Och Aye Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I use the word "coloured" - some folk dont sem to like thatYep saying coloured is a major No No now. Don't think I would've been comfortable describing someone as black but that is apparently the correct term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 A spade was the term given to a black man when digging roads and laying rail tracks. If a hole needed to be dug a shout would go out for a spade. You live and learn. There was me thinking a spade was just what you dug holes with in the garden! It's lovely being naive sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You live and learn. There was me thinking a spade was just what you dug holes with in the garden! It's lovely being naive sometimes! Definitely a new one for me as well, live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Coloured is a massive no no. Why should someone be described as coloured? Everyone is coloured. It is used in South Africa for mixed race but is accepted there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil r Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) A spade was the term given to a black man when digging roads and laying rail tracks. If a hole needed to be dug a shout would go out for a spade.Serious bit of revisionism going in there. Nothing go do with spades being black in a deck of cards then?Infact it first seems to have been used in1542 just a shade before roads or rail tracks were being dug. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/call-a-spade-a-spade.html Edited August 18, 2015 by neil r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Spade is a new one on me. The missus fell out with her dad recently over his use of the 'n' word - he sees nothing wrong with it and reckons *he* is the one wronged for being unfairly chastised. I wonder if in 40 years time that will be me with my daughter, and the word 'spade'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 But it seems tae be awright fur the bad boy rappers tae use the N word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) I have learned something too, I thought call a spade a spade was because there was other [incorrect] words for spade, like shovel !!!!!! D'oh. Edited August 18, 2015 by BlueGaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Thats what it is is it not, the difference between a spade and a shovel?? Just checked that usage outdates the American usage of Spade as a racial slur, Wilde was using it in the 1800's Edited August 18, 2015 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Coloured is a massive no no. Why should someone be described as coloured? Everyone is coloured. It is used in South Africa for mixed race but is accepted there. I guess i am ok then - I'm in South Africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMcGREGOR Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) I once worked for a Housing Association in England LB Tower Hamlets, the Chairman was happy with everything but then said "There is only one nigger in the woodpile" Nigger used be a term for a black charred timber in the woodpile - comes from Latin - Niger Coloured has been offensive to Blacks since 20 years ago. Coloued was originally meant to be PC but it was stopped almost instantly. The one I've had to educate the Kids on (they are in their mid 20's) is referring to Chinese Takeaway or Meal as a "Chinky" - Not sure if just a Dundee thing, but have never used it myself. Adamant they would continue using it as they has used it all their LIFE hahaha (My Alf Garnett reference was lost on them). I called a new uniform jacket a bit GAY in the office 2 weeks ago before realing the girl I said it to was a stone wall dyke .... oops I mean Thespian. Still get pished off when the father in law (in his 70's) call the local corner shop the P$$kis. Edited August 18, 2015 by HUNTINGMcGREGOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Coloured is a massive no no. Why should someone be described as coloured? Everyone is coloured. It is used in South Africa for mixed race but is accepted there. Its "coiloured" people who cal themselves coloured though - I guess this likelyy was them embracing it a while back and covers black mixed race, indian descent, malaysian descent, chinese - anyone who's hair couldn't hold a comb.i I've heard some of the most racist comments about blacks coming from "coloured's" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I once worked for a Housing Association in England LB Tower Hamlets, the Chairman was happy with everything but then said "There is only one nigger in the woodpile" Nigger used be a term for a black charred timber in the woodpile - comes from Latin - Niger Coloured has been offensive to Blacks since 20 years ago. Coloued was originally meant to be PC but it was stopped almost instantly. The one I've had to educate the Kids on (they are in their mid 20's) is referring to Chinese Takeaway or Meal as a "Chinky" - Not sure if just a Dundee thing, but have never used it myself. Adamant they would continue using it as they has used it all their LIFE hahaha (My Alf Garnett reference was lost on them). I called a new uniform jacket a bit GAY in the office 2 weeks ago before realing the girl I said it to was a stone wall dyke .... oops I mean Thespian. Still get pished off when the father in law (in his 70's) call the local corner shop the P$$kis. Chinky was always used in my house as one of many foods shortened through laziness. Everyone knows that chinky is a combination of two words, Chinese and meal and has zero abuse attached to it. In the same way that cornies or ricers were for cornflakes and rice crispies. Or spag bol or totties or hundreds of others. People are far too uptight about these things and immediately think that somehow this is a racist term. It's not. In fact when I hear most people now saying they are going for a Chinese, I honestly wish they would finish the sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Chinky was always used in my house as one of many foods shortened through laziness. Everyone knows that chinky is a combination of two words, Chinese and meal and has zero abuse attached to it. In the same way that cornies or ricers were for cornflakes and rice crispies. Or spag bol or totties or hundreds of others. People are far too uptight about these things and immediately think that somehow this is a racist term. It's not. In fact when I hear most people now saying they are going for a Chinese, I honestly wish they would finish the sentence. How do the words Chinese and meal come out as chinky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 How do the words Chinese and meal come out as chinky? Probably in just the same way as chip shop comes out as chippy or Icey for ice cream van but I'm sure you know that. It's just how slang works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Probably in just the same way as chip shop comes out as chippy or Icey for ice cream van but I'm sure you know that. It's just how slang works. No, you said it's a combination of 2 words. Don't get how Chinese and meal become chinky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 No, you said it's a combination of 2 words. Don't get how Chinese and meal become chinky. You would need to ask the very first person who uttered this word. Maybe he/she tried Chinny, Cheal, Chinal and some others and Chinky just stood out. No idea. Are you offended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I once worked for a Housing Association in England LB Tower Hamlets, the Chairman was happy with everything but then said "There is only one nigger in the woodpile" Nigger used be a term for a black charred timber in the woodpile - comes from Latin - Niger Coloured has been offensive to Blacks since 20 years ago. Coloued was originally meant to be PC but it was stopped almost instantly. The one I've had to educate the Kids on (they are in their mid 20's) is referring to Chinese Takeaway or Meal as a "Chinky" - Not sure if just a Dundee thing, but have never used it myself. Adamant they would continue using it as they has used it all their LIFE hahaha (My Alf Garnett reference was lost on them). I called a new uniform jacket a bit GAY in the office 2 weeks ago before realing the girl I said it to was a stone wall dyke .... oops I mean Thespian. Still get pished off when the father in law (in his 70's) call the local corner shop the P$$kis. I'm with you, don't like people saying Chinkys or Pakis. Chinkys is common in Glasgow area but tends to be more neddy ####wits that say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You would need to ask the very first person who uttered this word. Maybe he/she tried Chinny, Cheal, Chinal and some others and Chinky just stood out. No idea. Are you offended? no, not really. Just don't understand how you were so sure where the word came from and them could offer no explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 no, not really. Just don't understand how you were so sure where the word came from and them could offer no explanation. I'm not sure if you are on the wind up or not. In relation to going for a chinky, what words do you think chinky relates to? I am 100% certain it is slang for Chinese and meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynnyboy Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's a derogatory term for the Chinese people. It might not be used by many in a knowingly derogatory manner but it is. A derivative of the word "chink" which was used as an offence term towards the Chinese people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Don't get how Chinese and meal become chinky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVEmcH-GTUg Edited August 18, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's a derogatory term for the Chinese people. It might not be used by many in a knowingly derogatory manner but it is. A derivative of the word "chink" which was used as an offence term towards the Chinese people. I have never used it in a derogatory manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynnyboy Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I have never used it in a derogatory manner. That's why I said most people use it in an non derogatory manner without knowingly doing so. It is derived from a derogatory term and could be deemed offensive irrespective of whether the individual realised the connotations or not. The world like the term used for local convenience stores ran by Pakistani individuals should not be used. In my opinion of course. It is a fact that both terms are derived from offensive terms though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It is a fact that both terms are derived from offensive terms though. Surely one is just short for Pakistani? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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