Auchinyell Sox Change Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/news/1328355-support-for-independence-ahead-but-snp-backing-down-poll-finds/ The big thing is the future "Younger voters aged between 16 and 34 were the most likely to say they wanted independence, with 59% supporting Yes, 28% backing No and 13% unsure. The picture was almost reversed for older Scots, with those over 55 favouring a No vote by 58% to 31%, while 12% were uncertain." You've also got to factor in though a lot of younger folk will mature, and change their views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) You've also got to factor in though a lot of younger folk will mature, and change their views Mature into selfish bastards? Edited September 10, 2015 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Mature into selfish bastards?Could swing either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 You've also got to factor in though a lot of younger folk will mature, and change their views Younger folk get their news and information from non MSM sources. they are more open minded than the current older generation and wont be fooled by the Record or the BBC... one or two will turn out to be selfish and become no voters others wont. Quite a patronising post .. but if it keeps you happy .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 He's saying they are still no. I know! was interested to see if there has been some movement though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbers Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 next time around a lot of the "shock and awe" tactics used by the no campaign such as big business leaders coming out against indy are gone. what will still need to be challenged is the currency issue, enough people had the frighteners put on them through this channel that prevented a Yes vote. I dont see any mass movement in the last year, I think there is an entrenchment on both sides with very few who would describe themselves as floating between the two. Sadly, I think we may need to wait it out for 20 years plus to see the passing of the older generation who voted in big numbers for NO. The elephant in the room that no one on the YES side wants to talk about for fear of being called nazis/racists etc, is that people born outside of Scotland who have settled here under the auspices of Scotland being part of the United Kingdom voted overwhelmingly for NO, this 10 to 15% of the population probably wont be moved in their views and are probably the actual blockage to us ever reaching independence. I met plenty of people born in England/Wales that voted Yes then again they all had educated themselves rather than just look at voting no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I met plenty of people born in England/Wales that voted Yes then again they all had educated themselves rather than just look at voting no Says the boards Professor Emeritus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Younger folk get their news and information from non MSM sources. they are more open minded than the current older generation and wont be fooled by the Record or the BBC... one or two will turn out to be selfish and become no voters others wont. Quite a patronising post .. but if it keeps you happy .. check my post above playing devils advocate card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 YouGov: Yes - 48% No - 52% Seems to be a difference between real world and online pollsters again (this time reversed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Some brilliant interviews with the key players in the Sunday Herald regarding the referendum. Very interesting to see how divisive the Bitter campaign team were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I was reading the other day that the Catalans plan to have a central bank in operation within months of independence, should they achieve it. Fair play to them, they seem to be learning from our mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Only a 6% swing needed for victory next time. Dare I say it - I think the next referendum should be called after the change in Monarchy. When Charles takes the throne I would predict some people's feelings of "Britishness" might take a dive. This coupled with the "I don't like Alex Salmond" crowd could be enough to swing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbers Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Only a 6% swing needed for victory next time. Dare I say it - I think the next referendum should be called after the change in Monarchy. When Charles takes the throne I would predict some people's feelings of "Britishness" might take a dive. This coupled with the "I don't like Alex Salmond" crowd could be enough to swing it. Lizzys 89 and still going... wonder what the odds of her going another 11 years are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Could swing either way Mature into Bisexuals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Frank GIlfeather (Aberdeen journalist) on GMS just now. He voted Yes, but now regrets it, and will definitely vote No in any future referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Frank GIlfeather (Aberdeen journalist) on GMS just now. He voted Yes, but now regrets it, and will definitely vote No in any future referendum. Probably due to the pelters he's taken in No City since Quite an emotional piece on GMS remembering the day with "Don't Dream It's Over" playing in the background. Even the FM was moved to comment on it... Edited September 18, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 GMS this morning excelled themselves in providing large callers of Unionist zoomery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 That Morag wifie was sensational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Only a 6% swing needed for victory next time. Dare I say it - I think the next referendum should be called after the change in Monarchy. When Charles takes the throne I would predict some people's feelings of "Britishness" might take a dive. This coupled with the "I don't like Alex Salmond" crowd could be enough to swing it. Still going to take time to get that swing into our favour. Despite what these "polls" say, if another Referendum was being held today No would still win so there's no point rushing into it. Yes we will go through another 5-10 years of misery but more those in the undecided camp who likely voted No will eventually realise (if they haven't already) they made the wrong choice with the so-called promises not being fulfilled and more punish the poor cuts, i.e the Tax Credits cuts being announced this week, leaving them pissed off so much they'll deflect to the Yes side. Plus, there's another generation old enough to vote that could help swing Independence our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khana Lagur Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 The 'No' majority in the independence referendum last year is being explained by an unusual alliance of Scotland's youngest voters, its average earners, Protestants and women. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34283948 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It shouldn't come down to tax cuts, etc. FFS vote for your country to be a normal country on the world stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It shouldn't come down to tax cuts, etc. FFS vote for your country to be a normal country on the world stage. Whilst I agree, there are some who are influenced by other factors. The lack of clarity on currency was a big fault in the Yes campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 That Morag wifie was sensational. You tease! What was she foaming about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ethnicity-identity-language-and-religion 80% of the population in 2011 classified themselves as Scottish. I guess that is your " Scottish people" Cough !!......Aberdeen & Edinburgh again FFS !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 You tease! What was she foaming about? Speaking sense amongst unionist half-wits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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