ceudmilefailte Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 45 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Also it's important to keep continuity in a team Let’s continue our seven games without a win run. We might scrape out of the group stage and Clarke will become a national treasure but we could also go another seven games without a win. Feel sorry for Clarke the way things are looking, but anyone who thinks he played Ferguson and Shankland enough or tried out all his positional options in our last seven games has their head in the sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 21 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Let’s continue our seven games without a win run. We might scrape out of the group stage and Clarke will become a national treasure but we could also go another seven games without a win. Feel sorry for Clarke the way things are looking, but anyone who thinks he played Ferguson and Shankland enough or tried out all his positional options in our last seven games has their head in the sand. I 100% agree with your comment here. I thought the issue was very evident when Craig Gordon broke his leg and we had not been giving any of the other's meaningful opportunities, getting Gunn to commit got us out of jail but it highlighted there was a risk with Clarke's MO. We had friendlies, and other matches where we were comfortable, take the opportunity to give others more game time than the odd 5 minutes here and there. The recent friendlies were a golden opportunity to try different options in a few 'zero' risk matches. We all got humbled regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Let’s continue our seven games without a win run. We might scrape out of the group stage and Clarke will become a national treasure but we could also go another seven games without a win. Feel sorry for Clarke the way things are looking, but anyone who thinks he played Ferguson and Shankland enough or tried out all his positional options in our last seven games has their head in the sand. When you consider who those games was against then it's not that bad. What matters is we qualified with 2 games to spare. That to me suggests the squad and players Clarke has picked are correct and allowing them to continue to play together was always going to be a strong option rather than testing new players. I find ppl on here criticizing him for keeping a bit of continuity strange. It's all very well saying he should of done this or picked this guy. The squad Clarke picked is the same squad that got us unprecedented success in qualifying. Qualifying with 2 games to spare must one of our greatest achievements. Why would Clarke start an overhaul and start bringing in 4 or 5 new guys. Did you want Clarke to bring in 4 or 5 new(guys who are uncapped) guys for our last 7 games or did you want continuity with the squad? Try and be honest with your answer. All I personally wanted was shankland and Ferguson to be given a chance which they got, albeit I think they should have gotten more gametime but that would mean less gametime for our guys who win us matches.(Mcginn and mctominay). Bringing in new guys and testing them out in matches that we wanted to do well in was highly unlikely and you are only suggesting this now that 1. We got bad results 2. We have a potential injury crisis Stop using the benefit of hindsight to unfairly bash Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 26 minutes ago, romanticscot said: I 100% agree with your comment here. I thought the issue was very evident when Craig Gordon broke his leg and we had not been giving any of the other's meaningful opportunities, getting Gunn to commit got us out of jail but it highlighted there was a risk with Clarke's MO. We had friendlies, and other matches where we were comfortable, take the opportunity to give others more game time than the odd 5 minutes here and there. The recent friendlies were a golden opportunity to try different options in a few 'zero' risk matches. We all got humbled regardless. Eh? Your criticizing Clarke for not trying out new players yet he manages to get Gunn to commit to us and plays him straight away and basically saves us from having to rely on utter dross for probably the next 5+ years. Lol this place is hard work at times. As I said with the previous post you are saying this now with hindsight. Did you want loads of new players brought in for the last 7 games? I don't remember anyone on here suggesting trying out new guys in the squad. I didn't, I felt that the guys who had us qualified with 2 games to spare deserved a chance at playing the big nations and showing they can continue our good form. It was only Ferguson and shankland that ppl wanted to be given more chances and they did. Edited May 1 by mccaughey85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Eh? Your criticizing Clarke for not trying out new players yet he manages to get Gunn to commit to us and plays him straight away and basically saves us from having to rely on utter dross for probably the next 5+ years. Lol this place is hard work at times. As I said with the previous post you are saying this now with hindsight. Did you want loads of new players brought in for the last 7 games? I don't remember anyone on here suggesting trying out new guys in the squad. I didn't, I felt that the guys who had us qualified with 2 games to spare deserved a chance at playing the big nations and showing they can continue our good form. It was only Ferguson and shankland that ppl wanted to be given more chances and they did. Yes, if Gunn, a player who earlier rejected playing for Scotland had not changed his position, we would likely have not qualified. I cannot be dogmatic about that, but from a pre-injury Gordon to the other keepers, it is a significant drop and not helped by the fact they hardly had any opportunities. I wouldn't move the needle to the other extreme, but we had chances for larger squads to call lads up and train with them at the very least. The goalkeeper situation served as a warning, IMO to have called up others and look at them up close. My fear is with only two matches before the EURO's some will be discounted because it's considered too close and guys who are passed it like Cooper might get drafted in, who I think is a waste of a spot and was a waste of a spot in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: When you consider who those games was against then it's not that bad. What matters is we qualified with 2 games to spare. That to me suggests the squad and players Clarke has picked are correct and allowing them to continue to play together was always going to be a strong option rather than testing new players. I find ppl on here criticizing him for keeping a bit of continuity strange. It's all very well saying he should of done this or picked this guy. The squad Clarke picked is the same squad that got us unprecedented success in qualifying. Qualifying with 2 games to spare must one of our greatest achievements. Why would Clarke start an overhaul and start bringing in 4 or 5 new guys. Did you want Clarke to bring in 4 or 5 new(guys who are uncapped) guys for our last 7 games or did you want continuity with the squad? Try and be honest with your answer. All I personally wanted was shankland and Ferguson to be given a chance which they got, albeit I think they should have gotten more gametime but that would mean less gametime for our guys who win us matches.(Mcginn and mctominay). Bringing in new guys and testing them out in matches that we wanted to do well in was highly unlikely and you are only suggesting this now that 1. We got bad results 2. We have a potential injury crisis Stop using the benefit of hindsight to unfairly bash Clarke. Nothing to do with hindsight I and many others suggested this long before the current injury crisis if you check the Steve Clarke thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 17 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Nothing to do with hindsight I and many others suggested this long before the current injury crisis if you check the Steve Clarke thread. Did you purposely miss point number 1? Yeh ppl started suggesting Clarke should have tried new players out AFTER our run of bad results. It was only after we started getting bad results that ppl started getting critical of Clarke and suggested new players should have been tried out. I don't understand this mindset. I ain't going to criticise Clarke for something that I didn't want. Maybe you could show me the quotes of ppl who wanted new players(uncapped) tried out before the England game or even the Spain game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Liam Palmer again on the scoresheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Che Adams has just limped off for Southampton. On a plus note Ross Stewart on the bench after a long absence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 14 minutes ago, noctonjock said: Che Adams has just limped off for Southampton. Brilliant 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Looks like Turnbull had another poor game for Cardiff, losing 5-2 to bottom of the league. There was a wide open space for him in the squad but don’t see how he can justify a place. Disappointing that Conway and McCrorie also don’t seem to have played well in their final game. Both off at 57 mins after going 4-0 down. They’ve both got a chance of call ups too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Shankland, again, dropping really deep today. He had one half chance from outside the box towards the end and sent it way over. Not the best time to be out of form but I know that can change quickly. Plus, Hearts almost certainly have 3rd place sealed so there is something a bit dead rubbersish about their games now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Tam Cairney on 2nd half in a shit game. He looked composed and made a couple of chances but no stand out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 7 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: Shankland, again, dropping really deep today. He had one half chance from outside the box towards the end and sent it way over. Not the best time to be out of form but I know that can change quickly. Plus, Hearts almost certainly have 3rd place sealed so there is something a bit dead rubbersish about their games now. Sounded like he missed a sitter in the first minute, played Kyogo onside for the first goal, then gave the penalty away for the third. Not a great day in the office for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 7 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Sounded like he missed a sitter in the first minute, played Kyogo onside for the first goal, then gave the penalty away for the third. Not a great day in the office for him. He did give away the penalty, yes. I'm not that bothered about that really. I started watching ten minutes in so I didn't see the first chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: Sounded like he missed a sitter in the first minute, played Kyogo onside for the first goal, then gave the penalty away for the third. Not a great day in the office for him. 1st minute he was involved in a good move, ball got cut back to him and he hit the target. CCV blocked the shot but he was one of maybe 3 celtic defenders and the GK to try and beat so was more like a half chance than a sitter. He was on the post for the Celtic goal so hardly to blame for playing somebody onside. Penalty was a bad one. Think he threw his hand up to protect his face but ball actually wasnt hitting it. Clark made lots of good saves but imo was to blame for Celtics 2nd goal. Long ball forward, was always going to land inside his box but he stayed on 6 yard box and was in no mans land when the shot was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy C Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Excellent assist from the Doig-ster just there, Sassuolo leading Inter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 5/1/2024 at 9:27 PM, ceudmilefailte said: Let’s continue our seven games without a win run. We might scrape out of the group stage and Clarke will become a national treasure but we could also go another seven games without a win. Feel sorry for Clarke the way things are looking, but anyone who thinks he played Ferguson and Shankland enough or tried out all his positional options in our last seven games has their head in the sand. Very accurate 👍🏾 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilmourFan Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Gilmour vs McGinn. Hopefully both away unscathed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immcinto Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, GilmourFan said: Gilmour vs McGinn. Hopefully both away unscathed. Brighton fans singing "You're just a sh*t Billy Gilmour" after McGinn misplaces a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRoy Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Jarrell Quansah starts for Liverpool today, RCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRoy Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/4/2024 at 1:21 PM, syecosse said: Liam Palmer again on the scoresheet. Not anywhere near the same dynamism as Hickey or Paterson, but I'd be playing him at RB or RWB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilmourFan Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, immcinto said: Brighton fans singing "You're just a sh*t Billy Gilmour" after McGinn misplaces a pass. lol McGinn is wasted playing as a 6. Villa barely laid a glove on Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Robbo 👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiScotsman Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, LoganRoy said: Jarrell Quansah starts for Liverpool today, RCH. Blimey, didn't know he was eligible for Scotland. Not too sure what to make of him. Sometimes looks good and composed on the ball but can have the odd occasional brain fart moment. Early days still I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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