vanderark14 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Israel claim to have drone footage to prove the hospital was bombed by an Islamist group 13 minutes ago, Mitre said: One thing I'm uncomfortable about in this whole sorry situation is who do you believe to tell the truth? Hamas? The Palestinian Authority? The IDF? Netanyahu? Kay Burley? Jeremy Bowen? CNN? Al Jazeera? I wouldn't trust any of them for various reasons. Hamas will blame IDF, IDF will blame Hamas for any atrocity committed. The result is = no one is held accountable. The West......................sorry I mean the UK and Yanks should be doing everything they can to calm this situation down but instead they are holding firm on the side of Israel. Its almost like they want to escalate this war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Israel claim to have drone footage to prove the hospital was bombed by an Islamist group Hamas will blame IDF, IDF will blame Hamas for any atrocity committed. The result is = no one is held accountable. The West......................sorry I mean the UK and Yanks should be doing everything they can to calm this situation down but instead they are holding firm on the side of Israel. Its almost like they want to escalate this war A sorry state of affairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, Mitre said: One thing I'm uncomfortable about in this whole sorry situation is who do you believe to tell the truth? Hamas? The Palestinian Authority? The IDF? Netanyahu? Kay Burley? Jeremy Bowen? CNN? Al Jazeera? I wouldn't trust any of them for various reasons. Yeh I am usually sympathetic to the Palestinian cause but it's a cluster fuck of trying to figure out who's telling the truth. Starting to think they are all full of shit and will say anything. Either way it's looking grim for that area of the world. The likes of Iran and Hezbollah look ready to jump in which could cause a global conflict if America decides to back up Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: . The West......................sorry I mean the UK and Yanks should be doing everything they can to calm this situation down but instead they are holding firm on the side of Israel. Its almost like they want to escalate this war its hard to argue with that.. Quick google on role of ambassador. Even on a basic level. Refer back to Exhibit A you posted , the video of Ambassador to the UK. Why on earth would you have such a highly strung, dismissive and aggressive person in a position of power requiring excessive diplomacy ? I can completely understand people becoming passionate but someone in that position should be display far more control. Edited October 18, 2023 by TDYER63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mitre said: One thing I'm uncomfortable about in this whole sorry situation is who do you believe to tell the truth? Hamas? The Palestinian Authority? The IDF? Netanyahu? Kay Burley? Jeremy Bowen? CNN? Al Jazeera? I wouldn't trust any of them for various reasons. That’s exactly how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Mitre said: One thing I'm uncomfortable about in this whole sorry situation is who do you believe to tell the truth? Hamas? The Palestinian Authority? The IDF? Netanyahu? Kay Burley? Jeremy Bowen? CNN? Al Jazeera? I wouldn't trust any of them for various reasons. That is a very good point mate. In saying that, From what I have seen, Isra l are playing the victim and the news media are going along with it.. It's heartbreaking to witness what is happening. I won't change my mind though, my hate for Israel is mounting. I know enough on this to know that Palestine is the victim here. My worry is if Iran and Lebanon get involved. That's what that fucktard Biden is hoping for, as he also has his head buried up the Zionists arse.. My 15 year old son was asking me yesterday to explain what Hamas is, who the IDF is, who is to blame, why are they fighting. He was even looking at a map of the middle east. Imagine, my 15 year old son, who should be focused on his studies and his basketball team.... It's all so sad any way you look at it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Imagine, my 15 year old son, who should be focused on his studies and his basketball team.... If he play’s basketball I hope he’s a lot taller than you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Liking this guy, hes absolutely schooled Morgan Edited October 18, 2023 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, aaid said: If he play’s basketball I hope he’s a lot taller than you are. 😂😂😂, he is 6"1, no joke... My wife's da was over 6", so there you have it. I cannae even play basketball..😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: 😂😂😂, he is 6"1, no joke... My wife's da was over 6", so there you have it. I cannae even play basketball..😂😂😂 🤣 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Liking this guy, hes absolutely schooled Morgan Brilliant, this guy knows the craic and the truth. Morgan is a fuckin puppet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orraloon said: 🤣 🤣 I meant "feet" smartarse.. Fuckin typos..😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Liking this guy, hes absolutely schooled Morgan Okay, was driving my wife to work, pulled over and listened to the entire interview. You are correct VA.. Morgan was schooled and was in way over his head with this dude.. Everyone who is following this thread should listen to that interview... Total respect for this lads knowledge, honesty, and sense of humour....👍👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Liking this guy, hes absolutely schooled Morgan Ta for posting that.& it is true to ask why Israel allowed the attacks to happen. prime minister question time today simply emphasised how our government, like many, has a total disconnect from the vast majority of the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: That is a very good point mate. In saying that, From what I have seen, Isra l are playing the victim and the news media are going along with it.. It's heartbreaking to witness what is happening. I won't change my mind though, my hate for Israel is mounting. I know enough on this to know that Palestine is the victim here. My worry is if Iran and Lebanon get involved. That's what that fucktard Biden is hoping for, as he also has his head buried up the Zionists arse.. To be fair it is looking more like a friendly fire incident. The Israelis have presented "proof" but then again who do you believe? Hamas and PIJ will just blame Israel even if it was their wonky ordinance and vice versa with the IDF denials. One thing for certain is that it's the regular punter on the street that pays the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Jo Biden just letting us know we’re gonna suffer whatever Isreal wishes. they are the victims. Always have been , are and always will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, TDYER63 said: its hard to argue with that.. Quick google on role of ambassador. Even on a basic level. Refer back to Exhibit A you posted , the video of Ambassador to the UK. Why on earth would you have such a highly strung, dismissive and aggressive person in a position of power requiring excessive diplomacy ? I can completely understand people becoming passionate but someone in that position should be display far more control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mitre said: To be fair it is looking more like a friendly fire incident. The Israelis have presented "proof" but then again who do you believe? Hamas and PIJ will just blame Israel even if it was their wonky ordinance and vice versa with the IDF denials. One thing for certain is that it's the regular punter on the street that pays the price. Truth is not the first casualty of war. I can't see what good the attack on the hospital does for Israel. If it was deliberate, they lose any sympathy. On the other hand I believe that the Israelis haven't denied hitting the hospital a few days previously. The first casualty of war is always innocent people but truth comes hot on its heels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67140471 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/reel/981717752918962?mibextid=9drbnH Hard man aye !!!! This is happening all over the world now unfortunately...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: https://www.facebook.com/reel/981717752918962?mibextid=9drbnH Hard man aye !!!! This is happening all over the world now unfortunately...... I just watched this again. Those are students he assaulted. I'm gonnae be honest here, fuck it. I would have said Palestine several times then lamped that cunt. Who do folk think they are walking about threatening innocent people who are trying to raise money for a country that is being bombed to fuck !!!!!! 🤬🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/us-vetoes-un-call-for-humanitarian-pause-and-corridors-into-gaza I detest the UK and US even more than I ever did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 With my knowledge of bombs, rockets, explosions etc being at a massive 1%, I may not exactly be qualified to make a binding decision over the hospital attack. However, it looks like claims that 500 people died there are made up, the impact is tiny and has resulted in a small fire and explosion. As I implied, in my expert option, it looks like a small rocket has landed there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/us-vetoes-un-call-for-humanitarian-pause-and-corridors-into-gaza I detest the UK and US even more than I ever did. We always go off on one when Russia or China do something like this. The US history on the veto is appalling, while we aren't much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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