Orraloon Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I'm hoping that this new lineage of the virus turns out to be no more important than lots of other mutations which have already been seen. There are 1000s of different mutations which have been identified since the virus was first detected in Wuhan. For example the lineage which was dominant in the UK in August/September time was different from the dominant lineage we had the first time round. There is growing evidence that the 2nd wave was largely seeded by another new variant which was first detected in rural Spain. Those so called safe travel corridors probably turned out to be excellent virus transport corridors instead. The dominant strain currently circulating in South Africa also has 17 mutations (the same number as this new London strain) but they are different mutations. That strain was first detected in Brasil. I'm hoping that it's just coincidence that the numbers started to spike in London and the south east at around the same time that this new variant was detected. It just could be that the numbers spiked because folk got even more complacent than they already were, and it spread more quickly due to xmas shopping and festive get togethers. It's just too early to say for sure but there will be plenty scientists working overtime to try to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Yeah there's no causal link established as of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, phart said: Yeah there's no causal link established as of now. Aye, I'm just trying to stay positive for now. No really hard evidence either way yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I found this article pretty good. https://unherd.com/2020/12/how-dangerous-is-the-covid-mutation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, phart said: I found this article pretty good. https://unherd.com/2020/12/how-dangerous-is-the-covid-mutation/ Cheers, I will have a read later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I wonder how Cornwall is so bad. It was Tier 1 a few days ago. Second homers? And it seems all is not well in Wales... saw a graph (somehwere, lost it again) implying it had one of worst infection rates in world. UK coronavirus: Rate per 100,000 population over 7 days: Scotland: 116.4 N Ireland: 196.9 England: 304.2 Wales: 647.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Never thought I’d say it, but Trump was right. Southern border walls are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) ...in fact Cornwall appears to be still in Tier1 Edited December 22, 2020 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, kumnio said: Never thought I’d say it, but Trump was right. Southern border walls are needed. Either that or a sudden geological fault opening up (see maps above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, exile said: Either that or a sudden geological fault opening up (see maps above) I’ve suggested dynamiting the border before, and then sailing us somewhere nice like the Canaries. Gotta be worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, exile said: And it seems all is not well in Wales... saw a graph (somehwere, lost it again) implying it had one of worst infection rates in world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy-hay Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Will pubs be open by April? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Saint4805 said: Closing schools will translate into peeved parents voting elsewhere at the next elections. The reality is that keeping schools open jacks up the R rate and costs many lives. I'm sure the Tories would love to close public schools but keep private ones open but they can't. I'm not sure how peeved parents would have been if kids had a short time off. We are about 25 miles North of London. In the last week of term we had half the school sent home. However I reckon we only had about quarter of the others turn up. My last class of the year had 24 out of 30 students missing. I'm spite of what the Government said about mental health most parents felt it was best for their children not to be in school. Edited December 22, 2020 by Hertsscot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Covid 19 variant: Stay at home advice may be made law in new crackdown Edited December 22, 2020 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 the new mutant version lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, davy-hay said: Will pubs be open by April? Is that when you're 18? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy-hay Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 40 minutes ago, bonzo said: Is that when you're 18? Haha very good. But would mean I was 3 when I started posting on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, davy-hay said: Haha very good. But would mean I was 3 when I started posting on here Well done tae your parents then 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lairdyfaeinverclyde Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 When this thread started almost a year ago i didn't expect us to be in the situation we are in. Started reading from page 1 First ever post was a joke picture. No one knew then the shit fest that it was going to be. Find it frustrating that WCTA started this thread in January and 2 months later we know what happened, don't think he is an expert but fair play to him for highlighting the situation then. Hindsight is a great thing. What a shit year it has been and just want to wish everyone the best Christmas they can possibly have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Sturgeon caught breaking her own law re face coverings in pubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Sturgeon caught breaking her own law re face coverings in pubs. Saw this on the BBC news. Idiotic. The S*n making it front page news. Left herself wide open for a kicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Aye, she'll get a doing for this (deedpoll)change your name to Cummings....the sun always has been and always will be a cnut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, bonzo said: Aye, she'll get a doing for this (deedpoll)change your name to Cummings....the sun always has been and always will be a cnut. Ignoring the Royals breaking the rule of six and the Marquis of Bute breaking a travel ban. Scraping the barrel taking a photo like this at a wake and intruding on a family's grief. Not excusing an indiscretion she has apologised for, but this is scraping the bottom of the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Ach, she made a mistake - we all do - she's human. I've forgotten to put my mask on before going into shops, or remembered at the last minute, it happens. It's a bit embarrassing, considering she's the one stood in front of TV cameras daily telling people what they should and shouldn't be doing, but that's all it is. Christ, it isn't as if the woman doesn't have other things on her mind at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, King Of Paisley said: Ignoring the Royals breaking the rule of six and the Marquis of Bute breaking a travel ban. Scraping the barrel taking a photo like this at a wake and intruding on a family's grief. Not excusing an indiscretion she has apologised for, but this is scraping the bottom of the barrel It's the sun....sleasetastic.....between now and independence we've got to think about everything we do... Edited December 22, 2020 by bonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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