kumnio Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, vanderark14 said: It's like they want to lose this next election Cleverly is a horrible piece of shit I think what's worse is that they think this will go down well with the public, like its a big hey look what we are doing. Id like to think that even most Tory voters would look at this and think hang on a minute. They are in effect trying to kill the NHS, then they can open it to the 'free market' and fuck all of us all of the time. Little England is going to strop the whole of this damned UK, I dread that we will be a part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, vanderark14 said: It's like they want to lose this next election Cleverly is a horrible piece of shit They dont even get free NHS themselves. If overseas care workers want to use the NHS they need to pay an annual surcharge of £1035. Fantastic perk of the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Meanwhile Sunak tackles the big issues of kids having mobile phones in class 😆 ...and does an Alan Partridge style meeting with the farmers 😄The first PM to address the NFU since Brown in 2008. Wonder if Sunak has ever met any other Unions. The Tories don't like folk sticking together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Meanwhile Sunak tackles the big issues of kids having mobile phones in class 😆 As far as education is concerned it is a big issue. I'd be very happy if they just got banned. They are toxic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 hours ago, Orraloon said: It will be interesting to see how the two Scottish Labour MPs vote on this. I have a feeling they will vote with Sir Keir or abstain. If Sarwar can't control his two Scottish Labour MPs then how is he expecting us to believe that he can "hold Sir Keir to account" Looks like Labour are now going to back the SNP motion. Labour's unconditional support for Israel has cost innocent lives. Their labelling of any criticism of Israel as anti semitic has helped enable Netanyahu and the right wingers in his Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: Looks like Labour are now going to back the SNP motion. Looks more likely they will abstain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 33 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Looks more likely they will abstain Let's hope some of them have a backbone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Top story on BBC website at present: Prince William has called for an "end to the fighting as soon as possible", in a strongly worded intervention on the Israel-Gaza conflict. Wow! Literally who cares. And what exactly will his 'strongly worded intervention' achieve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich NATA Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On the subject of Cleverly... 17 minutes of your time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 hours ago, Rich NATA said: On the subject of Cleverly... 17 minutes of your time... This should be a speech in the House of Commons. He gets a good example of the response the govt are hoping for with this policy "...designed to appeal to the brain dead or the vicious...or both..." No idea what % of folk in England think like that but I suppose the election will tell us. So many policies based on deterrent or ill thought out 'common sense' but they never have the promised effect; just make lives harder which is the desired effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 23 hours ago, kumnio said: I think what's worse is that they think this will go down well with the public, like its a big hey look what we are doing. Id like to think that even most Tory voters would look at this and think hang on a minute. They are in effect trying to kill the NHS, then they can open it to the 'free market' and fuck all of us all of the time. Little England is going to strop the whole of this damned UK, I dread that we will be a part of it. James Cleverly should be renamed James Sleekitly. He was making up pish the other day about Scotland hosting half as many asylum seekers as England, which was debunked here: He's clearly trying to engender a sense amongst the good people of England that they have a raw deal, so vote Tory to ensure the slacking Scots pull their weight. Combined with last week's stupid statement from that Labour think-tank guy about sending people-smuggling gangs to some unspecified location in Scotland by barge, it's clear that not only does WM require our natural resources and tax revenues, it also needs our space. 21 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: ...and does an Alan Partridge style meeting with the farmers 😄The first PM to address the NFU since Brown in 2008. Wonder if Sunak has ever met any other Unions. The Tories don't like folk sticking together... Let's hope for his sake they don't set any giant chickens on him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 19 minutes ago, scotlad said: Let's hope for his sake they don't set any giant chickens on him! 😄 Chris Morris is quite convincing as the farmer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 The way the WM pantomime is going today they'll be lucky to get a 30% turnout at the election. Hoyle fannying around to keep the UK chain of command, Sunak ignoring his questions, Badenoch still in a job, Trident £££ just lands into the sea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 12 minutes ago, StirlingEgg said: The way the WM pantomime is going today they'll be lucky to get a 30% turnout at the election. Hoyle fannying around to keep the UK chain of command, Sunak ignoring his questions, Badenoch still in a job, Trident £££ just lands into the sea... We are more likely to be hit by one of our own nukes than one of Putins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Perfect opportunity for The SNP to walk out - Unsurprisingly they never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Perfect opportunity for The SNP to walk out - Unsurprisingly they never NEW: Top Commons clerk’s advice to Lindsay Hoyle revealed. Tom Goldsmith, clerk of the House, says Speaker’s decision “represents a departure from the long-established convention for dealing with such amendments on Opposition days, governed by Standing Order No. 31”. I’ve been sent a copy that says there are 2 examples in last 25 years where an opposition amendment has been moved on another opposition party’s motion - “however, in those few circumstances, no government amendment had been tabled” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: 😄 Chris Morris is quite convincing as the farmer! "...a big, posh sod...with plumbs in your mouth!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 The is just corruption, pure and simple. "Senior Labour figures have told BBC Newsnight that the commons speaker Sir Lyndsay Hoyle was left in no doubt that Labour was prepared to see him fall as speaker after the general election unless he called its Gaza amendment. Newsnight has been told that it was made clear that Hoyle would need Labour votes to be re-elected after the general election and this might not be forthcoming. That would effectively mean he would lose the speakership." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 40 minutes ago, Orraloon said: The is just corruption, pure and simple. "Senior Labour figures have told BBC Newsnight that the commons speaker Sir Lyndsay Hoyle was left in no doubt that Labour was prepared to see him fall as speaker after the general election unless he called its Gaza amendment. Newsnight has been told that it was made clear that Hoyle would need Labour votes to be re-elected after the general election and this might not be forthcoming. That would effectively mean he would lose the speakership." Starmer has clearly leaned on Hoyle. Another golden opportunity for the SNP to get tore into Sarwar, Murray, Shanks, Baillie etc al. But there won't be a cheep. Imagine senior SNP figures did this to Lorna Slater in Holyrood. It wouldn't be off the front pages for weeks with demands for sackings resignations. If anyone thinks we are living in a democracy they are off their rocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: The is just corruption, pure and simple. "Senior Labour figures have told BBC Newsnight that the commons speaker Sir Lyndsay Hoyle was left in no doubt that Labour was prepared to see him fall as speaker after the general election unless he called its Gaza amendment. Newsnight has been told that it was made clear that Hoyle would need Labour votes to be re-elected after the general election and this might not be forthcoming. That would effectively mean he would lose the speakership." Daft bugger may have cut short his career even further... https://www.thenational.scot/news/24134701.snp-tories-look-oust-lindsay-hoyle-speaker/ Edited February 21 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 SNP MPs have walked out At fucking last Don't go back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) Vote begins on whether to sit in private A half-empty Chamber is now trying to decide whether to continue the sitting in private. That's a very rare move and last happened by accident more than two decades ago, in 2001. It means all members of the public must leave, broadcasting of proceedings ends, and the official record Hansard does not produce a transcript of what MPs say. However, the results of decisions is published. Edited February 21 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: SNP MPs have walked out At fucking last Don't go back Hoyle:s the worst speaker in my lifetime by a long, long way. If there's any truth in the charge that he's been got at by Labour leadership he should be sacked, just shows the corruption of UK politics. SNP just need to be careful they're not seen as playing politics on such a critical issue as no doubt their opponents will spin it. The SNP are the only ones who've been consistent on this from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: Hoyle:s the worst speaker in my lifetime by a long, long way. If there's any truth in the charge that he's been got at by Labour leadership he should be sacked, just shows the corruption of UK politics. SNP just need to be careful they're not seen as playing politics on such a critical issue as no doubt their opponents will spin it. The SNP are the only ones who've been consistent on this from the start. Think the BBC reported it wrongly - they are back as is Hoyle Joanna Cherry KC @joannaccherry I’ve just signed the motion of #NoConfidence in Speaker Hoyle. There’s no way back for him from this Edited February 21 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Absolute meltdown Flynn has just destroyed Hoyle and the Tories want the vote retaken so that the numbers of those in favour or against is recorded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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