Caledonian Craig Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 too simplstic thinking?? As posted earlier thats just my opinion on it. 1 goal in 18 for Scotland for a forward is hellish, lets say 4 assists in all isnt any better. I think we need to agree to disagree Sorry if I offended however as I said could you see Rhodes setting up Anya for that goal in Germany and his other assist can't remember the game (Georgia?) - that just isn't Rhodes game. It isn't his game to hold the ball up for supporting midfielders. That is the key here as that is the foundation of Strachan's game plan. Fletcher fits into it and contributes whereas I couldn't see Rhodes doing that. I don't think Strachan could and neither does the Blackburn boss Gary Bowyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 As folk have said he is good for a plan b option. Yes he might not fit into the system we normally play but if we are chasing a goal he is the type you could stick up front with Fletch and probable score for us. I think it could be a very good partnership with him and Fletch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I will say I certainly wouldn't grudge him a call-up as we are very thin on the ground for on-form strikers but still don't see him as starting matches for us anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Fletcher needs to move ASAP. As does mccormack. What a terrible move going to fulham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Would possibly have him in the squad before Martin. Not convinced his will be the answer to our sttikkng problems. There is a reason he hasn't been picked up by a bigger club and why Strachan doesn't pick him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munro7 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 He's more deserving of a shout than the likes of Watt & Griffiths who are being talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Rhodes is a far better goalscorer than fletcher. No a fan of fletcher. Recent games he spends far too much time pishing about trying to be fancy than doing the easy things well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallus79 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Would like to see Russell and Rhodes on the pitch at same time. And wonder if Matt Phillips will be recalled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@neaver82 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) B end replying................ Have you ever watched him this season ? I have I, end your silly question !!!! yes. and even in a season where he hasn't been as prolific he has still scored twice as many as any of our other strikers. you still haven't explained your reasons for your initial bizarre response? Edited March 15, 2015 by @neaver82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allyc Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I would call Jr over fletcher and Griffiths at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 He is always there for a plan B should we fail to break through teams. The thing is, I don't buy into the 'he doesn't fit the system' thing. If things aren't going our way in a game, systems have to change and you need a different option, which he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Good players can fit into any system, and JR is a good player and not any worse than Fletcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) The thing is, I don't buy into the 'he doesn't fit the system' thing. Well it seems that Strachan and the Blackburn manager would disagree with you as both refuse to play him in a single striker role. What you have to take into account is that Strachan has laid the foundations of our fine form on the well-drilled and settled look to the side which revolves around a single striker up front. In that case there is no place for Rhodes in the starting line-up so therefore he'd be getting named in the squad on the premise of keeping him for a time when we switch to two strikers up front - not something we have done in a long time so negates the need for including him even more. Edited March 15, 2015 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Well it seems that Strachan and the Blackburn manager would disagree with you as both refuse to play him in a single striker role. Yes, but when there is a need to change tactics, Rhodes is back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Yes, but when there is a need to change tactics, Rhodes is back in. There are many ways of changing tactics that Strachan employs and seldomly is that playing with two strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoltanBuchan Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Rhodes would be perfect for Gibraltar, in my opinion. In a Kris Boyd-ish kind of way, he seems to be the kind of striker who would be devastating against particularly weak teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Rhodes would be perfect for Gibraltar, in my opinion. In a Kris Boyd-ish kind of way, he seems to be the kind of striker who would be devastating against particularly weak teams. griffiths for me, he would be firing them in from anywhere, rhodes is just a poacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 There are many ways of changing tactics that Strachan employs and seldomly is that playing with two strikers. We have never played a team as weak as Gibraltar before though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 We have never played a team as weak as Gibraltar before though That is true but what is the point of bringing Rhodes in, rejigging the whole team set-up to play two strikers just to accommodate him for one game? After all it is a game we should win regardless of formation. For the rest of the campaign we would go back to the tried and trusted one striker up front in any case dispensing the need for Rhodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Not sure if he should be starting but should definitely be on the bench asBRL stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I honestly wouldn't have a problem if he is called up as he has shown form lately but I don't believe we should be tinkering with a winning formula just to accommodate him in the side. The big weak area of our squad is a lack of strength in depth in goalscoring strikers at international level. Now at the moment Naismith is definite starter, Fletcher is second in the pecking order as he has set up goals for us (next best to scoring) and then after that we have a number of players vying for the other spots up front. The form men and in the goals are in this order Jordan Rhodes, Tony Watt and Leigh Griffiths. However, Russell and May did decently against England so must be considered in the running. Martin (for me) has had enough chances of late but you feel Strachan will see it differently. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I honestly wouldn't have a problem if he is called up as he has shown form lately but I don't believe we should be tinkering with a winning formula just to accommodate him in the side. The big weak area of our squad is a lack of strength in depth in goalscoring strikers at international level. Now at the moment Naismith is definite starter, Fletcher is second in the pecking order as he has set up goals for us (next best to scoring) and then after that we have a number of players vying for the other spots up front. The form men and in the goals are in this order Jordan Rhodes, Tony Watt and Leigh Griffiths. However, Russell and May did decently against England so must be considered in the running. Martin (for me) has had enough chances of late but you feel Strachan will see it differently. We shall see. Agree totally with the bolded bit. I think Strachan has the team playing in a formation he, and they, are comfortable with, irrespective of the opposition. He gets little time as it is with the squad so why feck about with it in a game which will prove nothing. Surely better for the players to get another game using his tactics under their belts. The beauty of the current set up is its adaptable based on the opposition...we will have more players in and around attacking areas for this game than we will v say Germany, it gives the players a chance to play the preferred formation under different circumstances ie attacking outright rather than countering. We are going to beat Gibraltar whether Rhodes is there or not. Him scoring 2 or 3 goals v them proves nothing in terms of his actual suitability v stronger nations. I would rather stick with the players/squad that have got us to where we are at that moment rather than pull in someone just to possibly stick a couple of more goals on their CV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 We are going to beat Gibraltar whether Rhodes is there or not. Him scoring 2 or 3 goals v them proves nothing in terms of his actual suitability v stronger nations. I would rather stick with the players/squad that have got us to where we are at that moment rather than pull in someone just to possibly stick a couple of more goals on their CV. This. I'd have Rhodes in the squad, useful alternative from the bench if we need a goal but no point Strachan calling him up for this game alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Agree totally with the bolded bit. I think Strachan has the team playing in a formation he, and they, are comfortable with, irrespective of the opposition. He gets little time as it is with the squad so why feck about with it in a game which will prove nothing. Surely better for the players to get another game using his tactics under their belts. The beauty of the current set up is its adaptable based on the opposition...we will have more players in and around attacking areas for this game than we will v say Germany, it gives the players a chance to play the preferred formation under different circumstances ie attacking outright rather than countering. We are going to beat Gibraltar whether Rhodes is there or not. Him scoring 2 or 3 goals v them proves nothing in terms of his actual suitability v stronger nations. I would rather stick with the players/squad that have got us to where we are at that moment rather than pull in someone just to possibly stick a couple of more goals on their CV. No, he should be pulled in up score goals, then keep his place in the squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) No, he should be pulled in up score goals, then keep his place in the squad For why? You could make the same case for any of the other strikers in waiting? So why not just do the same for them and it would be more beneficial as they can play lone striker whilst Rhodes can't so where, in future, would he come in use. Edited March 16, 2015 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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