aaid Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, hampden_loon2878 said: Why not just come out and say from the start you were going to follow HQ orders? I see humza came out and said he has the most first preference votes, a slip of the tongue or something more sinister? Regardless the man is a train wreck and to even come out with that shows his incompetence Because I genuinely hadn’t made my mind up until the end of this week. I see you’re getting your excuses in early if he wins tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, aaid said: Because I genuinely hadn’t made my mind up until the end of this week. I see you’re getting your excuses in early if he wins tomorrow. Excuses For what? someone winning that I have zero control over. if there’s anything underhand been going on, I dare say ash will be straight on the case, she seem to be good at that, she has a set of balls that’s for sure. I have actually heard they are setting up a legal challenge if he does win, maybe that came from a taxi driver as well. If humza wins then it’s on you and all those who endorsed him when he kills independence,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, hampden_loon2878 said: Excuses For what? someone winning that I have zero control over. if there’s anything underhand been going on, I dare say ash will be straight on the case, she seem to be good at that, she has a set of balls that’s for sure. I have actually heard they are setting up a legal challenge if he does win, maybe that came from a taxi driver as well. If humza wins then it’s on you and all those who endorsed him when he kills independence,, Oh, I suspect that’s come from the same person who has been feeding you all the lines that have come to nothing for the last few years. I’m not sure if you genuinely believe all that crap or whether you know it’s crap but are just interested in spreading shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Imagine Humza wins it by one vote lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 If humza wins you can kiss goodbye to independence for a long time. I could honestly see him losing loads of seats in elections too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 minute ago, vanderark14 said: If humza wins you can kiss goodbye to independence for a long time. I could honestly see him losing loads of seats in elections too Actually, I think the SNP will lose seats regardless of who wins, the question remains how many and how much long term damage will be caused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, aaid said: Actually, I think the SNP will lose seats regardless of who wins, the question remains how many and how much long term damage will be caused. It's guaranteed with Humza With Forbes not so much - particularly now Trans Activism is losing support rapidly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Let's be honest you can kiss goodbye to independence for a long time regardless of who wins. I hope Kate or Ash do win it, cause then we get to see it being kissed goodbye for a long time without having to worry about the counterfactual crowd being if only x won, we'd be independent. The whole thing is trench warfare now. No one is making any gains outwith statistical swings. There needs to be a radical overhaul of how we try and persuade people. None of the 3 candidates are particularly impressive. Kate Forbes has the highest ceiling by quite a margin, in my opinion. The fact she has been indoctrinated in theology and is essentially a groomed and sponsored christian conservative notwithstanding. She's the gamble only one of the three with any chance of doing something, but could also backfire. Ash Regan reminds me of someone trying to win a primary in the USA, but with no appeal outside that. Hamza is semi-competent and has some experience , a career politician, utterly uninspiring but the "safest choice". Since I don't care about the SNP retaining government or how well it does, i'd gamble and vote on Forbes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Redz said: Still to vote / have no idea I truly hope we come out of this mess stronger and more effective, eventually..... Voted Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Freeedom said: I asked her yesterday, she said that yes people are a bit more stuck up at Oxford than Cambridge. She added that Cambridge is more "nerdy" and Oxford is a bit more humanities focused. Thanks! That makes sense. I found this article which lays bare the sheer number of Oxford and Cambridge graduates in the Tory and Labour parties at Westminster. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/oxbridge-university-bias-among-mps-8006661 It's a shame they don't break it down by subject studied. (I'd hypothesise that most of the Oxbrige MPs have humanities degrees, which in turn might explain why so many Oxford graduates end up in politics? ) The bit that jumped out at me: "...10 MPs graduated from a single college, Balliol in Oxford. [7 CONs 3 LABs]...". It's got a bit of a "To the Manor Born" architectural vibe? . Edited March 26, 2023 by mcguffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, mcguffin said: Thanks! That makes sense. I found this article which breaks lays bare the sheer number of Oxford and Cambridge graduates in the Tory and Labour parties at Westminster. It's a shame they don't break it down by subject studied. (I'd hypothesise that most of the Oxbrige MPs have humanities degrees, which in turn might explain why so many Oxford graduates end up in politics? ) The bit that jumped out at me: "...10 MPs graduated from a single college, Balliol in Oxford. [7 CONs 3 LABs]...". It's got a bit of a "To the Manor Born" architectural vibe? . Probably right, Thatcher studies chemistry under the tutelage of a nobel prize winner though. Also PPE: the Oxford degree that runs Britain https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/23/ppe-oxford-university-degree-that-rules-britain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, phart said: Probably right, Thatcher studies chemistry under the tutelage of a nobel prize winner though. Also PPE: the Oxford degree that runs Britain https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/23/ppe-oxford-university-degree-that-rules-britain Started reading that article. VERY interesting (though I'll admit, I don't have the mental stamina to get to the end in one sitting--I guess I'm not '16-essays-per-term' PPE material 😉). Shame Thatcher didn't stick to chemistry in my opinion. (I'm impressed by her education though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 The new leader of the SNP will be announced at 2pm tomorrow at Murrayfield Aaid is flying up with his Humza for leader banner .... I'm getting a bit depressed as i'm feeling Humza will be announced as the winner regardless of the taxi driver Will the SNP website crash around 2.30 with the amount of membership cancellations or will they take it down before then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: The new leader of the SNP will be announced at 2pm tomorrow at Murrayfield Aaid is flying up with his Humza for leader banner .... I'm getting a bit depressed as i'm feeling Humza will be announced as the winner regardless of the taxi driver Will the SNP website crash around 2.30 with the amount of membership cancellations or will they take it down before then ? I don't think there is an option for cancelling on the website, unless it's a new thing they have added recently. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: The new leader of the SNP will be announced at 2pm tomorrow at Murrayfield Aaid is flying up with his Humza for leader banner .... I'm getting a bit depressed as i'm feeling Humza will be announced as the winner regardless of the taxi driver Will the SNP website crash around 2.30 with the amount of membership cancellations or will they take it down before then ? My initial temptation will be to resign my membership however humza will not be in the position long so will grin and bear it like I have done for the last 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I don't think there is an option for cancelling on the website, unless it's a new thing they have added recently. 😉 You click on your account then manage your membership Even a chimp could find it ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: My initial temptation will be to resign my membership however humza will not be in the position long so will grin and bear it like I have done for the last 6 years. I think you are underestimating what it is going to be like Humiliation wont come close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I just voted in the election: Forbes Regan Yousaf Can't say I'm expecting anything other than Yousaf becoming leader tomorrow though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Clyde1998 said: I just voted in the election: Forbes Regan Yousaf Can't say I'm expecting anything other than Yousaf becoming leader tomorrow though. Well we can at least say, “don’t blame the tab” (apart from aaid) when it turns to rat shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: I think you are underestimating what it is going to be like Humiliation wont come close It will be harder going forward, if humza gets in, we have had our branch infiltrated by roasters from that Aberdeen independence movement and they are horrible cunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 14 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Why not just come out and say from the start you were going to follow HQ orders? I see humza came out and said he has the most first preference votes, a slip of the tongue or something more sinister? Regardless the man is a train wreck and to even come out with that shows his incompetence Did that actually happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Clyde1998 said: I just voted in the election: Forbes Regan Yousaf Can't say I'm expecting anything other than Yousaf becoming leader tomorrow though. Snap & Snap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, Redz said: Did that actually happen? Yes, although he could have been referring to polls that have him slightly ahead, it’s raised a few eyebrows that’s for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Angus reminding everyone that there is only a few hours left to vote for Humza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) This worries me as saying this before the result, to me, infers that he has won Wings Over Scotland @WingsScotland · 40m I don't think there's any chance Humza Yousaf has won the SNP leadership election legitimately. But this morning I'm deeply worried that those still controlling the party have absolutely nothing left to lose by fixing it in his favour. Edited March 27, 2023 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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