Best Sandwich Filling....

[Parklife]

I don't intend reading all the posts on this thread, so could someone tell me how we went from Dairylea Spread to "utter gimp"?

http://tartanarmyboard.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=9087

[jock strap]

Telling on me to the teachers now.

[Parklife]

Telling on me to the teachers now.

WTF are you on about? You're a very strange laddie.

[jock strap]

WTF are you on about? You're a very strange laddie.

Is that all you do when you have nothing decent to say ? Call people names and try and put them down ?

Bizarre behaviour.

[jock strap]

Back to topic.

My mate has crisps and cold beans.

It's actually no that bad

[Parklife]

Is that all you do when you have nothing decent to say ? Call people names and try and put them down ?

Bizarre behaviour.

You flagged up a post from 2 months ago solely to have a pop at me. You initiated this exchange. That's the bizarre behaviour.

Now, will you please leave me alone. You're like a needy child.

[jailender]

Get a room FFS !

[SMcoolJ]

Very interesting reading.

I stopped playing serious fitba about 7 years ago and since then have pretty steadily put on weight (apart from a short stint where I ran a couple of half marathons). Probably about 14.5 stone now (5ft 11"). Always been stocky, but I'm heavier than I want to be however I look at it.

Over the past 7 years, I've largely tried to avoid fat foods (except weekends) and lowered my intake of carbs. Still play fives a couple of times a week but come home and have a massive bowl of Bran Flakes (I prefer them to Corn Flakes - only reason) with semi skimed milk and sugar. I thought I was being healthy in doing this. Sounds like I've been getting this wrong. I should be coming home and having a carb-free fry up! The sugar/fat argument certainly makes sense though....

Anyway, favourite sandwich - tuna, mayo and red onion. Also like a cheese sandwich (grated cheese). (Why does cheese somehow taste different once it's been grated?)

[thplinth]

Very interesting reading.

I stopped playing serious fitba about 7 years ago and since then have pretty steadily put on weight (apart from a short stint where I ran a couple of half marathons). Probably about 14.5 stone now (5ft 11"). Always been stocky, but I'm heavier than I want to be however I look at it.

Over the past 7 years, I've largely tried to avoid fat foods (except weekends) and lowered my intake of carbs. Still play fives a couple of times a week but come home and have a massive bowl of Bran Flakes (I prefer them to Corn Flakes - only reason) with semi skimed milk and sugar. I thought I was being healthy in doing this. Sounds like I've been getting this wrong. I should be coming home and having a carb-free fry up! The sugar/fat argument certainly makes sense though....

Anyway, favourite sandwich - tuna, mayo and red onion. Also like a cheese sandwich (grated cheese). (Why does cheese somehow taste different once it's been grated?)

The Atkins diet folk have a reasonable summary.

It is all correct but the bit in bold is especially bang on the money.

Your Ally, the Atkins Edge

One of the first things that people new to Atkins notice after the first few days is their newfound ability to pass on sweets and starchy snack foods. This is not just a matter of psyching yourself up to the task, but an actual diminishment in appetite that occurs a week or so after you start controlling your carb intake. This precious gift is one of the benefits of the Atkins Edge. What is it and how does it work?

When you curb your intake of carbs and eliminate junk food carbs from your diet, you convert your body from burning primarily glucose (sugar) from carbs to burning primarily fat for energy. Within a few days any residual glucose from carbohydrates in your blood stream or cells is used up and you begin to tap into your body’s fat stores. (You’ll always burn carbs for energy first, but you switch over to fat burning sooner.) So the Atkins Edge is simply the metabolic adaptation to burning primarily fat for energy.

Vanquishing the Metabolic Bully

Now that you’ve met the Atkins Edge, let us introduce you to its arch enemy, the metabolic bully. If you struggle with a metabolism that can’t handle the high carbohydrate load typical of the modern, processed-food diet, you’re probably all too aware of the effects of the metabolic bully, although you’ve likely never called it that. The metabolic bully blocks the burning of stored fat. That roadblock is a high blood insulin level resulting from a diet that includes too many carbohydrates. As long as you eat lots of carbs (and the wrong ones to boot), your body keeps shooting out insulin to signal the glucose from carbs to leave your bloodstream and enter your cells. Insulin is known as the fat hormone for good reason. As long as you’re producing lots of insulin, it acts as a roadblock to burning your body fat.

Fortunately, your body will behave differently if you feed it differently. When you do Atkins, you rebalance your intake of carbohydrate, fat and protein, removing the roadblock to burning fat for energy. All you have to do to banish the metabolic bully that in the past has threatened to take over your life is to activate the fat-burning switch. Somewhere toward the end of the first or second week, you’ll probably feel a dramatic increase in your energy level and sense of well-being. That’s a clear signal that you’ve got the Atkins Edge.

In addition to the using your body fat for energy, this perfectly natural metabolic adaptation has a number of other related benefits. Among its beneficial effects, the fat-burning of the Atkins Edge:

• Provides a consistently high and steady stream of energy, rather than the ups and downs typical of a glucose metabolism.
• Moderates hunger and carb cravings.
• Gives you a sense of mastery as you realize that you’re capable of modifying your responses to certain situations and temptations.

Keeping the Edge

It’s important to understand that the Atkins Edge is a tool you’ll use for life, not just while you’re working toward your goal weight. Once you know how it feels to have the Edge, you’ll notice when you don’t have it and know to take immediate action to restore it. For instance, as you get closer to your goal weight, you may get a little sloppy about tracking your carb intake. So here’s the test: If you’re at or just below your carb threshold, it’s normal to feel comfortably empty at times without having to feel hungry. But if you’re above your carb threshold, feeling empty always triggers hunger. If you feel extremely hungry before meals, or if you experience binge eating, you’ve lost the Atkins Edge. Try reducing your average daily carb intake until the hunger or urge to binge goes away and you’ll have the Edge back.

Once you’ve reached your goal weight, if you exceed your carb tolerance (Atkins Carbohydrate Equilibrium, or ACE), you’ll find it harder to control your appetite and feel satiated, with the result that you’ll almost certainly regain lost pounds. You’ll lose the Atkins Edge and the metabolic bully will rear its ugly head again, blocking fat burning. Once you’ve burned up your excess fat pounds, there’s no reason your metabolism can’t continue that same burn rate for fat—keeping the Atkins Edge—as you maintain your new weight. But you’ll probably have to slightly increase your intake of foods such as olives, avocado, sauces, and salad dressings to continue primarily burning fat—with all the benefits it provides. With the Atkins Edge at your disposal, permanent weight control is within your grasp.

You really don't get hungry in the way you do when you are eating too much carbs. It is a very gradual and gentle hunger compared to the cavernous yawning hunger you can get when eating too many carbs. Plus the energy thing is also bang on. You just have more. And there are no dips.

I have switched back and forth three times now experimenting with different levels of carbs and without a doubt now I am convinced our bodies are evolved for the high fat low carb diet.

Edited April 24, 2015 by thplinth

[Parklife]

I stopped playing serious fitba about 7 years ago and since then have pretty steadily put on weight (apart from a short stint where I ran a couple of half marathons). Probably about 14.5 stone now (5ft 11"). Always been stocky, but I'm heavier than I want to be however I look at it.

I was in a pretty similar position up until about 15 months ago.

Initially i went low-carb (with all carbs concentrated in the morning/early in the day (i.e. small portion of porridge for breakfast and an apple at lunch). I'd also run every day after work.

Lunch each day would be soup and an apple. Snack on nuts. Salad and a protein (chicken/fish/beef) for dinner.

In about 6 months I was down to around 11 stone.

Losing weight is easy if you want to do it. It's putting it back on as muscle that's the hard part.

[derekfaejapan]

Mince...If there's a better sandwich filler than that then I've yet to see it.

[hampden_loon2878]

Sea food cocktail canna beat it

[derekfaejapan]

Sea food cocktail canna beat it

What exactly is in yer seafood cocktail?

[hampden_loon2878]

There are a few different recipes for aeafood cocktail but this is usually what i put in it Mayonnaise, Surimi,lobster,crab,Prawn , Tomato Sauce, Cornflour, Parsley, lettuce,some fish(haddock,lemmon, cod) my father inlaw makes it the best never as good when i make it

[Charlie Endell]

There are a few different recipes for aeafood cocktail but this is usually what i put in it Mayonnaise, Surimi,lobster,crab,Prawn , Tomato Sauce, Cornflour, Parsley, lettuce,some fish(haddock,lemmon, cod) my father inlaw makes it the best never as good when i make it

I'm drooling just reading that - sounds magnificent.

[davierobbsagod]

Mince...If there's a better sandwich filler than that then I've yet to see it.

has to be cold mince tho....

[northernscum]

has to be cold mince tho....

Not had that for years! I am getting heartburn just thinking about it

[HUNTINGMcGREGOR]

Bacon, chicken and honey mustard Mayo in a nice fresh baguette

Oooooohh "J'ai ma pelle Baguette"

[1ANDYP]

What do you cut out to cut down on carbs.totties and bread?

[Parklife]

What do you cut out to cut down on carbs.totties and bread?

Yup.

As a substitute for bread, Lidl do high protein:low carb rolls in their bakery bit. Highly recommended.

Rather than have tatties/pasta/rice at dinner have a large salad or steam veg.

[Kirk]

Yup.

As a substitute for bread, Lidl do high protein:low carb rolls in their bakery bit. Highly recommended.

Rather than have tatties/pasta/rice at dinner have a large salad or steam veg.

I'm not a salad person but um gettiiingg much better with the veg side of things. Once I have a working knee I can't wait to get fit properly again.

[Parklife]

I'm not a salad person but um gettiiingg much better with the veg side of things. Once I have a working knee I can't wait to get fit properly again.

Stir some cottage cheese (onion and chive one is good) through the salad. Gives it more moisture and flavour.

[Kirk]

Stir some cottage cheese (onion and chive one is good) through the salad. Gives it more moisture and flavour.

Failed to add im mega fussy, cottage cheese would make !e spew. I'm getting better though.

[thplinth]

What do you cut out to cut down on carbs.totties and bread?

This is a fairly broad guide but is from a US perspective.

http://files.atkins.com/1501_CarbCounter_Online.pdf

I am using the Atkins site but really he just hijacked something that was around for a long time before he came along. It is not really a diet just (true) healthy eating.

Pasta, Sugar, Anything with added sugar, Bread, Root vegetables, Rice, Bananas, Other sugary fruits. From your body chemistry perspective pasta and bread and sugar are metabolized in the same way.

For a low carb diet to work for weight loss I'd get your carb consumption down to below 50g per day. It is quite a change if you have been living on a high carb diet for a long time. It will take a few days for your metabolism to switch over from fat storage mode to fat consumption mode.

This is why you don't get real hunger on a high fat diet, your body is able to easily switch to consuming your fat reserves. Something it is continuously blocked for doing when you eat too many carbs.

[phart]

This is a fairly broad guide but is from a US perspective.

http://files.atkins.com/1501_CarbCounter_Online.pdf

I am using the Atkins site but really he just hijacked something that was around for a long time before he came along. It is not really a diet just (true) healthy eating.

Pasta, Sugar, Anything with added sugar, Bread, Root vegetables, Rice, Bananas, Other sugary fruits. From your body chemistry perspective pasta and bread and sugar are metabolized in the same way.

For a low carb diet to work for weight loss I'd get your carb consumption down to below 50g per day. It is quite a change if you have been living on a high carb diet for a long time. It will take a few days for your metabolism to switch over from fat storage mode to fat consumption mode.

This is why you don't get real hunger on a high fat diet, your body is able to easily switch to consuming your fat reserves. Something it is continuously blocked for doing when you eat too many carbs.

are you saying we shouldn't eat root vegetables? Or apples, oranges bananas and other fruits with sugar?