McDange Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Finally published tomorrow apparently. Odds on Tony Blair getting his date in The Hague? Low I'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It'll be the most expensive, longest waste of time and money in the history of UK politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's apparently to appear here: http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 First Sealord (I think, missed the start) just interviewed on CH4 and pretty much revealed all and then told Jon Snow he had NEVER been interviewed at all by Chilcot ??FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 There isn't a snow balls chance in hell of Blair being held accountable for any of that mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: There isn't a snow balls chance in hell of Blair being held accountable for any of that mess Unless someone decides to take the law into their own hands.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1. There were no WMD of the type (Nuclear) that the West said existed. 2. That being said getting rid of Saddam Hussein was a good idea 3. Albeit a good idea nobody foresaw that after Saddam was ousted that a large proportion of Iraqis would start killing each other 4. In hindsight someone should have thought about 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: 1. There were no WMD of the type (Nuclear) that the West said existed. 2. That being said getting rid of Saddam Hussein was a good idea 3. Albeit a good idea nobody foresaw that after Saddam was ousted that a large proportion of Iraqis would start killing each other 4. In hindsight someone should have thought about 3 2. No it wasn't, not if you were Iraqi. 3. Yes they did forsee and also engineered it to be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: 2. No it wasn't, not if you were Iraqi. 3. Yes they did forsee and also engineered it to be that way. 2. Clearly you dont know the history of the Saddam regime 3. Nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The whole shambles was engineered. Fake intelligence about a meeting between Atta and Iraqi intelligence in Prague to hand over Anthrax. Fake intelligence about "yellow cake". An ambassador(Joseph Wilson) blew the whistle on the yellow cake, and his wife Valerie Plame was outed as a CIA agent in retribution. See the Plame Affair and bush on last day of office issuing pardons. The Anthrax was actually made in Ames America and was destroyed by the FBI. Douglas Feith office making up fake intelligence, see all the senate testimony on it. I can't be fecked arguing it all again. Look up Oded Yinon plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: 2. Clearly you dont know the history of the Saddam regime 3. Nonsense 2. Not an expert that's for sure but it must've been fcuking bad if it's worse than whats going on now. 3. Yeah, cos invading other countries never results in civil wars and the the invading country fkucing off with their resources, totally new phenomenon only observed in Iraq, that must've been when the phrase 'divide and rule' was coined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: 2. Not an expert that's for sure but it must've been fcuking bad if it's worse than whats going on now. 3. Yeah, cos invading other countries never results in civil wars and the the invading country fkucing off with their resources, totally new phenomenon only observed in Iraq, that must've been when the phrase 'divide and rule' was coined. 2. Yep - unless you want to defend tyranny 3. Invading other countries can result in an uprising against the invader yes but civil war of this type ? What we are seeing is a war within Islam What does it say about us when the argument that the only way that this war could have been kept under wraps was to keep Saddam in power is used ? There is far more to the current situation in the middle east than the duplicity of Blair and Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 50 minutes ago, phart said: The whole shambles was engineered. I think thats evidently clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Woah, how come when I say it was 'engineered', I get a 'nonsense', but when the 'cleverest man on the forum' says it was 'engineered' he gets a ' I think that's evidently clear', no fair, I object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Woah, how come when I say it was 'engineered', I get a 'nonsense', but when the 'cleverest man on the forum' says it was 'engineered' he gets a ' I think that's evidently clear', no fair, I object. The Iraq war was clearly engineered after the UN refused to give backing Engineering the Islamic Civil war that we are seeing now is debatable - i apologise for saying nonsense never mind not using IMO after saying it. Its undeniable that the West has been despicably playing Iraq and Iran against each other since the 60s but some blame must fall on the political and religious ongoings in these countries too - not forgetting Saudia Arabia. Edited July 5, 2016 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 22 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Woah, how come when I say it was 'engineered', I get a 'nonsense', but when the 'cleverest man on the forum' says it was 'engineered' he gets a ' I think that's evidently clear', no fair, I object. Don't hate the playa hate the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Glad I did a cheeky wee £20 Miranda and Hillary exoneration double with Sky Bet. Nothing to see here, move on... Yay! I win 79p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Also - Bush and Blair acted like vigilantes - if there's a fox getting at the chickens you don't just let your teenager and his mates nick the gun to shoot it, even if people are happy to see the back of the fox - so Bush and Blair weakened the UN and the sense the international community could take more legitimate action against other nations, ever since - specifically Blair put our troops in danger just to help Bush in some domestic election (sorry can't remember which) - lives were lost due to vanity and personal friendship - Blair by taking much of the 'left' (MPs) with him helped legitimised what would otherwise be seen as a gung-ho US expedition - weapons used on the US/UK side - rendition, torture, etc etc - 7/7 Edited July 6, 2016 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Found this article from the Telegraph online http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/investigations/tony-blairs-business-triples-profits-as-staff/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 What time is this going to be released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, Cove_Sheep said: What time is this going to be released? 11am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 He's had 7 years. You'd think he be able to start on time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 The Yorkshire PostVerified account@yorkshirepost Chilcot: Blair told Bush in Dec 2001 they needed a "clever plan" to get rid of Saddam. And in July 2002 "I'm with you, whatever." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Pretty damning for Blair so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 surprised at the severity of this so far. Some fairly damning blows on Blair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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