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As a sort of culmination of the season post I have tried to put together a bit of an overview of the best young and emerging players who are currently or could be involved with the Scottish national teams. I have focused on players 21 and under and predominantly those playing at Premiership level in Scotland (with some exceptions) or those I consider to be ‘notable’ in other countries, most particularly in the English development leagues. I have likely missed loads but I hope this is a fairly comprehensive overview. It’s a little concerning if my perception of the keepers in particular is correct, as there is very little coming through. Otherwise it looks like we have a number of promising players in most positions – it will certainly be interesting to see the progress of these players over the coming season.

 

Goalkeeper

Cieran Slicker (20, Manchester City): Loaned to Rochdale in League 2 and didn’t play a single league minute – a bit of a disaster really. One many of us had high hopes might be a future international but on this showing he has a lot of work to do even to make a professional career. Needs to play football next year or he may fade to obscurity

 

Defence

Adam Devine (20, Rangers): A decent season with 6 Premiership appearances and loads of time on the bench. Has the talent to play more often so either a loan or more gametime must be the goal in 23/24

Adam Montgomery (20, Celtic): A full season for St Johnston at Premiership level has been great progress for 22/23. It will be interesting to see what Celtic do next season in terms of a further loan or to try to push him into the first team. Clearly good enough for this level he needs to keep the progress going and not stall through limited gametime next season

Kerr Smith (18, Aston Villa): Transferred to Villa after getting some gametime at 16 for Dundee United and by all accounts has established himself well in their youth sides. Has played both U18 and PL2 level this year with good reports on each. Next season he will look to establish himself fully at PL2 level and perhaps even make the Villa squad for the cups. A loan looks unlikely at this stage with perhaps another year needed before he takes that leap.

Lewis Neilson (20, Hearts): 25 career appearances at Premiership level at 5 appearances in Europe seems to be positive however minutes have largely dried up with his last significant gametime in October 22. Probably needs a loan in 23/24 if he is not yet Premiership standard, certainly needs more games

Dylan Smith (16, Ross County): a breakthrough season for him at a very young age. 14 appearances in all competitions including 12 in the last 15 is brilliant. Hopefully continues to play next season and racks up a similar number of appearances.

Dane Murray (19, Celtic): Often been talked about as a potential first team player at Celtic but doesn’t ever seem to have got going. I am not sure what the issue was this year, potentially injury, but he more or less played no football. Next year is huge for him, another year without notable experience and his chance may be gone

Max Johnston (19, Motherwell): Smashed his way into the first team at Motherwell after Christmas following a second loan at Championship level. Has been very influential in the second half of the season at Premiership level, making 18 appearances, scoring 3 goals and making 3 assists. Strong rumours of a potential transfer with the well-trod path via Bologna in particular a mentioned option

Josh Doig (21, Verona): 22 Serie A appearances (2 goals, 4 assists) is a brilliant return and great progression from his 50+ Premiership appearances from Hibs. He fell out the team a bit at the end of the season due to a combination of injury issues and a manager change. Speculation about another transfer but he could do with re-establishing himself in the Verona team first. Another good year in Serie A and he can start thinking about full Scotland honours – already not too far away after his squad appearances this year

Liam Morrison (20, Bayern Munich): Surprised even those of us that keep tabs of youth players by making the bench for Bayern towards the end of the season. Despite the fact Bayern were undergoing somewhat of an injury crisis at the time, he was the player from the youth sides selected to take the bench place so the achievement is not to be underestimated. It has been rumoured a loan may be on the cards for 23/24 after a season at Regionalliga Bayern (a regional 4th tier league), it would certainly be good to see how he fares in men’s football

Jeremiah Chilokoa-Mullen (18, Leeds): Caught the eye when he benched a few times for Leeds in the EPL although he didn’t make the pitch. A decent PL2 season with 14 appearances, next year in the Championship he should be looking towards the first team for the cups and perhaps benching in the league. A loan post-Christmas might be on the cards to a lower level, League 2 might suit

Ibane Bowat (20, Fulham): On loan in the second half of this year in the Dutch second division for Den Bosch where he played almost every game he was available. A good experience and he should be seeking further men’s football next year at a higher level, maybe League 1 or Championship in England

Leon King (19, Rangers): A tough job on his hands to break into the Rangers first team but of all their youth players he currently looks one of the most likely. After a great run of games in the first half of the season (largely, I think, due to injuries in the wider Rangers squad) he didn’t feature too much after Christmas. If Rangers go on a signing spree this summer he may be better to seek a loan to build his experience. He is too good for the Scottish Championship so either the Premiership up here or the Championship in England would be a good test for him. Has the talent and ability to break into the Scotland squad over the next 18 months – a good loan could secure that

Harrison Ashby (21, Newcastle): Made a slightly surprising transfer from West Ham to Newcastle where he has featured rarely with a couple of European appearances the totality of his minutes this season. Has benched a few times in the EPL but is well behind Kieran Trippier for that slot. Another that could do with a loan – he showed at West Ham he is potentially an EPL quality player but he won’t be unless he plays some games

Calvin Ramsay (19, Liverpool): An injury hit season that nevertheless showed great promise. Played in the Champions League against Napoli (well, for 3 minutes) as well as in the cups for a couple of games and benching in the EPL but eventually was confirmed to have a knee issue that required an operation and missed most of the post-Christmas season. Will be hoping to be in and around the squad for Liverpool next year as that is where Klopp has suggested he sits in the pecking order. With Trent latterly playing further forward he is the only recognised rightback in Liverpool’s squad – there may even be a place for him as well as Trent in a starting lineup. If not, cups, rotation and bench next season would be excellent progress. Another that any sort of run will see in the Scotland squad

 

Midfield

Josh Adam (19, Man City): may go out on loan if following similar process to likes of Fiorini. Belgian or Dutch leagues or lower league (League 1) England. We should hopefully see this coming season if his classy style at reserve league level translates to men's football as well as getting a view of his ultimate ceiling

Connor Barron (20, Aberdeen): On the face of it another good season for Barron but in reality it seems to have been more of a step backwards. After his brilliant form in 21/22 he struggled a bit with injury, missing the first few months of the season as well as a chunk towards the end culminating in largely being dropped from the team. Needs to re-establish himself next year and focus on breaking into the team permanently after possibly having his head turned by transfer talk. Nevertheless, he is a 20 year old with 62 appearances to his name including 30 at Premiership level which is a good return

Lyall Cameron (20, Dundee): 25+ games in the championship and approaching 100 career appearances he’ll be looking to show he is a Premiership standard player in 23/24

Ryan Duncan (19, Aberdeen): looking to cement himself in the Aberdeen midfield. Played 20 times this year with strong close to the season. More of the same needed next year to firmly establish his place

Bailey Rice (16, Rangers): should be aiming for 5+ appearances after making his debut this year. Not ready for a loan or significant minutes beyond the Lowland League (assuming B teams continue)

Lennon Miller (16, Motherwell): made good progress this season with 5 appearances across all competitions. Should be aiming for 15-20 appearances across all competitions next year with several starts, particularly in the league cup

Ben Summers (18, Celtic): Managed a few minutes across two games at the end of the season after largely playing with Celtic’s B team. Needs to rack up decent gametime in 23/24 so a loan is probably his next step

Dylan Reid (18, Crystal Palace): Played a couple of times for Saint Mirren before moving to Crystal Palace U18s at the start of the year. Has played well at that level and has also played at PL2 level albeit briefly. Will be hoping for more PL2 starts next season

Lewis Fiorini (21, Manchester City): Unfortunately an injury disrupted season in the English Championship for Blackpool this season after a succession of very promising loans. Got back into the team at the tail end of the season but finished with only 13 appearances, probably less than half of what he hoped for. With around 100 appearances in men’s football, next season is a big deal for Fiorini. He is unlikely to break into the City team so either a good loan or a permanent transfer would suit him well. A Championship team with promotion aspirations would be a good fit. A good run and he may break into the Scotland squad as shown by his training with the top team this week.

Hayden Hackney (20, Middlesbrough): An EPL player in waiting. Hugely successful season this year with 30+ Championship games including progression to the playoffs. Transfer rumours abound. Worryingly England qualified, although there has been no suggestion of a change of heart I hope he doesn’t choose to hedge his bets and wait it out for England as he is exceptionally classy. Another good Championship season should see him usurp Kenny McClean or possibly Ryan Jack for Scotland

Alex Lowry (19, Rangers): A disappointing year which was heavily impacted by injury and personal tragedy. I hope to see him back around the squad in 23/24 and pushing for significant minutes as well as regular bench time. An aim of 10-15 appearances with a few starts would be realistic. Much like Leon King, may struggle for any significant role however so a loan to another Premiership or a League 1 / at a stretch lower Championship level team in England may be for the best.

David Watson (18, Kilmarnock): Made a real impact at the tail end of the season, to me at least seemingly out of nowhere. 5 consecutive starts to finish the regular season and another 3 in the bottom 6. Overall 15 appearances in all competitions is a very good return. Needs to build on that next year with 25+ appearances.

Matthew Craig (20, Spurs): Made a slightly surprising appearance for Spurs on the final day of the season after benching for the previous two. An ever-present and sometime captain of their PL2 squad he looks to be ready for first team football. It seems unlikely that will be at EPL level so a loan to a Championship team would be good progress for him

Kristi Montgomery (19, Blackburn Rovers): Probably one of the more obscure names on the list but a mainstay in the Blackburn PL2 side so probably worthy of a mention. Only has a year left on his contract so it will be interesting to see if he manages to make any kind of progress in 23/24

Josh Mulligan (20, Dundee): 30+ games in the Championship, almost 100 career appearances including 10+ in the Premiership he’ll get to show if he has enough to be a Premiership level player in 23/24. If he does well expect a transfer to be forthcoming

Marc Leonard (21, Brighton): Made a massive 45 appearances in League 2 on loan from Brighton playing in every game bar 1 of Northampton’s season. Another loan in 23/24 should show us how good he really is – League 1 or Championship would be excellent progress

 

Attack

Ryan One (16, Hamilton): Physically very mature so able to make a real impact in men's football now. 28 appearances in all competitions in 22/23, albeit in the Championship. Should be looking for the same again next year with more goals added to really kick on. A similar number of appearances and a decent goal return will likely see a transfer mooted IMO, either to the SP or to an English youth side.

Kieron Bowie (20, Fulham): A good loan in League 2 where he played 37 times (scored 5, assisted 3). Should be looking for more loan minutes next season at a higher level, perhaps Championship but more likely League 1

Kieran Offord (19, St Mirren): 26 appearances and 4 goals in all competitions split across League 1 in the first half of the season (13 appearances 4 goals) and the Premiership (9 appearances, 0 goals) in the second half of the season. His next step is to make 15+ appearances in the Premiership and to add some goals to his game at that level

Rory MacLeod (17, Dundee United): 18 appearances this season was a good return for his age, especially since they have all been made in the second half of the season. Will be expected to play more in the Championship and to add goals to his game - might prove to be a good level for him to become United's starting centre forward, although rumours of a transfer to English youth football continue to abound

Ben Doak (17, Liverpool): Possibly the most exciting prospect of my lifetime. He had a fantastic last 18 months, playing (a small number of) minutes for Celtic before transferring to Liverpool and exceeding all expectations by first benching and then playing for the Liverpool first team. Had a frustrating end to the season with a bad brain injury but Liverpool seem to expect big things of him. A good season next year will be minutes in the cups (FA and EFL) as well as some EPL minutes. If he can hit double figures for match appearances that will be very good going – given how far he has exceeded expectations to date he may do better than even that. Any kind of consistent run for Liverpool will see him into the Scotland squad as we simply have no other player with his skillset

Dire Mebude (19, Manchester City): Ripped it up in the PL2 for City scoring 11 goals and making 13 assists. Hugely promising player but also hugely unlikely to make a first team appearance in the exceptional City first team. Perhaps a loan, although a permanent transfer to PSV has been rumoured. If he makes a first team impact at a decent level he should be fast tracked to the Scotland first team as again he offers a skillset we do not currently have in the squad

Ethan Laidlaw (18, Hibs): I haven’t included many Scotland-based players yet to make an impact on the adult game but Laidlaw is too good to miss out. Although he failed to make a senior minute, he did bench for Hibs several times in 2023. Rumours surrounding a transfer to English youth football are not going away so he may move before playing professionally in Scotland. Needs adult football next season if he doesn’t move to England

Rory Wilson (17, Aston Villa): Another of the players on the list around which there is much excitement. Has settled well in England and scored goals at every level he has faced to date (8 in 9 at U18 level and 4 in 7 at PL2 level). Probably a little green for a loan just yet so a season predominantly in PL2 with a continuation of his good goalscoring form plus an appearance or two in the cups would be a good outcome for 23/24. He is extremely well regarded so much like Doak, any kind of run in and about a decent level of first team football may see him elevated to the Scotland full squad, although I do not expect that to happen in 23/24

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Scots_Wha_Hae said:

As a sort of culmination of the season post I have tried to put together a bit of an overview of the best young and emerging players who are currently or could be involved with the Scottish national teams. I have focused on players 21 and under and predominantly those playing at Premiership level in Scotland (with some exceptions) or those I consider to be ‘notable’ in other countries, most particularly in the English development leagues. I have likely missed loads but I hope this is a fairly comprehensive overview. It’s a little concerning if my perception of the keepers in particular is correct, as there is very little coming through. Otherwise it looks like we have a number of promising players in most positions – it will certainly be interesting to see the progress of these players over the coming season.

 

Goalkeeper

Cieran Slicker (20, Manchester City): Loaned to Rochdale in League 2 and didn’t play a single league minute – a bit of a disaster really. One many of us had high hopes might be a future international but on this showing he has a lot of work to do even to make a professional career. Needs to play football next year or he may fade to obscurity

 

Defence

Adam Devine (20, Rangers): A decent season with 6 Premiership appearances and loads of time on the bench. Has the talent to play more often so either a loan or more gametime must be the goal in 23/24

Adam Montgomery (20, Celtic): A full season for St Johnston at Premiership level has been great progress for 22/23. It will be interesting to see what Celtic do next season in terms of a further loan or to try to push him into the first team. Clearly good enough for this level he needs to keep the progress going and not stall through limited gametime next season

Kerr Smith (18, Aston Villa): Transferred to Villa after getting some gametime at 16 for Dundee United and by all accounts has established himself well in their youth sides. Has played both U18 and PL2 level this year with good reports on each. Next season he will look to establish himself fully at PL2 level and perhaps even make the Villa squad for the cups. A loan looks unlikely at this stage with perhaps another year needed before he takes that leap.

Lewis Neilson (20, Hearts): 25 career appearances at Premiership level at 5 appearances in Europe seems to be positive however minutes have largely dried up with his last significant gametime in October 22. Probably needs a loan in 23/24 if he is not yet Premiership standard, certainly needs more games

Dylan Smith (16, Ross County): a breakthrough season for him at a very young age. 14 appearances in all competitions including 12 in the last 15 is brilliant. Hopefully continues to play next season and racks up a similar number of appearances.

Dane Murray (19, Celtic): Often been talked about as a potential first team player at Celtic but doesn’t ever seem to have got going. I am not sure what the issue was this year, potentially injury, but he more or less played no football. Next year is huge for him, another year without notable experience and his chance may be gone

Max Johnston (19, Motherwell): Smashed his way into the first team at Motherwell after Christmas following a second loan at Championship level. Has been very influential in the second half of the season at Premiership level, making 18 appearances, scoring 3 goals and making 3 assists. Strong rumours of a potential transfer with the well-trod path via Bologna in particular a mentioned option

Josh Doig (21, Verona): 22 Serie A appearances (2 goals, 4 assists) is a brilliant return and great progression from his 50+ Premiership appearances from Hibs. He fell out the team a bit at the end of the season due to a combination of injury issues and a manager change. Speculation about another transfer but he could do with re-establishing himself in the Verona team first. Another good year in Serie A and he can start thinking about full Scotland honours – already not too far away after his squad appearances this year

Liam Morrison (20, Bayern Munich): Surprised even those of us that keep tabs of youth players by making the bench for Bayern towards the end of the season. Despite the fact Bayern were undergoing somewhat of an injury crisis at the time, he was the player from the youth sides selected to take the bench place so the achievement is not to be underestimated. It has been rumoured a loan may be on the cards for 23/24 after a season at Regionalliga Bayern (a regional 4th tier league), it would certainly be good to see how he fares in men’s football

Jeremiah Chilokoa-Mullen (18, Leeds): Caught the eye when he benched a few times for Leeds in the EPL although he didn’t make the pitch. A decent PL2 season with 14 appearances, next year in the Championship he should be looking towards the first team for the cups and perhaps benching in the league. A loan post-Christmas might be on the cards to a lower level, League 2 might suit

Ibane Bowat (20, Fulham): On loan in the second half of this year in the Dutch second division for Den Bosch where he played almost every game he was available. A good experience and he should be seeking further men’s football next year at a higher level, maybe League 1 or Championship in England

Leon King (19, Rangers): A tough job on his hands to break into the Rangers first team but of all their youth players he currently looks one of the most likely. After a great run of games in the first half of the season (largely, I think, due to injuries in the wider Rangers squad) he didn’t feature too much after Christmas. If Rangers go on a signing spree this summer he may be better to seek a loan to build his experience. He is too good for the Scottish Championship so either the Premiership up here or the Championship in England would be a good test for him. Has the talent and ability to break into the Scotland squad over the next 18 months – a good loan could secure that

Harrison Ashby (21, Newcastle): Made a slightly surprising transfer from West Ham to Newcastle where he has featured rarely with a couple of European appearances the totality of his minutes this season. Has benched a few times in the EPL but is well behind Kieran Trippier for that slot. Another that could do with a loan – he showed at West Ham he is potentially an EPL quality player but he won’t be unless he plays some games

Calvin Ramsay (19, Liverpool): An injury hit season that nevertheless showed great promise. Played in the Champions League against Napoli (well, for 3 minutes) as well as in the cups for a couple of games and benching in the EPL but eventually was confirmed to have a knee issue that required an operation and missed most of the post-Christmas season. Will be hoping to be in and around the squad for Liverpool next year as that is where Klopp has suggested he sits in the pecking order. With Trent latterly playing further forward he is the only recognised rightback in Liverpool’s squad – there may even be a place for him as well as Trent in a starting lineup. If not, cups, rotation and bench next season would be excellent progress. Another that any sort of run will see in the Scotland squad

 

Midfield

Josh Adam (19, Man City): may go out on loan if following similar process to likes of Fiorini. Belgian or Dutch leagues or lower league (League 1) England. We should hopefully see this coming season if his classy style at reserve league level translates to men's football as well as getting a view of his ultimate ceiling

Connor Barron (20, Aberdeen): On the face of it another good season for Barron but in reality it seems to have been more of a step backwards. After his brilliant form in 21/22 he struggled a bit with injury, missing the first few months of the season as well as a chunk towards the end culminating in largely being dropped from the team. Needs to re-establish himself next year and focus on breaking into the team permanently after possibly having his head turned by transfer talk. Nevertheless, he is a 20 year old with 62 appearances to his name including 30 at Premiership level which is a good return

Lyall Cameron (20, Dundee): 25+ games in the championship and approaching 100 career appearances he’ll be looking to show he is a Premiership standard player in 23/24

Ryan Duncan (19, Aberdeen): looking to cement himself in the Aberdeen midfield. Played 20 times this year with strong close to the season. More of the same needed next year to firmly establish his place

Bailey Rice (16, Rangers): should be aiming for 5+ appearances after making his debut this year. Not ready for a loan or significant minutes beyond the Lowland League (assuming B teams continue)

Lennon Miller (16, Motherwell): made good progress this season with 5 appearances across all competitions. Should be aiming for 15-20 appearances across all competitions next year with several starts, particularly in the league cup

Ben Summers (18, Celtic): Managed a few minutes across two games at the end of the season after largely playing with Celtic’s B team. Needs to rack up decent gametime in 23/24 so a loan is probably his next step

Dylan Reid (18, Crystal Palace): Played a couple of times for Saint Mirren before moving to Crystal Palace U18s at the start of the year. Has played well at that level and has also played at PL2 level albeit briefly. Will be hoping for more PL2 starts next season

Lewis Fiorini (21, Manchester City): Unfortunately an injury disrupted season in the English Championship for Blackpool this season after a succession of very promising loans. Got back into the team at the tail end of the season but finished with only 13 appearances, probably less than half of what he hoped for. With around 100 appearances in men’s football, next season is a big deal for Fiorini. He is unlikely to break into the City team so either a good loan or a permanent transfer would suit him well. A Championship team with promotion aspirations would be a good fit. A good run and he may break into the Scotland squad as shown by his training with the top team this week.

Hayden Hackney (20, Middlesbrough): An EPL player in waiting. Hugely successful season this year with 30+ Championship games including progression to the playoffs. Transfer rumours abound. Worryingly England qualified, although there has been no suggestion of a change of heart I hope he doesn’t choose to hedge his bets and wait it out for England as he is exceptionally classy. Another good Championship season should see him usurp Kenny McClean or possibly Ryan Jack for Scotland

Alex Lowry (19, Rangers): A disappointing year which was heavily impacted by injury and personal tragedy. I hope to see him back around the squad in 23/24 and pushing for significant minutes as well as regular bench time. An aim of 10-15 appearances with a few starts would be realistic. Much like Leon King, may struggle for any significant role however so a loan to another Premiership or a League 1 / at a stretch lower Championship level team in England may be for the best.

David Watson (18, Kilmarnock): Made a real impact at the tail end of the season, to me at least seemingly out of nowhere. 5 consecutive starts to finish the regular season and another 3 in the bottom 6. Overall 15 appearances in all competitions is a very good return. Needs to build on that next year with 25+ appearances.

Matthew Craig (20, Spurs): Made a slightly surprising appearance for Spurs on the final day of the season after benching for the previous two. An ever-present and sometime captain of their PL2 squad he looks to be ready for first team football. It seems unlikely that will be at EPL level so a loan to a Championship team would be good progress for him

Kristi Montgomery (19, Blackburn Rovers): Probably one of the more obscure names on the list but a mainstay in the Blackburn PL2 side so probably worthy of a mention. Only has a year left on his contract so it will be interesting to see if he manages to make any kind of progress in 23/24

Josh Mulligan (20, Dundee): 30+ games in the Championship, almost 100 career appearances including 10+ in the Premiership he’ll get to show if he has enough to be a Premiership level player in 23/24. If he does well expect a transfer to be forthcoming

Marc Leonard (21, Brighton): Made a massive 45 appearances in League 2 on loan from Brighton playing in every game bar 1 of Northampton’s season. Another loan in 23/24 should show us how good he really is – League 1 or Championship would be excellent progress

 

Attack

Ryan One (16, Hamilton): Physically very mature so able to make a real impact in men's football now. 28 appearances in all competitions in 22/23, albeit in the Championship. Should be looking for the same again next year with more goals added to really kick on. A similar number of appearances and a decent goal return will likely see a transfer mooted IMO, either to the SP or to an English youth side.

Kieron Bowie (20, Fulham): A good loan in League 2 where he played 37 times (scored 5, assisted 3). Should be looking for more loan minutes next season at a higher level, perhaps Championship but more likely League 1

Kieran Offord (19, St Mirren): 26 appearances and 4 goals in all competitions split across League 1 in the first half of the season (13 appearances 4 goals) and the Premiership (9 appearances, 0 goals) in the second half of the season. His next step is to make 15+ appearances in the Premiership and to add some goals to his game at that level

Rory MacLeod (17, Dundee United): 18 appearances this season was a good return for his age, especially since they have all been made in the second half of the season. Will be expected to play more in the Championship and to add goals to his game - might prove to be a good level for him to become United's starting centre forward, although rumours of a transfer to English youth football continue to abound

Ben Doak (17, Liverpool): Possibly the most exciting prospect of my lifetime. He had a fantastic last 18 months, playing (a small number of) minutes for Celtic before transferring to Liverpool and exceeding all expectations by first benching and then playing for the Liverpool first team. Had a frustrating end to the season with a bad brain injury but Liverpool seem to expect big things of him. A good season next year will be minutes in the cups (FA and EFL) as well as some EPL minutes. If he can hit double figures for match appearances that will be very good going – given how far he has exceeded expectations to date he may do better than even that. Any kind of consistent run for Liverpool will see him into the Scotland squad as we simply have no other player with his skillset

Dire Mebude (19, Manchester City): Ripped it up in the PL2 for City scoring 11 goals and making 13 assists. Hugely promising player but also hugely unlikely to make a first team appearance in the exceptional City first team. Perhaps a loan, although a permanent transfer to PSV has been rumoured. If he makes a first team impact at a decent level he should be fast tracked to the Scotland first team as again he offers a skillset we do not currently have in the squad

Ethan Laidlaw (18, Hibs): I haven’t included many Scotland-based players yet to make an impact on the adult game but Laidlaw is too good to miss out. Although he failed to make a senior minute, he did bench for Hibs several times in 2023. Rumours surrounding a transfer to English youth football are not going away so he may move before playing professionally in Scotland. Needs adult football next season if he doesn’t move to England

Rory Wilson (17, Aston Villa): Another of the players on the list around which there is much excitement. Has settled well in England and scored goals at every level he has faced to date (8 in 9 at U18 level and 4 in 7 at PL2 level). Probably a little green for a loan just yet so a season predominantly in PL2 with a continuation of his good goalscoring form plus an appearance or two in the cups would be a good outcome for 23/24. He is extremely well regarded so much like Doak, any kind of run in and about a decent level of first team football may see him elevated to the Scotland full squad, although I do not expect that to happen in 23/24

 

 

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Excellent read trying to see who has not been added, Rory Mahady Leeds Keeper, Robbie Hemfrey Championship appearance free agent, Mccracken Norwich was excellent until injured at Stevenage in L2, Long Lincoln keeper, Jack Kingdon Man utd, Arron Lyall Rangers, Matthew Anderson Celtic, Essosa West Brom, Malachi Sharpe Man utd, I would have to look back at posts as there is a lot of guys that have joined Prem or Champ. Sides recently.

I also find it interesting Norwich have the biggest influence on Scottish keeper futures all have done well on loan or with them Gunn, Mccracken and Mair.

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5 hours ago, csinclair said:

Could add Archie Mair, Jude Smith, Jay Hogarth, Jack Newman & Vincent Angelini to the goalkeepers

Mair is too old (for my arbitrary rules!), but smith, Hogarth and Angelini are worth watching. I don’t think any have made a first team impact at a high level but Hogarth has played a full League 1 season in Scotland and Smith has played a decent number of PL2 appearances.

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3 hours ago, immcinto said:

Others are:
Barry Hepburn, Charlie MacArthur, Louis Jackson

McArthur’s season has been disappointing with only a few appearances at U18 EPL level, not sure if he was maybe injured?

Jackson has played loads at U18 EPL and also made a PL2 appearance, more PL2 next year you would hope.

Hepburn I’ve heard either got or is getting a new contract but I don’t think it’s been confirmed publicly yet? He’s been playing for Bayern’s U19s which is a level below Morrison. Next step is either to go up a level to the regional league or else probably move on.

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1 hour ago, syecosse said:

Excellent read trying to see who has not been added, Rory Mahady Leeds Keeper, Robbie Hemfrey Championship appearance free agent, Mccracken Norwich was excellent until injured at Stevenage in L2, Long Lincoln keeper, Jack Kingdon Man utd, Arron Lyall Rangers, Matthew Anderson Celtic, Essosa West Brom, Malachi Sharpe Man utd, I would have to look back at posts as there is a lot of guys that have joined Prem or Champ. Sides recently.

I also find it interesting Norwich have the biggest influence on Scottish keeper futures all have done well on loan or with them Gunn, Mccracken and Mair.

Mahady has made a few U18 appearances for Leeds.

Hemfry I didn’t know. Benched a lot in the English Championship and 1 start. Interesting to see if he moves on or gets resigned. First team football would be the goal you would imagine.

McCracken too old at 23 now.

kingdon another EPL U18 player with a decent number of games. Sharpe also at that level but barely played this year.

Neither of the OF boys have played senior football I think?

Sule at EPL U18 level but got one PL2 game which is good for his age, worth watching.

All good suggestions. 

 

 

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Just about fits into this criteria as a 21 year old but next season will be a big one for Luis Binks (left footed centre back) at Bologna.
Played on loan at Como in Serie B last season and in an interview this week with the Daily Record he said a Scotland call up is his target.

“It does feel a bit like I’m the Scot in Italy who no one in Scotland really knows about! Obviously, I’m English-born and that’s clearly a factor. People hear my accent and wouldn’t know that I’m eligible for Scotland. 

“But I’m Scottish as well. I hope I’ve got a chance to be involved with the national team. I definitely want it – but it’s whether Scotland wants me?

“My grandad Richard was Scottish, from Dunbar. I actually spoke to someone from the SFA a few months ago and told them I’d like to play for Scotland. There seems to be a perception that I have said no before.

“But that’s not the case, I’d never say no to Scotland. If the opportunity ever came up, of course I’d want to be part of it. 

“I had a positive experience with Scotland when I was involved at Under-16 and Under-18 level. The group of boys I played with were great. I learned back then that the Scottish lads are so down to earth.

“When you go away with other countries, they can be a bit big-time. “I’m not like that.

“I fit in with the Scottish boys a lot more than I did when I went away with England. I look at lads like Gilmour and Patterson and they’re so grounded.

“Obviously I know Aaron and he’s very level-headed as well. That’s why I’d like to be part of it.

“From the outside, the camp looks so positive right now. I watched the win over Spain at Hampden and it was rocking that night.

“That definitely appeals to me. But for me to get an opportunity I know I need to do well in Italy

“If I do that next season, I might get a call-up.

“My grandad would be so proud if I played for Scotland, as well as all his family up there. My mum – my grandad’s daughter – would take us there when we were kids to see him. She’s always tried to keep the Scottish going in me.”

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7 hours ago, csinclair said:

Just about fits into this criteria as a 21 year old but next season will be a big one for Luis Binks (left footed centre back) at Bologna.
Played on loan at Como in Serie B last season and in an interview this week with the Daily Record he said a Scotland call up is his target.

“It does feel a bit like I’m the Scot in Italy who no one in Scotland really knows about! Obviously, I’m English-born and that’s clearly a factor. People hear my accent and wouldn’t know that I’m eligible for Scotland. 

“But I’m Scottish as well. I hope I’ve got a chance to be involved with the national team. I definitely want it – but it’s whether Scotland wants me?

“My grandad Richard was Scottish, from Dunbar. I actually spoke to someone from the SFA a few months ago and told them I’d like to play for Scotland. There seems to be a perception that I have said no before.

“But that’s not the case, I’d never say no to Scotland. If the opportunity ever came up, of course I’d want to be part of it. 

“I had a positive experience with Scotland when I was involved at Under-16 and Under-18 level. The group of boys I played with were great. I learned back then that the Scottish lads are so down to earth.

“When you go away with other countries, they can be a bit big-time. “I’m not like that.

“I fit in with the Scottish boys a lot more than I did when I went away with England. I look at lads like Gilmour and Patterson and they’re so grounded.

“Obviously I know Aaron and he’s very level-headed as well. That’s why I’d like to be part of it.

“From the outside, the camp looks so positive right now. I watched the win over Spain at Hampden and it was rocking that night.

“That definitely appeals to me. But for me to get an opportunity I know I need to do well in Italy

“If I do that next season, I might get a call-up.

“My grandad would be so proud if I played for Scotland, as well as all his family up there. My mum – my grandad’s daughter – would take us there when we were kids to see him. She’s always tried to keep the Scottish going in me.” 

Love this thread, so special thanks to guy that started it with such a in-depth post. Also good job from all the others who've added players.

     Another great post from yourself also, I thought when Binks was at Spurs he didn't want to commit to a national team but now he is a couple of years older it's good to hear his positive experiences with Scotland & that he wants to play for us. 

   I believe he had a good season in Serie B so if he can establish himself as a regular Serie A starter he could turn out to be a great player for us. 

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I find it very interesting that only a few Celtic youths made it onto the list. It really wasn't that long ago that Celtic propped up the national team. Even now, a huge portion of the seniors spent some time at the Celtic academy. Ange Postecoglou has a lot to answer for.

I'm quite intrigued to see who their next manager is, though it would be pretty difficult to do less than Ange did for Scots.

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2 hours ago, Tartan blood said:

I find it very interesting that only a few Celtic youths made it onto the list. It really wasn't that long ago that Celtic propped up the national team. Even now, a huge portion of the seniors spent some time at the Celtic academy. Ange Postecoglou has a lot to answer for.

I'm quite intrigued to see who their next manager is, though it would be pretty difficult to do less than Ange did for Scots.

That’s possibly more to do with my selection criteria in Scotland which was mainly around first team football rather than talent. With the combination of B teams seemly reducing higher level loans and the inherent increased difficulty of getting into Celtic’s first team over any other non-OF first team, I don’t think it necessarily suggests a lack of talent or good development at Celtic. It does very much highlight the prolific and long-standing issue in Scotland of lack of realistic pathways though. The huge outflow of the best from youth football in Scotland recently is at least partly a reaction to that lack of pathway.

Although the other teams are slightly less guilty of this due to the necessity of their smaller budgets, it is still a big problem there too. Just the other day I was reading quotes from Hibs in relation to their potential City Group tie in where they were claiming they had 4 or 5 of the best 16 year olds in the country but they couldn’t play them because they were 16. That was it, not that they were less talented or whatever, just that they were too young. In the top youth development environments, say Barcelona, that is not an issue. 16 year olds will get a chance if they are good enough, hell they played a bloody 15 year old this year. Yes they have transfer difficulties but they could certainly buy their way out of those more easily than playing 15 year olds, it was a development and cultural choice to take that risk. We don’t have that anywhere in Scotland.

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On 6/7/2023 at 3:39 PM, Scots_Wha_Hae said:

As a sort of culmination of the season post I have tried to put together a bit of an overview of the best young and emerging players who are currently or could be involved with the Scottish national teams. I have focused on players 21 and under and predominantly those playing at Premiership level in Scotland (with some exceptions) or those I consider to be ‘notable’ in other countries, most particularly in the English development leagues. I have likely missed loads but I hope this is a fairly comprehensive overview. It’s a little concerning if my perception of the keepers in particular is correct, as there is very little coming through. Otherwise it looks like we have a number of promising players in most positions – it will certainly be interesting to see the progress of these players over the coming season.

 

Goalkeeper

Cieran Slicker (20, Manchester City): Loaned to Rochdale in League 2 and didn’t play a single league minute – a bit of a disaster really. One many of us had high hopes might be a future international but on this showing he has a lot of work to do even to make a professional career. Needs to play football next year or he may fade to obscurity

 

Defence

Adam Devine (20, Rangers): A decent season with 6 Premiership appearances and loads of time on the bench. Has the talent to play more often so either a loan or more gametime must be the goal in 23/24

Adam Montgomery (20, Celtic): A full season for St Johnston at Premiership level has been great progress for 22/23. It will be interesting to see what Celtic do next season in terms of a further loan or to try to push him into the first team. Clearly good enough for this level he needs to keep the progress going and not stall through limited gametime next season

Kerr Smith (18, Aston Villa): Transferred to Villa after getting some gametime at 16 for Dundee United and by all accounts has established himself well in their youth sides. Has played both U18 and PL2 level this year with good reports on each. Next season he will look to establish himself fully at PL2 level and perhaps even make the Villa squad for the cups. A loan looks unlikely at this stage with perhaps another year needed before he takes that leap.

Lewis Neilson (20, Hearts): 25 career appearances at Premiership level at 5 appearances in Europe seems to be positive however minutes have largely dried up with his last significant gametime in October 22. Probably needs a loan in 23/24 if he is not yet Premiership standard, certainly needs more games

Dylan Smith (16, Ross County): a breakthrough season for him at a very young age. 14 appearances in all competitions including 12 in the last 15 is brilliant. Hopefully continues to play next season and racks up a similar number of appearances.

Dane Murray (19, Celtic): Often been talked about as a potential first team player at Celtic but doesn’t ever seem to have got going. I am not sure what the issue was this year, potentially injury, but he more or less played no football. Next year is huge for him, another year without notable experience and his chance may be gone

Max Johnston (19, Motherwell): Smashed his way into the first team at Motherwell after Christmas following a second loan at Championship level. Has been very influential in the second half of the season at Premiership level, making 18 appearances, scoring 3 goals and making 3 assists. Strong rumours of a potential transfer with the well-trod path via Bologna in particular a mentioned option

Josh Doig (21, Verona): 22 Serie A appearances (2 goals, 4 assists) is a brilliant return and great progression from his 50+ Premiership appearances from Hibs. He fell out the team a bit at the end of the season due to a combination of injury issues and a manager change. Speculation about another transfer but he could do with re-establishing himself in the Verona team first. Another good year in Serie A and he can start thinking about full Scotland honours – already not too far away after his squad appearances this year

Liam Morrison (20, Bayern Munich): Surprised even those of us that keep tabs of youth players by making the bench for Bayern towards the end of the season. Despite the fact Bayern were undergoing somewhat of an injury crisis at the time, he was the player from the youth sides selected to take the bench place so the achievement is not to be underestimated. It has been rumoured a loan may be on the cards for 23/24 after a season at Regionalliga Bayern (a regional 4th tier league), it would certainly be good to see how he fares in men’s football

Jeremiah Chilokoa-Mullen (18, Leeds): Caught the eye when he benched a few times for Leeds in the EPL although he didn’t make the pitch. A decent PL2 season with 14 appearances, next year in the Championship he should be looking towards the first team for the cups and perhaps benching in the league. A loan post-Christmas might be on the cards to a lower level, League 2 might suit

Ibane Bowat (20, Fulham): On loan in the second half of this year in the Dutch second division for Den Bosch where he played almost every game he was available. A good experience and he should be seeking further men’s football next year at a higher level, maybe League 1 or Championship in England

Leon King (19, Rangers): A tough job on his hands to break into the Rangers first team but of all their youth players he currently looks one of the most likely. After a great run of games in the first half of the season (largely, I think, due to injuries in the wider Rangers squad) he didn’t feature too much after Christmas. If Rangers go on a signing spree this summer he may be better to seek a loan to build his experience. He is too good for the Scottish Championship so either the Premiership up here or the Championship in England would be a good test for him. Has the talent and ability to break into the Scotland squad over the next 18 months – a good loan could secure that

Harrison Ashby (21, Newcastle): Made a slightly surprising transfer from West Ham to Newcastle where he has featured rarely with a couple of European appearances the totality of his minutes this season. Has benched a few times in the EPL but is well behind Kieran Trippier for that slot. Another that could do with a loan – he showed at West Ham he is potentially an EPL quality player but he won’t be unless he plays some games

Calvin Ramsay (19, Liverpool): An injury hit season that nevertheless showed great promise. Played in the Champions League against Napoli (well, for 3 minutes) as well as in the cups for a couple of games and benching in the EPL but eventually was confirmed to have a knee issue that required an operation and missed most of the post-Christmas season. Will be hoping to be in and around the squad for Liverpool next year as that is where Klopp has suggested he sits in the pecking order. With Trent latterly playing further forward he is the only recognised rightback in Liverpool’s squad – there may even be a place for him as well as Trent in a starting lineup. If not, cups, rotation and bench next season would be excellent progress. Another that any sort of run will see in the Scotland squad

 

Midfield

Josh Adam (19, Man City): may go out on loan if following similar process to likes of Fiorini. Belgian or Dutch leagues or lower league (League 1) England. We should hopefully see this coming season if his classy style at reserve league level translates to men's football as well as getting a view of his ultimate ceiling

Connor Barron (20, Aberdeen): On the face of it another good season for Barron but in reality it seems to have been more of a step backwards. After his brilliant form in 21/22 he struggled a bit with injury, missing the first few months of the season as well as a chunk towards the end culminating in largely being dropped from the team. Needs to re-establish himself next year and focus on breaking into the team permanently after possibly having his head turned by transfer talk. Nevertheless, he is a 20 year old with 62 appearances to his name including 30 at Premiership level which is a good return

Lyall Cameron (20, Dundee): 25+ games in the championship and approaching 100 career appearances he’ll be looking to show he is a Premiership standard player in 23/24

Ryan Duncan (19, Aberdeen): looking to cement himself in the Aberdeen midfield. Played 20 times this year with strong close to the season. More of the same needed next year to firmly establish his place

Bailey Rice (16, Rangers): should be aiming for 5+ appearances after making his debut this year. Not ready for a loan or significant minutes beyond the Lowland League (assuming B teams continue)

Lennon Miller (16, Motherwell): made good progress this season with 5 appearances across all competitions. Should be aiming for 15-20 appearances across all competitions next year with several starts, particularly in the league cup

Ben Summers (18, Celtic): Managed a few minutes across two games at the end of the season after largely playing with Celtic’s B team. Needs to rack up decent gametime in 23/24 so a loan is probably his next step

Dylan Reid (18, Crystal Palace): Played a couple of times for Saint Mirren before moving to Crystal Palace U18s at the start of the year. Has played well at that level and has also played at PL2 level albeit briefly. Will be hoping for more PL2 starts next season

Lewis Fiorini (21, Manchester City): Unfortunately an injury disrupted season in the English Championship for Blackpool this season after a succession of very promising loans. Got back into the team at the tail end of the season but finished with only 13 appearances, probably less than half of what he hoped for. With around 100 appearances in men’s football, next season is a big deal for Fiorini. He is unlikely to break into the City team so either a good loan or a permanent transfer would suit him well. A Championship team with promotion aspirations would be a good fit. A good run and he may break into the Scotland squad as shown by his training with the top team this week.

Hayden Hackney (20, Middlesbrough): An EPL player in waiting. Hugely successful season this year with 30+ Championship games including progression to the playoffs. Transfer rumours abound. Worryingly England qualified, although there has been no suggestion of a change of heart I hope he doesn’t choose to hedge his bets and wait it out for England as he is exceptionally classy. Another good Championship season should see him usurp Kenny McClean or possibly Ryan Jack for Scotland

Alex Lowry (19, Rangers): A disappointing year which was heavily impacted by injury and personal tragedy. I hope to see him back around the squad in 23/24 and pushing for significant minutes as well as regular bench time. An aim of 10-15 appearances with a few starts would be realistic. Much like Leon King, may struggle for any significant role however so a loan to another Premiership or a League 1 / at a stretch lower Championship level team in England may be for the best.

David Watson (18, Kilmarnock): Made a real impact at the tail end of the season, to me at least seemingly out of nowhere. 5 consecutive starts to finish the regular season and another 3 in the bottom 6. Overall 15 appearances in all competitions is a very good return. Needs to build on that next year with 25+ appearances.

Matthew Craig (20, Spurs): Made a slightly surprising appearance for Spurs on the final day of the season after benching for the previous two. An ever-present and sometime captain of their PL2 squad he looks to be ready for first team football. It seems unlikely that will be at EPL level so a loan to a Championship team would be good progress for him

Kristi Montgomery (19, Blackburn Rovers): Probably one of the more obscure names on the list but a mainstay in the Blackburn PL2 side so probably worthy of a mention. Only has a year left on his contract so it will be interesting to see if he manages to make any kind of progress in 23/24

Josh Mulligan (20, Dundee): 30+ games in the Championship, almost 100 career appearances including 10+ in the Premiership he’ll get to show if he has enough to be a Premiership level player in 23/24. If he does well expect a transfer to be forthcoming

Marc Leonard (21, Brighton): Made a massive 45 appearances in League 2 on loan from Brighton playing in every game bar 1 of Northampton’s season. Another loan in 23/24 should show us how good he really is – League 1 or Championship would be excellent progress

 

Attack

Ryan One (16, Hamilton): Physically very mature so able to make a real impact in men's football now. 28 appearances in all competitions in 22/23, albeit in the Championship. Should be looking for the same again next year with more goals added to really kick on. A similar number of appearances and a decent goal return will likely see a transfer mooted IMO, either to the SP or to an English youth side.

Kieron Bowie (20, Fulham): A good loan in League 2 where he played 37 times (scored 5, assisted 3). Should be looking for more loan minutes next season at a higher level, perhaps Championship but more likely League 1

Kieran Offord (19, St Mirren): 26 appearances and 4 goals in all competitions split across League 1 in the first half of the season (13 appearances 4 goals) and the Premiership (9 appearances, 0 goals) in the second half of the season. His next step is to make 15+ appearances in the Premiership and to add some goals to his game at that level

Rory MacLeod (17, Dundee United): 18 appearances this season was a good return for his age, especially since they have all been made in the second half of the season. Will be expected to play more in the Championship and to add goals to his game - might prove to be a good level for him to become United's starting centre forward, although rumours of a transfer to English youth football continue to abound

Ben Doak (17, Liverpool): Possibly the most exciting prospect of my lifetime. He had a fantastic last 18 months, playing (a small number of) minutes for Celtic before transferring to Liverpool and exceeding all expectations by first benching and then playing for the Liverpool first team. Had a frustrating end to the season with a bad brain injury but Liverpool seem to expect big things of him. A good season next year will be minutes in the cups (FA and EFL) as well as some EPL minutes. If he can hit double figures for match appearances that will be very good going – given how far he has exceeded expectations to date he may do better than even that. Any kind of consistent run for Liverpool will see him into the Scotland squad as we simply have no other player with his skillset

Dire Mebude (19, Manchester City): Ripped it up in the PL2 for City scoring 11 goals and making 13 assists. Hugely promising player but also hugely unlikely to make a first team appearance in the exceptional City first team. Perhaps a loan, although a permanent transfer to PSV has been rumoured. If he makes a first team impact at a decent level he should be fast tracked to the Scotland first team as again he offers a skillset we do not currently have in the squad

Ethan Laidlaw (18, Hibs): I haven’t included many Scotland-based players yet to make an impact on the adult game but Laidlaw is too good to miss out. Although he failed to make a senior minute, he did bench for Hibs several times in 2023. Rumours surrounding a transfer to English youth football are not going away so he may move before playing professionally in Scotland. Needs adult football next season if he doesn’t move to England

Rory Wilson (17, Aston Villa): Another of the players on the list around which there is much excitement. Has settled well in England and scored goals at every level he has faced to date (8 in 9 at U18 level and 4 in 7 at PL2 level). Probably a little green for a loan just yet so a season predominantly in PL2 with a continuation of his good goalscoring form plus an appearance or two in the cups would be a good outcome for 23/24. He is extremely well regarded so much like Doak, any kind of run in and about a decent level of first team football may see him elevated to the Scotland full squad, although I do not expect that to happen in 23/24

 

 

Fantastic post 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 

So many players of very high quality ⬆️ 

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Dire Mebude (19, Manchester City): Ripped it up in the PL2 for City scoring 11 goals and making 13 assists. Hugely promising player but also hugely unlikely to make a first team appearance in the exceptional City first team. Perhaps a loan, although a permanent transfer to PSV has been rumoured. If he makes a first team impact at a decent level he should be fast tracked to the Scotland first team as again he offers a skillset we do not currently have in the squad 

 

Dire Mebude now signed for Belgium team KVC Westerlo with Man City having something in the contract to say they can buy back if/when they please……

Here’s hoping he kicks on and pulls on the dark blue 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 soon, as I think Nigeria could well come sniffing!! 

He’ll be 20 when Euro 2024 comes round but I can’t see S.Clarke making any radical squad selections for the Euro’s 

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6 hours ago, broraboy said:

Scots_Wha_Hae 

Can you change the post to ( Youth Progress 2023 / 2024 season ) ?? 
Will be interesting to see how many of these lads big the big step up 

Sorry if I’m being thick but I don’t think so, is the post not too old to edit? I don’t see an option to do so.

I’ll try and find time for a mid-season edit around Christmas to update on how they are all doing and maybe to add a few new guys who have progressed quicker than expected and now deserve a place on the list.

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