Scotty2Hotty Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 8 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Having pretty much written him off based on his stats in all the games I haven’t watched I thought I had better watch today. Was pretty impressed but according to who scored that was his best non scoring performance of the season. Jury is still out in my opinion. Looked at Adam’s and Dykes stats and surprisingly there isn’t much between them Both are very average championship players. that leaves us Shankland who is a well above average SPL player and Mcburnie who is an above average EPL player. That's positive. Against West Ham anyway he looked very good. Whats the stats saying to put you off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 48 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Having pretty much written him off based on his stats in all the games I haven’t watched I thought I had better watch today. Was pretty impressed but according to who scored that was his best non scoring performance of the season. Jury is still out in my opinion. Looked at Adam’s and Dykes stats and surprisingly there isn’t much between them Both are very average championship players. that leaves us Shankland who is a well above average SPL player and Mcburnie who is an above average EPL player. Good that you made the effort to watch. My only live viewing was for our under 21's . Like I've said before plenty Bristol city fans blame the manager for negative tactics for his average season, there's also a few saying he has been effected by his best mate Alex Scott being sold to Bournemouth. Give the lad time , my gut feeling is he will be good enough for us though that's mainly based on what he is up against. I like the little McBurnie comment, whereas I think he is decent I'm not sure about the above average EPL😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 57 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Having pretty much written him off based on his stats in all the games I haven’t watched I thought I had better watch today. Was pretty impressed but according to who scored that was his best non scoring performance of the season. Jury is still out in my opinion. Looked at Adam’s and Dykes stats and surprisingly there isn’t much between them Both are very average championship players. that leaves us Shankland who is a well above average SPL player and Mcburnie who is an above average EPL player. Good that you made the effort to watch. My only live viewing was for our under 21's . Like I've said before plenty Bristol city fans blame the manager for negative tactics for his average season, there's also a few saying he has been effected by his best mate Alex Scott being sold to Bournemouth. Give the lad time , my gut feeling is he will be good enough for us though that's mainly based on what he is up against. I like the little McBurnie comment, whereas I think he is decent I'm not sure about the above average EPL😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Scotty2Hotty said: That's positive. Against West Ham anyway he looked very good. Whats the stats saying to put you off? Got a season average of 6.47 on who scored who rate players on their contributions in games. He's good at finishing, scoring with his head and holding on to the ball. He is rubbish in aerial duels and contributes nothing defensively, the latter is a big no for me in international football even more so for a team as defensively poor as we are. Did he play well against West Ham? Touched the ball 18 times and completed 6 out of 10 passes. Involved in 4 attacking and 2 defensive areal duels and lost them all. He was dispossessed once and committed one foul. Was caught offside once. Only thing other than score he did was successfully take a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, theabsentee said: Good that you made the effort to watch. My only live viewing was for our under 21's . Like I've said before plenty Bristol city fans blame the manager for negative tactics for his average season, there's also a few saying he has been effected by his best mate Alex Scott being sold to Bournemouth. Give the lad time , my gut feeling is he will be good enough for us though that's mainly based on what he is up against. I like the little McBurnie comment, whereas I think he is decent I'm not sure about the above average EPL😊 Fans of a club are far more likely to know how good a player is or can become so that's probably the best measure. I usually try and mix stats and fans ratings McBurnie has 4 goals and two assists in 900 minutes this season. Also been sent off twice mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 11 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Got a season average of 6.47 on who scored who rate players on their contributions in games. He's good at finishing, scoring with his head and holding on to the ball. He is rubbish in aerial duels and contributes nothing defensively, the latter is a big no for me in international football even more so for a team as defensively poor as we are. Did he play well against West Ham? Touched the ball 18 times and completed 6 out of 10 passes. Involved in 4 attacking and 2 defensive areal duels and lost them all. He was dispossessed once and committed one foul. Was caught offside once. Only thing other than score he did was successfully take a corner. I think you can only take so much from these stats, for example he ain't the tallest so if he is an aerial duel with a CB that is 6ft 5 then most strikers won't win that battle. Going on the eye test, he looked like a good player to me, trying to make the correct runs into the channels, making space for others etc that won't be on those stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Harvey Barnes excellent today, make it happen Stevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Che Adams getting some abuse from the Southampton faithful online, he missed 2 sitters from inside the six yard box & they conceded a late equaliser . We've said it enough times good player but finishing is his weak point. Ross Stewart is back in training, too late realistically but if was to make it back into the team & bag a couple of goals in the league or play offs I think Clarke should seriously think about taking him especially if the squads too be 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Mcburnie with a goal. Let's get him back in lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Goal and an assist for our only top flight striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Two for McBurnie.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 22 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Two for McBurnie.... Scrap that. No Christie and no McGinn today 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 13 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Scrap that. No Christie and no McGinn today 👀 McGinn suspended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 As an unused sub again today, Patterson has to be a huge worry. If he gets little to no minutes before the Euros, Clarke can't possibly take him and will have to go with Ralston as backup to Hickey. We can only hope Dyche gets sacked. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 14 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Scrap that. No Christie and no McGinn today 👀 What did we do to these guys during the international break? 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, BryanBlessed said: As an unused sub again today, Patterson has to be a huge worry. If he gets little to no minutes before the Euros, Clarke can't possibly take him and will have to go with Ralston as backup to Hickey. We can only hope Dyche gets sacked. .Dyche obviously thinks Patterson is ok for a quick slap around the head, Benny Hill style. Nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: As an unused sub again today, Patterson has to be a huge worry. If he gets little to no minutes before the Euros, Clarke can't possibly take him and will have to go with Ralston as backup to Hickey. We can only hope Dyche gets sacked. . Colemon OG too and loss so if he cant get in now then he is fucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Remember when we used to be concerned with our players game time? Now we're apparently all concerned about their 'minutes' New buzzword/phrase alert, to be filed up there with 'final third' and 'decision making' 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Scotty2Hotty said: Colemon OG too and loss so if he cant get in now then he is fucked Most fans say he should be at worst 2nd choice behind Coleman , they really don't rate 38 year old Ashley Young or Ben Godfrey but unfortunately Mr negative Dyche is the only opinion that seems to matters . No doubt the lads confidence is at a all time low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, BryanBlessed said: As an unused sub again today, Patterson has to be a huge worry. If he gets little to no minutes before the Euros, Clarke can't possibly take him and will have to go with Ralston as backup to Hickey. We can only hope Dyche gets sacked. . Theres still time & if not with his club the 2 June friendlies for him to find a bit of confidence, I wouldn't give up on him for the summer just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 27 minutes ago, theabsentee said: Theres still time & if not with his club the 2 June friendlies for him to find a bit of confidence, I wouldn't give up on him for the summer just yet. I really don't think a couple of friendlies are going to make the difference. There's definitely a player in there but the Euros is too soon if no more game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 55 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: I really don't think a couple of friendlies are going to make the difference. There's definitely a player in there but the Euros is too soon if no more game time. The thing with Patterson is that he isn't quite a RB, RWB, RM, RW (and not seen him in any other position) and he often looks like he doesn't quite know what to do, where to position himself, decision making can be poor alot of the times. He needs proper coaching to work on his game and really excel which I thought Dyche would provide but has seemed to make him worse if anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 58 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: I really don't think a couple of friendlies are going to make the difference. There's definitely a player in there but the Euros is too soon if no more game time. If Patterson gets no game time before the end of the season his confidence remains shot and cannot play in the Euros. If that is the scenario, as looks likely, then Patterson gets left at home and Anthony Ralston goes as back up if Aaron Hickey is fit of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: If Patterson gets no game time before the end of the season his confidence remains shot and cannot play in the Euros. If that is the scenario, as looks likely, then Patterson gets left at home and Anthony Ralston goes as back up if Aaron Hickey is fit of course. Patterson has been picked by Clarke in pretty much every squad he has picked so can't see him suddenly dropping him. There's others not playing regularly for club teams that will 100% be going to the euros too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 25 minutes ago, Scotty2Hotty said: Patterson has been picked by Clarke in pretty much every squad he has picked so can't see him suddenly dropping him. There's others not playing regularly for club teams that will 100% be going to the euros too Plus, it's not like Ralston is playing every week either. Patterson and Hickey will be our choices. Ideally a fit Hickey as our first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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