exile Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Craig Murray standing for AFI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, exile said: Craig Murray standing for AFI? Are they the folk set up by one of the folk who voted against same sex marriage? That was when i withdrew my support of the SNP. They allowed a free-vote on that but made folk toe the line on other issues. He advocated a what amounted to a "separate but equal" policy So seems radical idealogy on both sides of the party. Edited March 14, 2021 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, phart said: Are they the folk set up by one of the folk who voted against same sex marriage? That was when i withdrew my support of the SNP. They allowed a free-vote on that but made folk toe the line on other issues. He advocated a what amounted to a "separate but equal" policy So seems radical idealogy on both sides of the party. I'm not sure specifically about voting against same sex marriage but its the ISP (Independence for Scotland Party) that has a platform which could broadly be described as more socially conservative that the SNP. AFI are Action for Independence, they were originally called Alliance for Independence but the Electoral Commission felt that was too ambiguous. I don't get the impression that they are a party in the traditional sense of having an agreed platform but rather an umbrella grouping for what could best be described as pro-Indy Independents, I suspect that aside from Scotland being Independent and that they don't like the SNP, it would probably be hard to get them to agree on anything. The only candidates I'm aware of are Martin Keatings, who is the guy bringing the Section 30 court case and was also involved in the Indy Camp at Holyrood, He's standing in Mid Scotland and Fife, and Craig Murray who is standing in Lothians - so you can vote for him if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 hours ago, exile said: Craig Murray standing for AFI? He says (via Twitter 1 Hour ago): "I have told the AFI alliance I am available as a candidate, but I haven't actually been adopted yet. There is an obvious case for a more Independence focused list only party. But it is really daft for the AFI and ISP to stand against each other. They urgently need to combine. Both ISP and AFI really MUST swallow pride to combine. I will happily stand aside if it helps. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 9 hours ago, exile said: He says (via Twitter 1 Hour ago): "I have told the AFI alliance I am available as a candidate, but I haven't actually been adopted yet. There is an obvious case for a more Independence focused list only party. But it is really daft for the AFI and ISP to stand against each other. They urgently need to combine. Both ISP and AFI really MUST swallow pride to combine. I will happily stand aside if it helps. " Is he saying that he is happy to stand down, when he hasn't even been selected yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I just googled AFI Scotland and it came up with a site for cherry pickers and access platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 It really is hilarious listening to the unionist parties thinking they are turning up the heat on the SNP for anything found in unionist newspapers. The finny part about it is that they rant but NEVER do we hear their plans in place to improve certain things they have issues with. It says it all. There is no plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colins96 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: It really is hilarious listening to the unionist parties thinking they are turning up the heat on the SNP for anything found in unionist newspapers. The finny part about it is that they rant but NEVER do we hear their plans in place to improve certain things they have issues with. It says it all. There is no plan. Well brexit has improved things and so has staying part of the UK union. GDP has improved Food prices going down National debt.. OK not improved but that's due to covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 I see the SNP have applied to the Electoral Commission to have some sort of message about IndyRef2 against their candidates names on the ballot paper. A smart move, it *should* shut up those "pro-Indy" naysayers who think they don't mean it, but probably won't. It does remove any arguments around "oh well, people didn't know what they were voting for and people vote for a party for all sorts of reasons" that have been trotted out in the past. If they are literally putting a cross against a box that says to the effect of "I'm voting for IndyRef2", that's an argument that's hard to stand up. I still think that they need to tie up with the Greens to make sure that whatever form of words they use in their referendums aren't open to interpretation. That was a problem in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 For anybody who still wants to know more about "Both votes SNP" versus "Gaming the voting system". James Kelly spells it out again. https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colins96 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I ll be voting for union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Hard to keep track of all the new independence parties A NEW Yes party launches today - Restore Scotland Then there's this one Scotland’s Independence Referendum Party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colins96 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, exile said: Hard to keep track of all the new independence parties A NEW Yes party launches today - Restore Scotland Then there's this one Scotland’s Independence Referendum Party Vote tory instead??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 George Galloway proving hes a bigger scumbag with each passing day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Hmm, how to decide who to vote for, the Pro-Union Anti-Holyrood Pro-Brexit Tories, the Pro-Union Actual Pro-Brexit UKIP, the Pro-Union Ex-Brexit Reform party, the Pro-Union Anti-Holyrood Actual Anti Holyrood Party, or the Pro-Union All4Galloway Party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: George Galloway proving hes a bigger scumbag with each passing day. You're not wrong. I'm not Humza Youssaf's biggest fan but Jeezo 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 George Galloway was a great lesson on when you align with someone on one issue you find reall important (for me the 2003 invasion of Iraq) how readily you ignore all their other faults and make excuses for them, just cause you agree on something of great personal value to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, exile said: A few years back I was reading about rhe Raptor situation and this mob came across terribly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 8:46 AM, phart said: George Galloway was a great lesson on when you align with someone on one issue you find reall important (for me the 2003 invasion of Iraq) how readily you ignore all their other faults and make excuses for them, just cause you agree on something of great personal value to you. Going back to this point. GG made a powerful anti-war case at the time and had millions on his side. But I wonder how may follow him across all his opinions and obsessions. There can't be too many working class gamekeepers, pro-Irish Unity anti Scottish independence, pro-Muslim British-nationalist socialist Tory collaborators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 NHS staff in Scotland to get 4% pay rise. Nice way to kick off the election campaign. I've been told the timing of the announcement is totally coincidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, Orraloon said: NHS staff in Scotland to get 4% pay rise. Nice way to kick off the election campaign. I've been told the timing of the announcement is totally coincidental. How long before a U-turn from Boris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, aaid said: How long before a U-turn from Boris? Well the Scottish Tories are trying to claim Tory credit saying its only due to Westminster upping money paid to Holyrood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 2:49 PM, Caledonian Craig said: Well the Scottish Tories are trying to claim Tory credit saying its only due to Westminster upping money paid to Holyrood. Well they should be able to give their nurses down south the same rise then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 ALBA National Candidate Launch Event next week. It's on April 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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