Dave78 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, aaid said: What's wrong with Kirsty Blackman? 7 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Why don't you like Kirsty Blackman ? I think she does OK. Ach, i wouldn't say i'd be totally against her being the WM leader. I'm just basing my opinion on the TV interviews and debate performances i've seen her in. I seem to have some memory of her missing open goals, or not adequately defending attacks by pointing out something or other. I think i remember having one of those talk-out-loud-at-the-telly 'why didn't you mention X' moments while watching her. Maybe she'd be great, but i imagine nobody will measure up to Robertson. Edited November 9, 2019 by Dave78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Dave78 said: Ach, i wouldn't say i'd be totally against her being the WM leader. I'm just basing my opinion on the TV interviews and debate performances i've seen her in. I seem to have some memory of her missing open goals, or not adequately defending attacks by pointing out something or other. I think i remember having one of those talk-out-loud-at-the-telly 'why didn't you mention X' moments while watching her. Maybe she'd be great, but i imagine nobody will measure up to Robertson. She is much nicer on the eye than either of them which is something which should never be underestimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Orraloon said: She is much nicer on the eye than either of them which is something which should never be underestimated. 🙄 . If I am Marge then you must be Fred Flintstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: 🙄 . If I am Marge then you must be Fred Flintstone. I'm much smarter than Fred. More like Baby Puss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: So are the tories not standing a candidate in blackfords constituency? Someone called Gavin Berkenheger apparently. No idea about him. This guy by the looks of things. http://greenoregold.com/about-us/management/ Edited November 10, 2019 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, aaid said: Someone called Gavin Berkenheger apparently. No idea about him. This guy by the looks of things. http://greenoregold.com/about-us/management/ 🤔 A gold explorer standing a Tory candidate. Who would have thought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: 🤔 A gold explorer standing a Tory candidate. Who would have thought it. Why does Frank McAvennie and his treasure hunt spring to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, aaid said: Why does Frank McAvennie and his treasure hunt spring to mind 😀 aye, when the police find 10 gold bars in the boot of his car he will insist he dug them out the Fairy Pools that very morning . M’laud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Top totty for @kumnio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 If blackford was to lose his seat we would need someone who definitely doesn't come across patronising and smug, i would like someone with a sense of humour in there who is also thinks quick on their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I have to admit that there must be better than Blackford Even Hosie was streets ahead of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 A bit young I know but Mhairi Black would suit a leader's role. She commands respect and is passionate about Scotland and independence and is sharp as a tack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Just as an odd aside, sort of a trivia question, Huddersfield Tories have selected 78-year-old Ken Davy (owner of the local Rugby League team & ex-owner of Huddersfield Town) as their candidate to challenge 79-year-old Barry Sheerman. I’d love to know if there’s any other recent examples of the two main candidates for a Parliamentary seat having a combined age of over 150? Edited November 11, 2019 by Huddersfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 38 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: If blackford was to lose his seat we would need someone who definitely doesn't come across patronising and smug, i would like someone with a sense of humour in there who is also thinks quick on their feet. We still talking about politicians here, aye? Good luck finding one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Huddersfield said: Just as an odd aside, sort of a trivia question, Huddersfield Tories have selected 78-year-old Ken Davy (owner of the local Rugby League team & ex-owner of Huddersfield Town) as their candidate to challenge 79-year-old Barry Sheerman. I’d love to know if there’s any other recent examples of the two main candidates for a Parliamentary seat having a combined age of over 150? Don't know about that, but there are some folk who would've been in their 120s who are still voting for Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Farage shitting himself. Not standing against Tory incumbents, will only stand in seats held by other parties Cue the pictures of Johnson in Farage's pocket. Edit. To be totally correct, they won't stand in the 317 seats the Tories won in 2017, so that includes those held by people who were either kicked out or left. Edited November 11, 2019 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, aaid said: Farage shitting himself. Not standing against Tory incumbents, will only stand in seats held by other parties Cue the pictures of Johnson in Farage's pocket. Would that not be the other way round? Farage will be helping Boris win and getting nothing in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 That just beggars the question of why does the Brexit Party exist? Obviously, they were set up as a means to ensure/force a No Deal and complete exit from the EU. Since Boris' deal is certainly neither of them and Brexit Party refuse to stand in Tory held constituencies then they are totally going against their reason for being. Unless, of course, they know or have been told something by the Tories that we haven't yet. I mean, a thought here, Boris' deal has virtually been flung on the rubbish tip so what happens if (as looks a good possibility) the Tories win a majority and try to push through a new No Deal Brexit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Would that not be the other way round? Farage will be helping Boris win and getting nothing in return. That might be true but I'm sure that's not the way it'll be portrayed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, aaid said: That might be true but I'm sure that's not the way it'll be portrayed Aye, probably. As Craig said, maybe there has been a secret deal done that we won't find out about until after the election. Seems the most logical explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: I have to admit that there must be better than Blackford Even Hosie was streets ahead of him Phillipa Whitford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: I have to admit that there must be better than Blackford Even Hosie was streets ahead of him I actually voted for blackford for leader, that was a mistake, he is a good mp for his constituents however his role as leader has put a target on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Aye, probably. As Craig said, maybe there has been a secret deal done that we won't find out about until after the election. Seems the most logical explanation. The Tories certainly seem to be doing the best to give the impression that there's been no deal done but without unequivocally denying it. Presumably Farage's best outcome is a Tory minority government but with enough BXP MPs to hold the balance of power as the DUP did in the last parliament. Second best is probably a Tory majority. The calculation is obviously that by not standing in Tory seats they'll maximise the chances of the Tories being the largest party as the Leave vote in these constituencies would not be split However, I'm not sure it's so simple. While you'd expect most - probably all - BXP supporters to vote Tory in this case, what about soft-Remain Tories - who are a minority but significant nonetheless - will they be put off by this apparent alliance with Farage. As an example, for example. Look at Thurrock currently held by a Tory but a Labour target seat in a leave voting area. The majority is 345 but in the last GE UKIP got over 10000 votes, so you'd expect that to be won by the Tories. On the other hand Chipping Barnet in London - and a Remain voting constituency has a majority of 353. There was no UKIP candidate in 2017, however in 2015, they polled 4000 votes. On the surface they should win if you total the Tory and UKIP votes but you have to consider that there will be a defection of Remain Tories, whether it will be enough and to Labour remains to be seen. i think that this election unlike any other really is 650 individual elections and probably in a couple of hundred or so the result is up in the air due to the specific demographics of the constituency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, aaid said: Farage shitting himself. Not standing against Tory incumbents, will only stand in seats held by other parties Cue the pictures of Johnson in Farage's pocket. Edit. To be totally correct, they won't stand in the 317 seats the Tories won in 2017, so that includes those held by people who were either kicked out or left. Such a pitty, the whole northeast was a stick on to return yellow, now i am not so sure, if the brexit party is not standing the tories willl now be seen as the “Brexit party” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 How the fook does Farage get away with his shit. Less than a week ago he spouting off ‘Johnsons deal is not Brexit’ ,’ His Brexit deal is rotten. However today he is saying that ‘ Johnson is proposing a Brexit that sounded like the option that the British people voted for’ . The guy is a cad and a bounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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