Squirrelhumper Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Rossy said: Maybe. I think that maybe Robertson is a better defender at this moment in time. I also belief that a case could even be made for Lee Wallace being better defensively. I beg to differ. Defensively Robertson is naive IMO. Head also goes down far too easily. Wallace erm, just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 To be honest. Robertson and Tierney are both good left backs. someone mentioned Kingsley but I would play him at centre half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfadden11 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Tierney is a better defender and Robertson is better going forward for me. My plan would have been to play Robertson against Lithuania and Tierney against Slovakia which just happened to be forced upon us anyway. Edited October 20, 2016 by Mcfadden11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Tierney is the most incisive tackler we've had in many a long year. His forward play is a bonus. If managers want to overcommit him in attack, it's their problem not his. If he's not ready for international football, then we don't have a single player who is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: . If he's not ready for international football, then we don't have a single player who is. A few people on here think Kenny Miller is.......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I would like one of them to play on the opposite side to see how that would work out. it used to be quite common for a strong left back to play on the right in order to provide the cutting in option when attacking. just need to be sure either Tierney or Roberston can defend on the opposite side. if they can, then we would have two full backs for the next 10 years sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 31 minutes ago, Return of Yermaw said: I would like one of them to play on the opposite side to see how that would work out. it used to be quite common for a strong left back to play on the right in order to provide the cutting in option when attacking. just need to be sure either Tierney or Roberston can defend on the opposite side. if they can, then we would have two full backs for the next 10 years sorted out. In the 1970s our standard full backs were Sandy Jardine and Danny McGrain both of who were notionally right backs, with McGrain playing on the left as he was equally as comfortable on that flank. Neither Robertson nor Tierney are a Jardine or a McGrain though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 On 19/10/2016 at 10:25 PM, KennyMiller said: With England coming up we need a physical left back who'll kick shit out of Walcott. Have you thought about applying for a job in the Scotland youth set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Tierney lb and robertson lm would be ideal for me, both good going forward and robertson could provide cover no problem if tierney is further upfield. Tierney is probably the better defender for me hence why i would have him at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Martin and Hanley have played together how long? We have lost goals against Gibralter, Malta, Slovakia, Georgia, Lithuania....etc etc. We lose goals from free kicks, corners, open play.... it is awful. Who does Strachan have in his backroom staff that is a proven international player with experience to organise and structure defences? No Colin Hendry, no Davie Weir, no Richard Gough, Alan Hansen, Willie Miller, Alex McLeish, roy aitken, danny mcgrain, .... it is so obvious he needs to bring someone in who can organise the defence and assess players strengths. We have Strachan because of a support that chanted his name after beating Gibralter in Portugal...he should have been sacked how many other managers kept their jobs after failing to qualify for the Euros? Strachan plays zonal when it does not work....he man marks when it should be zonal.....he never protects his posts and never runs out at free kicks only some of his failings.......he plays players out of position, players who are not match fit, and omits in form players Wallace, Mcormack, Berra, Bardsley, George Boyd, Armfield, Charlie Adam, Griffiths, Dorrans.....he then plays young guys like Burke for two games then banishes them....... how awful to treat a young guy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Arguably players worse or of a similar standard to Martin and Hanley haven't looked as weak as they do that the moment. In both games there the whole team looked unprepared and tactically naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Arguably players worse or of a similar standard to Martin and Hanley haven't looked as weak as they do that the moment. In both games there the whole team looked unprepared and tactically naive. Exactly....no organisation, tactically inept, and bad choices of players.....why Fletcher when so unfit? why Snodgrass out of position? why no Griffiths when on fire? Why Hanley when Berra so fit and active Hanley not? its awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 14 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Arguably players worse or of a similar standard to Martin and Hanley haven't looked as weak as they do that the moment. In both games there the whole team looked unprepared and tactically naive. A lot of people thought that Alex Miller was the main reason for Craig Browns success and I am pretty sure he was a defensive coach at Liverpool. Perhaps he could sort them out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) Well about time somebody came in cause Strachan does not have a clue it was also his downfall at celtic and southampton.....canny believe somebody has not picked up on it and done something.......goals we lost against Poland, Germany and Ireland were defensive mistakes.......against Georgia Gibralter malta and Lithunia schoolboy stuff, it needs sorted. Edited October 23, 2016 by bigfathagiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfaetheburgh Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said: Well about time somebody came in cause Strachan does not have a clue it was also his downfall at celtic and southampton.....canny believe somebody has not picked up on it and done something.......goals we lost against Poland, Germany and Ireland were defensive mistakes.......against Georgia Gibralter malta and Lithunia schoolboy stuff, it needs sorted. Since wee ginger picks scottish championship players, whats wrong with looking at big Steven Ando from Perth Saints in there, far better defender than Hanley and while they are at it, Swanson is in the form of his life, especially when you see the likes of Barry square ball Bannan getting in there, and big Zander Clark is a top keeper in the making, but is never going to happen as Gordie only likes players from big clubs and so called big leagues, in his small narrow mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, Malfaetheburgh said: Since wee ginger picks scottish championship players, whats wrong with looking at big Steven Ando from Perth Saints in there, far better defender than Hanley and while they are at it, Swanson is in the form of his life, especially when you see the likes of Barry square ball Bannan getting in there, and big Zander Clark is a top keeper in the making, but is never going to happen as Gordie only likes players from big clubs and so called big leagues, in his small narrow mind. Strachan said in an interview before the Lithuania game that he was delighted to have 4 or 5 Scottish players in the first 11 at Celtic.....he never started 1 He's too busy trying to get one over the media, that's OK if your winning games but not if you haven't qualified for 20 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 He looks good but I would stick with Robertson just now. Be interesting to see who wins the battle for the number 3 shirt over the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Be interesting who's left back at Wembley cause Robertson is out injured for 8 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, noctonjock said: Be interesting who's left back at Wembley cause Robertson is out injured for 8 weeks Well according to Rossy Wallace is better defensively. Thankfully he is totally clueless and Wallace won't be picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 On 20/10/2016 at 2:25 PM, Rossy said: Maybe. I think that maybe Robertson is a better defender at this moment in time. I also belief that a case could even be made for Lee Wallace being better defensively. Almost as if Rossy is a secret Rangers fan. Or is he just out of his depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Robertson is brilliant going forward, but taking into account how bad our central defence is we need full backs who can defend. maybe Kingsley fits the bill better than anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 We're not defending well from the front and both full backs, especially left side have been badly let down by the midfield in terms of support and protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 9 hours ago, Armitage Shanks said: Well according to Rossy Wallace is better defensively. Thankfully he is totally clueless and Wallace won't be picked. 8 hours ago, Armitage Shanks said: Almost as if Rossy is a secret Rangers fan. Or is he just out of his depth? Do you have an opinion on Tierney or just a hardon for Rossy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Do you have an opinion on Tierney or just a hardon for Rossy? My opinion is he is a fantastic player. So is Robertson though. Shame the other 9 outfield positions we are weak in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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