phart Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 hours ago, DoonTheSlope said: Shamima Begum should be rescued from the Syria as a matter of urgency. she should brought back to the UK and welcomed with open arms and should be given free council housing and there should be no expense spared when it comes to rehabilitation which should include a college placement while re-integrating her into society 👍🏻 I've posted this word for word on an Mixed Martial Arts forum which is full of Trump supporters and they're going mental about this. I'll let you know how unpopular an opinion it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, phart said: I've posted this word for word on an Mixed Martial Arts forum which is full of Trump supporters and they're going mental about this. I'll let you know how unpopular an opinion it is. No doubt they're very keen to deport loads of foreign criminals at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, aaid said: No doubt they're very keen to deport loads of foreign criminals at the same time. Eh? I can't think of anyone who would argue against deporting foreign criminals (after they have served their term of course). Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Tommy Wright is f*cking hopeless. Just trying to ressurect Ormond 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 hours ago, thplinth said: Eh? I can't think of anyone who would argue against deporting foreign criminals (after they have served their term of course). Bizarre. Depends what you mean by foreign criminal. Someone who moved here as a kid and got done for not having a TV licence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 7 hours ago, exile said: Depends what you mean by foreign criminal. Someone who moved here as a kid and got done for not having a TV licence? It's a comment on the hypocrisy of people who don't want British people who've gone abroad and done bad things to be able to return because they represent a danger to society and yet want to be able to deport foreign people who've done bad things here for exactly the same reason. Views that were pretty widely expressed yesterday in various media outlets. Same mindset as ex-pat Brits who don't realise that freedom of movement applies to them as well. FWIW, I have very little sympathy for her and the situation she finds herself in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 We do have to take her back though. Sort of obliged too. Look at the Sun today Headline FORGET IT Jihadi bride Shamima Begum’s family demand Government bring her home ‘where she belongs’ claiming ‘she’s pregnant and vulnerable’ Story THE family of a jihadi bride has begged the Government to let the teen return home to the UK "where she belongs". Also check the background of the journalist who is the source of all this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Loyd Just finished uni then off his own steam went to bosnia during the war to take pictures then just fell into a job by chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Ive heard a lot of absolute nonsense about her from both sides, she is either a terrorist who is an imminent danger to the UK, or a poor child victim who has been trafficked. She is a British citizen who went abroad, and signed up for something that most people would think is pretty unsavoury. When she returns, she should face relevant charges, and be dealt with accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Isis probably gets financial and military support from the UK anyway and this story is receiving a fair bit of mainstream media time so who knows what’s really going on. Some ex mi6 director is even writing in the guardian about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Ceelo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Hypothetical question, bring her "Home" put a suicide bomb on her and invite her to houses of parliament/Buck palace or MI5...would she set it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Richard DawkinsVerified account @RichardDawkins She’s OK with severed heads – they were “enemies of Islam.” In same breath, she wants UK to accept her. Legally she has a case. Morally she should go to an Islamic Republic. But maybe doesn’t want to be arrested for driving, singing, dancing, talking to an unrelated male, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Richard DawkinsVerified account @RichardDawkins She’s OK with severed heads – they were “enemies of Islam.” In same breath, she wants UK to accept her. Legally she has a case. Morally she should go to an Islamic Republic. But maybe doesn’t want to be arrested for driving, singing, dancing, talking to an unrelated male, etc. I'm guessing that's a Twitter quote which as far as I understand has got a letter count limit. Regardless, if that's the standard of insight of one of our great intellectuals I really should start posting more stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: I'm guessing that's a Twitter quote which as far as I understand has got a letter count limit. Regardless, if that's the standard of insight of one of our great intellectuals I really should start posting more stuff. expand please or state what's wrong or not insightful with that opinion Edited February 16, 2019 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: expand please or state what's wrong or not insightful with that opinion OK. For a start she was 15 ( legally a child in the uk i think) when she went off to Syria. She'd presumably been indoctrinated/brainwashed into the Muslim faith from birth as all religions do. Her desire to be part of an Islamic paradise was no different to that of a Jewish, Hindu Christian, etc....... As far as the severed heads bit goes, he's implying that she's Ok with that as a means to an end. The same way that the western world is happy with unbelievable grinding poverty and exploitation for cheap t-shirts an mobile phones (and to be honest there is probably some severed heads and worse goes on for that stuff to happen as well). So to sum it up, a pregnant brainwashed explioted child, doesn't figure in Mr Dawkins 'analysis'. Oh, and she doesn't have a case to be a UK national, she is a UK national. (Probs not the right terms but you get the gist). Edited February 16, 2019 by Eisegerwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 She is like that religious idiot who went to that island and died and you laughed about it. Ha ha. Maybe if she gets back you could invite her round to yours for some raw lung and burning some animals alive in cages in your back garden while you pick apples and talk a heap of shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, thplinth said: She is like that religious idiot who went to that island and died and you laughed about it. Ha ha. Maybe if she gets back you could invite her round to yours for some raw lung and burning some animals alive in cages in your back garden while you pick apples and talk a heap of shite. Yeah, the island boy was funny. Prefer to keep religious loonies at arms length thanks, almost as far wierd stalky internet types. Winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Yeah, the island boy was funny. Prefer to keep religious loonies at arms length thanks, almost as far wierd stalky internet types. Winning. ohhh made a rod for your own back there. Scotty must find that funny. The clock is now running... how long will it be before you cant help yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Doesnt seem all that brainwashed to me and zero regrets by the sounds She is only wanting back because the Caliphate wasnt what she expected - not that she doesnt believe in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, thplinth said: ohhh made a rod for your own back there. Scotty must find that funny. The clock is now running... how long will it be before you cant help yourself. Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 "Doesnt seem all that brainwashed to me and zero regrets by the sounds She is only wanting back because the Caliphate wasnt what she expected - not that she doesnt believe in it" I didn't quote your post cos I didn't want to add to her exposure so I posted it in italics like we used to do with Sinn Fein when they were on the telly. My point was that Mr Dawkins was only really playing to the gallery there was no insight into what he was saying. I think by defintion, if you are 'brainwashed', you will have no regrets about what you have experienced. you will stay faithfull to your beliefs. I think if you do not have some fixed religious/ spirtual belief, your experiences will define you beliefs, end of. Can I be one of the great thinkers of our time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Eisegerwind said: "Doesnt seem all that brainwashed to me and zero regrets by the sounds She is only wanting back because the Caliphate wasnt what she expected - not that she doesnt believe in it" I didn't quote your post cos I didn't want to add to her exposure so I posted it in italics like we used to do with Sinn Fein when they were on the telly. My point was that Mr Dawkins was only really playing to the gallery there was no insight into what he was saying. I think by defintion, if you are 'brainwashed', you will have no regrets about what you have experienced. you will stay faithfull to your beliefs. I think if you do not have some fixed religious/ spirtual belief, your experiences will define you beliefs, end of. Can I be one of the great thinkers of our time? Guess the issue is when your religious beliefs extend to actions that harm others. But shes British so what can you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Lovely weather we're having for the time of year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Och Aye said: Lovely weather we're having for the time of year It is. Was only commenting on that the other day, we've beat winter again, and not even had any proper bad weather. Mid Feb, another couple of weeks and it's spring, the flowers will start blooming the garden birds will be coupling and nesting, the days getting perceptibily longer, oh joy. 17 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Can I be one of the great thinkers of our time? Edited February 17, 2019 by Eisegerwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Guess the issue is when your religious beliefs extend to actions that harm others. But shes British so what can you do? Guess the issue is when your religious beliefs are a made up load of pish whether it harms others is a bit subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Eisegerwind said: Guess the issue is when your religious beliefs are a made up load of pish whether it harms others is a bit subjective. True but the law should be separate from religions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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