aaid Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Anyone in any doubt about how close SLab are to the Tories should watch this. This is John McTernan - Jim Murphy's Chief of Staff - speaking at last year's Tory Party Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP1QyAcQBJE#action=share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 It was early in the second half IIRC. That game was a nightmare, had free tickets from my boss in the Lisbon Lions stand, but got stuck in traffic and turned up about 20 minutes after kick off. Took our seats just as McCoist was clean through on goal, had to sit on our hands to avoid blowing our cover. Murder watching fitba in the wrong end. I think the win took Celtic above us in the league for the first time in ages. Anyway back to Mr Murphy... Guy in our supporters bus watched the 3-0 win at Ibrox from the club deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Guy in our supporters bus watched the 3-0 win at Ibrox from the club deck. Nightmare! I found that result out in an internet cafe in Cuzco, Peru. To say I got some strange looks from other patrons would be an understatement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Unite seemingly opposing Jims constutional changes today..... Can someone - anyone - point me in the direction of Scottish Labour's constitution that Murphy is advocating a change to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Can someone - anyone - point me in the direction of Scottish Labour's constitution that Murphy is advocating a change to? Me too please, can't find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Reminds me more and more of the rev I M Jolly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 What's going on with his hair colour. He was definitely ginger at the start of the year now he's almost 100% grey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The amount of anger I've seen towards Labour from their own supporters this morning goes beyond anything I've seen in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The amount of anger I've seen towards Labour from their own supporters this morning goes beyond anything I've seen in years. What, where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 What, where? SL Conference I'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Can someone - anyone - point me in the direction of Scottish Labour's constitution that Murphy is advocating a change to? The article here purports to list the "aims and values", original and new http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/jim-murphy-labour-party-open-to-yes-voters-1-3657421 There was an old thread on this http://tartanarmyboard.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=2967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 What, where? My friends and others on Social Media. A small percentage for allowing Nationalism into the party, and Loads for Red Ed's NHS hypocrisy speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 My friends and others on Social Media. A small percentage for allowing Nationalism into the party, and Loads for Red Ed's NHS hypocrisy speech. The NHS assertion is absolute howler that should be splashed on every front page tomorrow morning. They made considerable political weather of Yes' claim a No vote risked the Union before and after the September 18th ballot. A lot was made that the NHS was fully devolved and it's budget was not at risk with a No vote. As such, my jaw hit the floor when I seen Ed Miliband state a Tory win risks a £1 billion cut to the Scottish NHS! That one line has made an absolute c*** of many No and Labour campaigners, supporters, activists and members. SNP should be going to town on it - the Labour/No criticism at the time got a lot of coverage. Other stuff that didnt quite make sense: extra £1000 bursaries for poorest in Higher Education but something about £1600 for young Scots going straight into work. That's presumably a lot of money - haven't seen any costings for it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The article here purports to list the "aims and values", original and new http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/jim-murphy-labour-party-open-to-yes-voters-1-3657421 There was an old thread on this http://tartanarmyboard.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=2967 So there was. http://tartanarmyboard.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=2967&p=87308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 My friends and others on Social Media. A small percentage for allowing Nationalism into the party, and Loads for Red Ed's NHS hypocrisy speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 There's more as well, pretty much promising to give young Scots a cash handout: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31780621 Wtf? I presume it'll at least be means tested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) What a couple of inspirational politicians Miliband and Murphy are - 'Don't vote for the party whose policies you agree with the most, vote against the party whose policies you disagree with the most.' I'm getting close to the stage of not giving a toss which of Cameron or Miliband gets in; them's the breaks when you're Better Together... Edited March 7, 2015 by neilser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 What's going on with his hair colour. He was definitely ginger at the start of the year now he's almost 100% grey Blame Lord Ashcroft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The NHS assertion is absolute howler that should be splashed on every front page tomorrow morning. They made considerable political weather of Yes' claim a No vote risked the Union before and after the September 18th ballot. A lot was made that the NHS was fully devolved and it's budget was not at risk with a No vote. As such, my jaw hit the floor when I seen Ed Miliband state a Tory win risks a £1 billion cut to the Scottish NHS! That one line has made an absolute c*** of many No and Labour campaigners, supporters, activists and members. SNP should be going to town on it - the Labour/No criticism at the time got a lot of coverage. Other stuff that didnt quite make sense: extra £1000 bursaries for poorest in Higher Education but something about £1600 for young Scots going straight into work. That's presumably a lot of money - haven't seen any costings for it yet. Depends how many mansions there are in the south east of England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Depends how many mansions there are in the south east of England. Hasn't he already blown the Mansion Tax consequentials on 1000 extra nurses? Does England know what he's promising Scotland on the back of taxing them more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hasn't he already blown the Mansion Tax consequentials on 1000 extra nurses? Does England know what he's promising Scotland on the back of taxing them more? Can we imagine what the reaction would be if an SNP politician said that we were going to tax mansions in England to pay for more nurses in Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Can we imagine what the reaction would be if an SNP politician said that we were going to tax mansions in England to pay for more nurses in Scotland? Well, at the very least, i would expect Blair McDougall to retweet it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 There's more as well, pretty much promising to give young Scots a cash handout: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31780621 Wtf? I presume it'll at least be means tested? The £1600 handout is absolutely stark-raving bonkers. Not only is it not costed, but it's simply mental. So, for kids that do not have the desire/ambition to go into further education, an apprenticeship or simply go into work - Murphy wants to chuck £1600 quid at them to for them to spend on driving lessons, training or (the best laugh in my opinion) setting up their own business!! How many 17/18 year olds set up their own bloody business?? As for them to gain further training - I think if you have an idea of what you want to do at that age then this would more often than not be accessible to gain such training through further education. That brings us to driving lessons - a lovely gift from uncle Jim. I'm sure that the absolute wasters of society will be grateful for the handout for that said gift without having to lift a finger! Most concerning is that this whole policy can effectively work as an incentive to draw kids away from further education if you dangle a carrot of £1600 in front of them. How about incentivising them with that if they stay in work for a period of 2 years (or something to that effect) that then they get a handout. To promote a work ethic and a reward at the end of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The more you think of it, the more laughable it gets. I'd just take a year out before going to uni or college, get a job, and pi$$ £1600 up against the wall. What better way to celebrate leaving school than with a holiday to Vegas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 He said it again on GMS this morning. It also struck me that if he had an American accent he'd sound just like HAL from 2001. "Daisy, Daisy..." I always think he sounds like Naveed from still game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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