TDYER63 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 55 minutes ago, Orraloon said: She should have abstained. Aye, you are right, she should have. I forgot about that option! I am sleep deprived after a night clinging onto the end of the bed with a cockapoo sprawled out like a starfish. Still not seen your fridge .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: Do you know him ? I have seen that guy on zoom meetings , one was an SNP independence meeting , the others i think maybe BIS meetings. It wont surprise you to hear he is quite outspoken 🙂 Never heard of him in ma puff. Could cause a major upset from left field like the Dekebone Roundabout guy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 It might be what the "party" needs and the last thing that "the party" wants - if that makes sense It should make the debates more interesting when one of the candidates isn't constrained by Holyrood and without a doubt put the SNP strategy, or lack of, questioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 33 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: It might be what the "party" needs and the last thing that "the party" wants - if that makes sense It should make the debates more interesting when one of the candidates isn't constrained by Holyrood and without a doubt put the SNP strategy, or lack of, questioned There shouldn't be any debates. Both candidates should inform voters (ie SNP members) of their vision for the future and then just get the vote done. These TV debates do nothing more than allow the biased presenters to stick the knife into the SNP. This vote is for SNP members only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Apparently the last leadership contest cist 160k. Seems a mad amount ? . I'll doubt the snp could afford that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Orraloon said: There shouldn't be any debates. Both candidates should inform voters (ie SNP members) of their vision for the future and then just get the vote done. These TV debates do nothing more than allow the biased presenters to stick the knife into the SNP. This vote is for SNP members only. They should stream them online and refuse any TV broadcasts of them - or maybe even stream just to members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Union Bears entering a candidate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 50 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Union Bears entering a candidate? Classy as ever. Radio silence from Rangers no doubt. 🙈🙉🙊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 38 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: 😂 Brilliant 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 After a talk with John Swinney, Graeme is no longer going to stand ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 15 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: After a talk with John Swinney, Graeme is no longer going to stand ... Shitebag The party probably can’t afford a leadership contest. Financially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: 😂 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 This is before Graeme decided not to stand More info on Honest John from the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 57 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: This is before Graeme decided not to stand More info on Honest John from the past Ally, i watched about a minute (from 9 mins onwards), which was enough to hear Quinan denigrating Swinney. What's their deal? Surely you'd agree that the SNP needs to be united? Can't we get behind Swinney and Forbes, instead of these Youtube grifters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I am even willing to give this a chance, I will vote snp next election if I see a change of direction under swinney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 What are we thinking about McCormack then Has he been bribed, warned off, promised a a highly paid lucrative position, did he just fancy the attention for a few days or was it something more sinister in the way of fears of a chap at the door one night? Whatever it is it’s been a stitch up from the get go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 26 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: What are we thinking about McCormack then Has he been bribed, warned off, promised a a highly paid lucrative position, did he just fancy the attention for a few days or was it something more sinister in the way of fears of a chap at the door one night? Whatever it is it’s been a stitch up from the get go I would have as much chance of becoming FM than that guy. I would welcome any realistic candidate but IMO this is nothing more than a rush of blood to the head, then being told to calm doon. From what I have seen of him he passionate but also strongly opinionated , too opinionated , if Forbes is in a pole position in this government I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being . I don’t blame the guy for trying to make a point, but at this time McCormack would not be a positive move . IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 15 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: I would have as much chance of becoming FM than that guy. I would welcome any realistic candidate but IMO this is nothing more than a rush of blood to the head, then being told to calm doon. From what I have seen of him he passionate but also strongly opinionated , too opinionated , if Forbes is in a pole position in this government I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being . I don’t blame the guy for trying to make a point, but at this time McCormack would not be a positive move . IMO. Put the leadership gig to party members then call an election. In the interests of the people of Scotland we demand a people’s vote A leadership, general and Scottish election campaign triple heider would most probably bankrupt the party though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, DoonTheSlope said: What are we thinking about McCormack then Has he been bribed, warned off, promised a a highly paid lucrative position, did he just fancy the attention for a few days or was it something more sinister in the way of fears of a chap at the door one night? Whatever it is it’s been a stitch up from the get go I guess he just succumbed to Swinney's powers of persuasion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 37 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Put the leadership gig to party members then call an election. In the interests of the people of Scotland we demand a people’s vote A leadership, general and Scottish election campaign triple heider would most probably bankrupt the party though Yeah , well, what should happen doesn’t actually happen in the real world. Whilst we are part of this union we will continue to play their game because playing fair in the UK gets you nowhere . If umpteen unelected prime ministers and a foreign secretary who isnt even an MP are accepted at WM then why on earth would the SNP do any different. And lets not pretend it would be any different with Labour in charge. Their principles sank with their left wing party years ago. You are the person always promoting fairness and equality. There will never , ever be a fairness in elections when the Tories are bank rolled by business and Labour bank rolled by, well business now too since their lurch to the right , and the Unions, who are clearly still clinging to the hope that 1970’s Labour will re-emerge in some Alice In Wonderland fantasy . Edited May 6 by TDYER63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 9 hours ago, Dave78 said: Ally, i watched about a minute (from 9 mins onwards), which was enough to hear Quinan denigrating Swinney. What's their deal? Surely you'd agree that the SNP needs to be united? Can't we get behind Swinney and Forbes, instead of these Youtube grifters? I think the problem is that they believe that the Independence movement will not be united with the current SNP leadership in charge and that the SNP machine has no real will to push for Independence I will give them a chance but i'm not holding my breath with devo John - and we don't even know what Freeport Forbes has been offered and whether she will still want to remain on the back benches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, DoonTheSlope said: Put the leadership gig to party members then call an election. In the interests of the people of Scotland we demand a people’s vote A leadership, general and Scottish election campaign triple heider would most probably bankrupt the party though It has been put to the party members. I could have stood, I could have nominated someone, nothing stopped me. Seems that everyone is happy with this as the way forward for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Most of the folk I've heard moaning about it are not SNP members. Most of them also seem to want Kate Forbes to be leader. It seems to be hard for them to accept that Kate Forbes doesn't want the job, not at the moment anyway. It seems pretty pointless trying to vote for somebody who doesn't want the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Is there a possibility that swinney is away to throw sturgeon and her cronies under the bus? There’s something more to this than meets the eye,, I trust Forbes and the lad who was going to run, I am guessing is old gaurd with traditional SNP values so swinney has obviously gave an indication that the snp will be heading in a different direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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