Cove_Sheep Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Ive seen it too, if correct the guy is an even bigger scumbag than previously thought. His deals with the huns were pretty funny though but the guy just seems to have no decency atall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 "Some workers"... Strange. Would it be ones without a bank account maybe? If so then these would be comparable to bank charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, thplinth said: "Some workers"... Strange. Would it be ones without a bank account maybe? If so then these would be comparable to bank charges. I've never been with a bank that charges me fees like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, derekfaejapan said: I've never been with a bank that charges me fees like that. Well let's not jump to conclusions we still do not know what this is for. But if it is to provide quasi banking services to employees without bank accounts then that scheme will have costs to run it and I can understand why the company feels it is fair to recover those costs through banking charges. We could argue the charges look high but this is where the employees come in. No one working for Ashley was forced to take the job. They chose that job because it was the best one they could get. Presumably because it paid better than anything else they could find. And even if that is all they could find then Mike Ashley is hardly a demon for providing jobs in an otherwise employment desert. Also it is not Mike Ashley who is cutthroat (although he is but it is not his fault). It is you the consumer who is cutthroat immediately buying from somewhere else if the price is cheaper. How many check the employment practices of the cheaper goods before doing so, lol. If Ashley started paying fat wages some ruthless kent would undercut his store prices and you'd all buy gear from them instead of him, in a heartbeat. So it is you the ruthless consumer who has made this a ruthless supplier and economic world. Ashley just knows how the game works. i.e. The game you play when it suits you. Edited June 7, 2016 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 It is a very dubious process but it appears its not Sports Direct themselves behind this but one of the agencies that supply the temporary staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
they've_been_suckered Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Worked in the Falkirk store years ago as a student. It's a terrible company to work for. Much of the stuff I've heard doesn't surprise me at all. They employ impressionable teens and keep them past their shift time and generally pressure them into working on/additional shifts etc. Having worked in Next also I can say that it really is night and day between them. Feel sorry for anyone who works there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, they've_been_suckered said: Having worked in Next also I can say that it really is night and day between them. Feel sorry for anyone who works there. Sports Direct must be bad then! Next don't even let you eat Salt and Vinegar Squares on the shop floor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 20 minutes ago, Parklife said: Sports Direct must be bad then! Next don't even let you eat Salt and Vinegar Squares on the shop floor! Probably just concerned for your health? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garywag Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, they've_been_suckered said: Worked in the Falkirk store years ago as a student. It's a terrible company to work for. Much of the stuff I've heard doesn't surprise me at all. They employ impressionable teens and keep them past their shift time and generally pressure them into working on/additional shifts etc. Having worked in Next also I can say that it really is night and day between them. Feel sorry for anyone who works there. Man Sports Direct must be bad if its worse than Next after the stories my missus told me after she worked there. Next sounded like a nightmare place to work as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 31 minutes ago, Garywag said: Man Sports Direct must be bad if its worse than Next after the stories my missus told me after she worked there. Next sounded like a nightmare place to work as well. I worked in Next for about 5 years. It was pretty shitty to begin with (turn up 15 minutes early and stay 15 mins late on each shift - even just 4 hour shifts, amongst other things.) By the time i left (about 7 years ago) it was alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I'm guessing the folk getting paid by this scheme don't have bank accounts? SD won't pay them cash so what other option is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 3 hours ago, they've_been_suckered said: Worked in the Falkirk store years ago as a student. It's a terrible company to work for. Much of the stuff I've heard doesn't surprise me at all. They employ impressionable teens and keep them past their shift time and generally pressure them into working on/additional shifts etc. Having worked in Next also I can say that it really is night and day between them. Feel sorry for anyone who works there. Reminds me of a well known burger chain I worked for when I was a student. If only RISE had been around in those days to stand up for me! These companies often hire very young workers as they tend to be more inclined to put up with that kind of shite. Unionising would help, although since many only work part-time they possibly don't think it's worth their while (wrongly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 theplinth is right. Mike Ashley is the big bad bogey man but if folks were so up in arms about him all it would take is for everyone to boycott his shops for a day or two and he might need to think a bit more about how he treats his workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymac Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 6 hours ago, Parklife said: Sports Direct must be bad then! Next don't even let you eat Salt and Vinegar Squares on the shop floor! Next don't let an employee eat smelly, greasy food on on the shop floor. Whit complete bastards. 12 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: theplinth is right. Mike Ashley is the big bad bogey man but if folks were so up in arms about him all it would take is for everyone to boycott his shops for a day or two and he might need to think a bit more about how he treats his workers. Hate to agree with Tplinth so I'll agree with you. or maybe I quoted the wrong post. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Sportsdirect would be easier to avoid if it hadn't already destroyed all competition that once existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I must have missed the footage of Mike Ashley's B52's carpet bombing his adversaries' factories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 10 hours ago, thplinth said: Well let's not jump to conclusions we still do not know what this is for. But if it is to provide quasi banking services to employees without bank accounts then that scheme will have costs to run it and I can understand why the company feels it is fair to recover those costs through banking charges. We could argue the charges look high but this is where the employees come in. No one working for Ashley was forced to take the job. They chose that job because it was the best one they could get. Presumably because it paid better than anything else they could find. And even if that is all they could find then Mike Ashley is hardly a demon for providing jobs in an otherwise employment desert. Also it is not Mike Ashley who is cutthroat (although he is but it is not his fault). It is you the consumer who is cutthroat immediately buying from somewhere else if the price is cheaper. How many check the employment practices of the cheaper goods before doing so, lol. If Ashley started paying fat wages some ruthless kent would undercut his store prices and you'd all buy gear from them instead of him, in a heartbeat. So it is you the ruthless consumer who has made this a ruthless supplier and economic world. Ashley just knows how the game works. i.e. The game you play when it suits you. I should never have introduced you to Thomas Sowell even if you are right. I'm not a consumer so I avoid all the angst, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 What's wrong with the youth of today? If they don't like the terms and conditions being imposed on them by unscrupulous employers,why don't they stand up for their rights and tell them to get tae fuk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, deecie said: Sportsdirect would be easier to avoid if it hadn't already destroyed all competition that once existed. Shop at Greaves. http://www.greavessports.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 35 minutes ago, phart said: I should never have introduced you to Thomas Sowell Yeah you really fukked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: What's wrong with the youth of today? If they don't like the terms and conditions being imposed on them by unscrupulous employers,why don't they stand up for their rights and tell them to get tae fuk? Probably cos 30-40 years ago their parents threw in the towel.Fell for the lie that if we all worked in cooperation with our employers as individuals our nice cuddly employers would look after us without the need for big bad unions and nasty restrictive employment laws. Since then successive governments have fostered the conditions where employees have no rights, no protection and worsening conditions, and then they have the nerve to whine when an employer takes advantage of the situation they created, it's laughable. 'Tell me Mr Big Bad Employer, why do you treat your employees like shit? Cos you said I could Mr MP'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 10 hours ago, andymac said: Next don't let an employee eat smelly, greasy food on on the shop floor. Whit complete bastards. It was a joke between me and the poster i quoted, he'll get it, you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exglasgowasc Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 15 hours ago, Parklife said: I worked in Next for about 5 years. It was pretty shitty to begin with (turn up 15 minutes early and stay 15 mins late on each shift - even just 4 hour shifts, amongst other things.) By the time i left (about 7 years ago) it was alright. A ha that's where you get your dress sense from then lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
they've_been_suckered Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 17 hours ago, Parklife said: Sports Direct must be bad then! Next don't even let you eat Salt and Vinegar Squares on the shop floor! those were the days 9 hours ago, Orraloon said: What's wrong with the youth of today? If they don't like the terms and conditions being imposed on them by unscrupulous employers,why don't they stand up for their rights and tell them to get tae fuk? I don't think that's anything to do with the youth of today. I'm sure you've had a shite first job too. 10 hours ago, Hertsscot said: theplinth is right. Mike Ashley is the big bad bogey man but if folks were so up in arms about him all it would take is for everyone to boycott his shops for a day or two and he might need to think a bit more about how he treats his workers. You've hit the nail on the head, people's morals fly it the window when you can buy Lonsdale trainers for £7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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