Ally Bongo Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) But surely it fits the MSM agenda to have Corbyn elected for labour leader. The MSM is (and is for) the establishment When the view was that Corbyn would be a disaster for Labour and would never become PM even if he did manage to win then they portrayed him well in the main Now they have seen the grassroots movement that he has generated the establishment is getting twitchy They have had weeks/months to highlight Corbyn's past but all of a sudden it's making headline news Edited August 19, 2015 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 He is still not going to win the next general election for labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 This is how the mainstream media bring you down - and this is just the start Cathy Newman is a disgrace when she said his activity in palestine had led him to being accused of mixing with some highly controversial folk, then Brown appeared on the video, and I thought, that's a fair point,got him bang to rights, but it wasn't Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 He is still not going to win the next general election for labour. Bit of positivity goes a long way friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 It'd certainly be a sensational victory. He would be the oldest debut PM in history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 He is still not going to win the next general election for labour. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Why not? Or "ra' English are pyoor right wing" is another reason I've seen thrown about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 http://wire.novaramedia.com/2015/08/6-possible-outcomes-if-jeremy-corbyn-is-elected-labour-leader/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 when she said his activity in palestine had led him to being accused of mixing with some highly controversial folk, then Brown appeared on the video, and I thought, that's a fair point,got him bang to rights, but it wasn't Brown. has anyone ever grilled Blair to the same degree over the death of a million people 'history will judge us' war criminal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 This is how the mainstream media bring you down - and this is just the start Cathy Newman is a disgrace What an absolute c~nt of an interviewer. First clip Ive seen of him, and he did well. Probably get in trouble for this, but the Jewish lobby should GTF. Cant stand any of these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Project Fear / Project Smear in full swing... no one north of the border surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 when she said his activity in palestine had led him to being accused of mixing with some highly controversial folk, then Brown appeared on the video, and I thought, that's a fair point,got him bang to rights, but it wasn't Brown. Good God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I have supported Palestinian rights for all my life. The way USA and Britain and many others continue to back the appalling Israeli regime is one of the most sickening things in world politics. Why can't someone point out to the so called Christians in America and beyond that Jesus himself was a Palestinian likewise all his disciples. Maybe that simple fact might actually wake them up to how utterly wrong their persistent anti Palestinian policies are and why they should be doing all they can to remove the apartheid regime that is the current Israel. And as my dad taught me as a child the parable of the Good Samaritan should actually be translated as the parable of the Good Palestinian. ..which was the whole point of the story ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The smear campaign is in full flow, shocking stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 interesting as hell though... I quite like him, he's like your lefty mate who hasn't evolved a single viewpoint since the 80s.... I doubt his ability as a leader though - he can't take his party with him and he can't take enough english voters with him to win an election. So now the DR is effectively telling all its readers that the yes/snp anti-austerity rhetoric is cool - where will they turn when Corbyn is ousted and they get a 'suit' back in control ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 interesting as hell though... I quite like him, he's like your lefty mate who hasn't evolved a single viewpoint since the 80s.... I doubt his ability as a leader though - he can't take his party with him and he can't take enough english voters with him to win an election. I keep hearing this 80's argument against him, rather than empty rhetoric what is it about his politicies that are 30 years out of date? I agree that the majority of the party will make him leading very difficult but not convinced that his politics can't win an election, millions don't vote and that's the key for labour to win, not chase a million or so swing voters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Probably get in trouble for this, but the Jewish lobby should GTF. Cant stand any of these people. The woman with the Scottish accent knew the score though. I agree that the majority of the party will make him leading very difficult but not convinced that his politics can't win an election, millions don't vote and that's the key for labour to win, not chase a million or so swing voters Ahh, the 'missing million'? From which (sadly ill fated) recent political campaign have i heard that before? IMO Corbyn can't win a general election. Just like the Yes campaign though, he can have a huge impact on British politics, even in defeat. Edited August 19, 2015 by Dave78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Ahh, the 'missing million'? From which (sadly ill fated) recent political campaign have i heard that before? IMO Corbyn can't win a general election. Just like the Yes campaign though, he can have a huge impact on British politics, even in defeat. He can if he can convince the millions of voters who have steadily stopped voting for labour (or anyone else) since Blairs first election win. There's a big difference between his politics and Millibands which just might re-engage young people in England like he yes campaign did here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 As i said a few pages ago the New Labour types dont seem to be able to see the huge elephant in the room if Corbyn doesnt win Especially after this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11814064/LabourPurge-Corbyn-supporters-hit-out-after-being-blocked-from-voting-in-leadership-election.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 They didn't earn the nickname ZaNu Labour for nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Surely Scunnered would have gotten the same email ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 It'd be ironic if they missed the guy who's actually been in more parties than the Krankies car keys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Surely Scunnered would have gotten the same email ? All clear so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Surely Scunnered would have gotten the same email ? they'll get their way through hell or high water, the rich "elite" aren't going to let you vote for someone that will spend their ill-gotten gains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 News At Ten there giving McTeirnan carte blanche to attack Corbyn over comments about Iraq from May 2014 that have been unearthed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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