Bristolhibby Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 If Labour and the SNP became "toxic" after forming a coalition, who would Scots change their votes to? Good point. Labour for me lack the toxicness of the Tories. (Only just at the moment). Scotland being represented by a strong group of SNPs can only be a good thing. It will firce Liebour to deliver some meaningful change, and shut the flook up about having delivered "the vow". It can only be a good thing. Oh and a Labour SNP coalition is just as effective as getting the Tories out as a strong Labour Party, so people shouldn't buy the lie that SNP means more ConDem government. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Outcome of the 2015 GE will be a National Government coalition between Tory and Labour. I'm absolutely convinced of it. Collapse in the Lib Dem vote will mean they can't deliver a majority with either Blue or Red, UKIP won't have enough seats and they will both refuse to work with the SNP. Three party coalition would be ridiculed in the UK. Only workable solution is Labour + Conservative to muddle along until they fall out and one of them thinks they can increase their number of seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The seethe from down south would be immense if the SNP formed a coalition, so on that basis i'm happy enough with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) The seethe from down south would be immense if the SNP formed a coalition, so on that basis i'm happy enough with it.This, added to the fact that the pish EVEL would die is another benefit. It would show all of the UK that we are "Better Together". ;-)You get the impression that Scots are second class citizens, not allowed representation in Westminster! FFS! J Edited January 30, 2015 by Bristolhibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 If I was still living in Scotland I would, at the moment, only vote for SNP as for me they represent the best chance of Indy. If another party had a better chance such as SSP then I would vote for them. Both my parents are the same its all about getting Indy. If SNP go into coalition with labour I won't mind as long as they do the best for Scotland as they can. Compromises would have to be made but that goes for both sides and as some one posted before it could see the media spin in and have the English want us out of the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee-toon-red Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I don't think I could stomach the SNP going into coalition with Labour, regardless of public perception of the move. The red tories are such a shambles in Scotland that it's best not to be associated with their lies and underhand tactics. "Scottish" Labour's entire purpose since 2007 has been to undermine, smear and blatantly lie about the SNP so I can't understand why getting into bed with them could ever be a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I would agree. prefer it if the SNP had the balance off power to stand up for themselves - get right up the noses of the establishment and only lend support to policies that suit them. The more it becomes constitutional chaos at Westminster - the better chance of gaining Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I don't think I could stomach the SNP going into coalition with Labour Have said that there will be no coalition but would vote on a policy by policy basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Have said that there will be no coalition but would vote on a policy by policy basis No she didn't. She said she wasn't keen, or enthusiastic on a coalition can't remember which it was... Call me cynical, but that's not ruling it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 No she didn't. She said she wasn't keen, or enthusiastic on a coalition can't remember which it was... Call me cynical, but that's not ruling it out. That was my take on it. The only ruling out was a coalition with the Tories. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 No she didn't. She said she wasn't keen, or enthusiastic on a coalition can't remember which it was... Call me cynical, but that's not ruling it out. Mr Cynical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Mr Cynical I'll be saving this post so I can say "telt ye" after Ed & Nicola are seen embracing *shudder* at the door of number 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I'll be saving this post so I can say "telt ye" after Ed & Nicola are seen embracing *shudder* at the door of number 10.Surely it'd be a SNP Westminster MP? Mr Salmond perhaps? I almost want it to happen, just to see the rage from down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Surely it'd be a SNP Westminster MP? Mr Salmond perhaps? I almost want it to happen, just to see the rage from down south Indeed Daily Fukkking Mail meltdown.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Surely it'd be a SNP Westminster MP? Mr Salmond perhaps? I almost want it to happen, just to see the rage from down south Now that is almost worth seeing, the media melt down would be mental Edited January 30, 2015 by hunchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Surely it'd be a SNP Westminster MP? Mr Salmond perhaps? I almost want it to happen, just to see the rage from down south Sturgeon said yesterday she will negotiate any agreement along with Hosie. But yes, the Mail crowd reaction would be orgasmic ... Imagine Salmond as deputy PM, the seethe from the Mail readers could power the country for decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 There can be no coalition with labour in my opinion. However the thought of the reaction to Salmond as Deputy PM is of such potential i have to stop thinking about it, in case i convince myself it's in any way shape or form a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Not to sound like a broken record... But you really get the sense of how much the SNP support the living wage. http://www.stuc.org.uk/news/1131/stuc-anger-at-scottish-government-delay-on-living-wage-guidance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I wouldn't say the SSP policies are particularly out there, the living wage (which the SNP support, they just vote it down), and a ban of zero hour contracts. Socialist parties don't expect to be elected... Ever. They have their policies implemented through raising public awareness and motioning the current government... As the SSP did with abolishing prescription charges. Yet you want the SNP to adopt the policies of a party that does not expect to get elected...ever. Why do you think it will never get elected...ever? The SSP is the SSP and the SNP is the SNP. There are not the same thing and they do not have the same goals. By injecting the SSP into the SNP you make it unelectable...ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Yet you want the SNP to adopt the policies of a party that does not expect to get elected...ever. Why do you think it will never get elected...ever? The SSP is the SSP and the SNP is the SNP. There are not the same thing and they do not have the same goals. By injecting the SSP into the SNP you make it unelectable...ever. I don't? I want the SNP to be honest on what they intend to deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The SNP's policy on the Living Wage is clearly something that can be addressed by the consultation that the party is undertaking with its 93000 members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The SNP's policy on the Living Wage is clearly something that can be addressed by the consultation that the party is undertaking with its 93000 members. I hope you're not feeling let down and disappointed in the near future. I fear you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 In hindsight that post looks like I don't think the consultation is a good thing, I absolutely do. Im sceptical of action being taken on it. Expedience and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I'll be saving this post so I can say "telt ye" after Ed & Nicola are seen embracing *shudder* at the door of number 10. I think everyone is forgetting that the Tories will win the election regardless of what the polls say just now ...and you can keep this post as well ...so is all moot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I think everyone is forgetting that the Tories will win the election regardless of what the polls say just now ...and you can keep this post as well ...so is all moot I think a Tory majority is highly unlikely, but yes the possibility is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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