wanderer Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Good squad Hamilton Fulton Kelly Findlay Fraser Hyam Love McFadzean McGhee Paterson Robertson Fulton Henderson McGinn Slater Souttar Christie Cummings King McMillan McBurnie McKay Nicholson Shankland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Gordon Strachan will form part of the backroom team at the U21 game...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Where's Gauld? edit : ah, suspended... Edited November 2, 2015 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Where's Gauld? Sbragia says he isn't big enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Andy Robertson's inclusion seems a strange one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Andy Robertson's inclusion seems a strange one Hasn't been to great in the full squad. Probably a bit of man management... Put him in the U21s as a 'senior' to give the others a boost and give him a shot under less pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hasn't been to great in the full squad. Probably a bit of man management... Put him in the U21s as a 'senior' to give the others a boost and give him a shot under less pressure? If there are no senior games we should put out as strong a team as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 looks like Hibs game will be postponed with three called up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norsefox Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hasn't been to great in the full squad. Probably a bit of man management... Put him in the U21s as a 'senior' to give the others a boost and give him a shot under less pressure? The u21s need some results and the senior team isn't playing. He's clearly our most promising u21 player at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Kilt Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Mallan, not McMillan. He also only scores crackers and has a excellent free kick on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Andy Robertson's inclusion seems a strange one I don't see the logic in this one whatsoever. Robertson is an established A squad member and is playing regularly for his club. He will gain absolutely nothing from playing at this level, he's moved way past that. Once a player has stepped up a level he shouldn't go back, that should be a point of principle. Clearly I'm not talking about Strachan's policy of calling up promising young players to give them a feel for being part of the A squad, I think that's a positive move. It's also the wrong thing for the Under 21s as it means a player who might benefit from playing won't have that opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't see the logic in this one whatsoever. Robertson is an established A squad member and is playing regularly for his club. He will gain absolutely nothing from playing at this level, he's moved way past that. Once a player has stepped up a level he shouldn't go back, that should be a point of principle. Clearly I'm not talking about Strachan's policy of calling up promising young players to give them a feel for being part of the A squad, I think that's a positive move. It's also the wrong thing for the Under 21s as it means a player who might benefit from playing won't have that opportunity. Better to play our strongest team to allow the whole squad an opportunity to play in a finals. Plus Robertson has lost his starting place and could do with more experience against European players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Better to play our strongest team to allow the whole squad an opportunity to play in a finals. Plus Robertson has lost his starting place and could do with more experience against European players. He's playing against European players - proper experienced ones - every week for his club. The Under 21s should be about youth development first and foremost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 He's playing against European players - proper experienced ones - every week for his club. The Under 21s should be about youth development first and foremost. I get what you are saying but think that we should play our strongest team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 He's playing against European players - proper experienced ones - every week for his club. The Under 21s should be about youth development first and foremost. Ok, European style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I might take a trip through to this. It'll not exactly be Bosnia but you could be forgiven for thinking you'd be in Bosnia of 20 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastiebeastie Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Surely if this is about developing players and receiving European experience we should have a full team friendly too. Aside from Celtic players we ain't getting any such experience full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Out of interest, who is being dropped to accommodate Robertson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Out of interest, who is being dropped to accommodate Robertson? Stephen Hendrie and Stephen Kingsley were both dropped, they are both left backs. Hendrie hasn't played at all for West Ham since he went down there and Kingsley is playing in a bottom of the league Crewe Alexandra team on loan from Swansea. Edited November 2, 2015 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapperone Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) I see Barrie McKay has been called up. I like the boy, and posted recently praising him for his performances in previous Scotland youth games I'd been to. (at U17 or U19 level, I think). There is potential there. However, he's a First Division - sorry Championship - player. And as someone who watches Championship football every week, it annoys the hell out of me that McKay gets in, while Craig Sibbald is continually ignored. Sibbs is one of the most skilful players I've seen in the flesh during 35 years of watching football. What does he have to do to get recognised? Edited November 2, 2015 by Snapperone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I see Barrie McKay has been called up. I like the boy, and posted recently praising him for his performances in previous Scotland youth games I'd been to. (at U17 or U19 level, I think). There is potential there. However, he's a First Division - sorry Championship - player. And as someone who watches Championship football every week, it annoys the hell out of me that McKay gets in, while Craig Sibbald is continually ignored. Sibbs is one of the most skilful players I've seen in the flesh during 35 years of watching football. What does he have to do to get recognised? But because McKay "plays furra Rangurz" he simply must get picked ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Stephen Hendrie and Stephen Kingsley were both dropped, they are both left backs. Hendrie hasn't played at all for West Ham since he went down there and Kingsley is playing in a bottom of the league Crewe Alexandra team on loan from Swansea. I'm going to Crewe on Saturday, I'll keep an eye out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'm going to Crewe on Saturday, I'll keep an eye out for him. Poor bugger ! Crewe are the worst team in League One, bottom of the league. Bradden inman plays for them now, he was the one that played for us until Australia came calling and we weren't good enough for him anymore. What a superstar he turned out to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots_Wha_Hae Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I see Barrie McKay has been called up. I like the boy, and posted recently praising him for his performances in previous Scotland youth games I'd been to. (at U17 or U19 level, I think). There is potential there. However, he's a First Division - sorry Championship - player. And as someone who watches Championship football every week, it annoys the hell out of me that McKay gets in, while Craig Sibbald is continually ignored. Sibbs is one of the most skilful players I've seen in the flesh during 35 years of watching football. What does he have to do to get recognised? I was going to say Sibbald is too old, but looked it up first. I can't believe he's still only 20 - he seems to have been around forever! How/why he's not been picked up by a bigger club I'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots_Wha_Hae Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I also feel it is worth commenting on the quality of the squad. I remember well what it was like back in the early noughties; looking at squads and never having heard of large numbers of the players, who had never played a single game of first team football. Now we have got to the stage where we can argue over inclusions or exclusions, and we can see very good players being left out - it really is very promising. The next step, for me, is to start bringing these guys into the first team more consistently (or at least consistently moving them on to top class pro status). If we look at the best teams in the world, their conversion rate from great U21 to great senior pro is far better than ours. If part of that process involved them playing more games against their peers at U21 level to help them understand that they are well beyond most players of their age, then I am all for that. It wouldn't hurt for us to regain a bit of our swagger. Success breeds success, starting with the youth teams is as good a place as anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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