Rossy Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Before the penalty was taken, Joubert watches a replay of the incident on the big screen. At that point, he knows he's got it wrong and he knows that his mistake is about to knock Scotland out of the world cup. Yet he still allows the kick to go ahead without him either asking for the incident to be reviewed (i know about the protocol), or changing his mind to make the correct decision. He's a coward. And that's why he sprinted off the park. Fuxsake, that makes everything worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I know, what was even worse as I was brooding today was we would have, (at worst), been in the bronze playoff game. Meaning we technically would have had something to play for right up to the day before the World Cup Final. Grrrrrrr J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Trying hard, but very difficult to feel the ref was anything other than a cheat really. He messed up so blatantly that its hard to believe the excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Before the penalty was taken, Joubert watches a replay of the incident on the big screen. At that point, he knows he's got it wrong and he knows that his mistake is about to knock Scotland out of the world cup. Yet he still allows the kick to go ahead without him either asking for the incident to be reviewed (i know about the protocol), or changing his mind to make the correct decision. He's a coward. And that's why he sprinted off the park. Fuxsake, that makes everything worse. My blood pressure is just about back to normal now. Still can`t believe what happened. Interestingly, the Aussies weren`t doing much celebrating outside the stadium. They knew they got a massive let off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Jim Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Imagine the press witch hunt against the Ref if this happened to England. They would be camped outside his house 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 My blood pressure is just about back to normal now. Still can`t believe what happened. Interestingly, the Aussies weren`t doing much celebrating outside the stadium. They knew they got a massive let off. The aussies wouldn't be celebrating too much as they only won a QF. They won't really celebrate unless they win the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Celtic - the ref's a cheat = paranoia. Scotland Rugby - the ref's a cheat = damn right he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Celtic - the ref's a cheat = paranoia. Scotland Rugby - the ref's a cheat = damn right he is. Oh FFS give it a rest you. This a rugby forum. Your last post = paranoia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Oh FFS give it a rest you. This a rugby forum. Your last post = paranoia Just saying like. True though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Yesterdays blatant bout of cheating by the ref and scotland going out the world cup was heartbreaking.What it will do tho is galvanise the squad we will see a different animal when the 6 nations starts.They will still be hurting then and will want to make amends as they will feel they let themselves and the country down.JOUBERT SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO REF ANOTHER HIGH PROFILE GAME AGAIN OR ANY GAME FOR THAT MATTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Folks recall the Calcutta cup penalty "wrong call" When ref admitted he saw a navy blue cuff knock on the ball ; circa 92 I think it was Scotland lost based upon that call Turns out it was England's new kit with navy cuffs and one of their guys Not quite World Cup I know ; but recall watching it with rugby mates ; and whilst all annoyed etc they tend to move on ; have s bit of class compared to the never ending whining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Folks recall the Calcutta cup penalty "wrong call" When ref admitted he saw a navy blue cuff knock on the ball ; circa 92 I think it was Scotland lost based upon that call Turns out it was England's new kit with navy cuffs and one of their guys Not quite World Cup I know ; but recall watching it with rugby mates ; and whilst all annoyed etc they tend to move on ; have s bit of class compared to the never ending whining What is the saying? Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Remember Gavin Hastings penalty in front of the posts against England in the 1991 World Cup semi final late in the game ? Score tied at 6 all with time running out Misses England go up the park and score a drop goal to win Just like football - we dont need the refs to make mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 but hastings is a .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 but hastings is a .. Here's a bigger which you couldnt make up A discussion about glorious failure being in Scotland's psyche featuring we are too wee, too poor and too stupid nawbag extraordinaire Archie McPherson http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/34574649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 aye sad as hell.there are times i hate this ry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I can understand Joubert making the mistake at the time, in real time, and he enforced the rules as he has been instructed to use them as it wasn't reviewable. Doesn't excuse the wrong decision, but I understand how it happened. I can't believe that world rugby have thrown him under the bus though. That makes the sport look like even more of a joke. They've managed to make me feel sorry for Joubert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 What is the saying? Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. I prefer Second place , is first place for losers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govanhill Jacobite Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Folks recall the Calcutta cup penalty "wrong call" When ref admitted he saw a navy blue cuff knock on the ball ; circa 92 I think it was Scotland lost based upon that call Turns out it was England's new kit with navy cuffs and one of their guys Not quite World Cup I know ; but recall watching it with rugby mates ; and whilst all annoyed etc they tend to move on ; have s bit of class compared to the never ending whining remember it well my dad and me fell out as told him the ref had called it wrong, told me I was an idiot till he read in the papers the next day I was right, he then went mental lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I can understand Joubert making the mistake at the time, in real time, and he enforced the rules as he has been instructed to use them as it wasn't reviewable. Doesn't excuse the wrong decision, but I understand how it happened. I can't believe that world rugby have thrown him under the bus though. That makes the sport look like even more of a joke. They've managed to make me feel sorry for Joubert. Lets not forget he and the TMO "Missed" the late hit on Hogg with 2 mins 35 secs left also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I have no doubt Joubert knew he got at least the penalty call wrong. It's highly likely he knew that "something" was missed before that as well. He could have done something about those calls to correct his error - he would've seen the penalty call on the screen and realised he'd got it wrong (precedent set during the opening match for refs seeing something on the screen) and also when play had stopped he could've asked for a TMO review of the "missed" incident is the late tackle on Hogg. I know about "protocol" but surely getting a pivotal decision right in s World Cup quarter final is more important? He did neither. Instead he carried on allowing the penalty to be kicked, a decision he by this time 100% KNEW to be wrong and 100% KNEW would knock us out of the World Cup. That is why he scarpered at full time like the rat that he is up a drainpipe. That is why the man is a cheat (I also site his RWC 2011 final performance which cannot in any way be described as impartial due to the obvious offences he knew were being committed and chose to ignore) and that is why he must never be allowed anywhere near an international rugby fixture in an official capacity for the rest of his life. The only thing worse than a cheat is a cowardly cheat. That is precisely what Joubert is. I expect his "retirement" will be announced fairly soon. Edited October 20, 2015 by DaveyDenoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Lets not forget he and the TMO "Missed" the late hit on Hogg with 2 mins 35 secs left also Maybe he'd just finished "the boy that cried wolf"? It was the line-outs and dodgy re-start that cost us, as they were in our control. We were terrible at re-starts (and defensive maul) all tournament. However, that was a brilliant display. I hope they follow it up in their next game v England and the rest of the 6N. Hopefully, Vern will get inside their heads and get them up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Lets not forget he and the TMO "Missed" the late hit on Hogg with 2 mins 35 secs left also That's the bigger error IMO and the blame lies mostly with the TMO. That would effectively have ended the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Remember Gavin Hastings penalty in front of the posts against England in the 1991 World Cup semi final late in the game ? Score tied at 6 all with time running out I think the 'late in the game' part is an urban myth. Someone posted a link to it earlier in this thread, and the missed kick was in the 22nd minute. Still horrendous though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I think the 'late in the game' part is an urban myth. Someone posted a link to it earlier in this thread, and the missed kick was in the 22nd minute. Still horrendous though. I was thinking that before as well. Was sure it wasn't late on. Just couldn't be arsed googling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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