I read an article by Findlay the other day and thought he was a serious contender. Heard him on radio last night and watched him on TV - he's nowhere near ready for leadership or the media profile. Sarah Boyack is probably the best of a bad bunch IMO. For a whole host of reasons, Murphy is the best choice for absolutely destroying Labour. I've no doubt it will be Murphy, I was just saying that value is in Findlay if anyone fancies a flutter, he will definitely take the majority of the TU vote though. Probably won't be a separate market on that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If Murphy wins it will be the nail in the coffin that followed the bullet in the head that was Johann, and the brutal sodomisation that was Grey. Enjoying the analogies Boyack would be a steady hand on the tiller for Labour. The Walter Smith after Berti Vogts type of candidate. However Murphy would be like going straight from Vogts to Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Now I think about it, it would be like going from Vogts straight to Burley. I am sure there is an even worse candidate out there who can be Labour's Levein once Murphy crashes and burns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Heard some unsubstantiated talk that Boyack is Murphy's pal and has only put herself forward to help him out by splitting the MSP vote.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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