exile Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I dont think theres any result against San Marino which could have been deemed an apology. An apology would be winning the next double header, extremely unlikely but it's the only way to make up for this pish start Yes I said much the same on another thread, nicking an unexpected away point in Russia or Belgium would be more like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, TDYER63 said: The section I was standing everyone was booing and shouting abuse at the SFA. However in other areas they were clapping at the end and I just cannot understand why. Ok, I felt the players made an effort last night even though they were shite and huffed and puffed , and I can understand fans perhaps not booing, but absolutely no way did they deserve to be clapped. Ffs who out there actually thought that performance was acceptable, it really beggars belief. RB does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, exile said: Yes I said much the same on another thread, nicking an unexpected away point in Russia or Belgium would be more like it Or quitting 🤞🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, exile said: I think this is fair comment. OK maybe not "good" but "reasonable" or "sufficient" by our own standards (except if San Marino must have got worse in world terms than before). That's to say, if we'd sneaked a 0-1 away win in Astana, we'd be not exactly overjoyed but comfortable enough with 0-2 away. But that's just the result to say nothing of the performance. The performance was hardly a fitting "apology" to make up for the Kazakh game. Totally agree but as @vanderark14 says, no result against San Marino was going to make up for Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, macy37 said: RB does. That's not what I said at all. You really need to learn to read what's written and not what you want to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 18 hours ago, Third Lanark said: You take a lot of stick on here but I agree with every word you say, except maybe that Bates and McKenna are still our best back four option - though they need time to build up an understanding not just with each other but with a new goalkeeper. Thank you! 18 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Can't disagree with any of that, other than I think McGregor is a player and that McKenna is vastly overrated and if we are relying on him as a centre back then we're in trouble. When McTominay came on he showed himself to be vastly above then other midfielders, his touch, passing, speed of thought was above everyone else on our team. Meanwhile McGregor was constantly spraying balls out of touch. The midfield should be built around Scott McTominay, the fact that he was on the bench for the two matches shows that McLeish really has lost his marbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 18 hours ago, Chripper said: Thank you! When McTominay came on he showed himself to be vastly above then other midfielders, his touch, passing, speed of thought was above everyone else on our team. Meanwhile McGregor was constantly spraying balls out of touch. The midfield should be built around Scott McTominay, the fact that he was on the bench for the two matches shows that McLeish really has lost his marbles. Darren Fletcher Mark 2? Another Scottish midfielder that we don't have the team to get the best out of, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Darren Fletcher Mark 2? Another Scottish midfielder that we don't have the team to get the best out of, maybe? Most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 23 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Totally agree but as @vanderark14 says, no result against San Marino was going to make up for Thursday. Yes I said that earlier on another thread, it's agreed nothing they could do to San Marino would make up for it. The annoying thing being McLeish actually thought it was worth saying or even believing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 3/25/2019 at 10:22 AM, Squirrelhumper said: As for AFC, I couldn't care less, Okay no problem - You say you don't, I say you do - We're allowed to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Don't think there was a goals tally that would have been sufficient apology. But if we'd put in a cohesive performance and looked like an organised, hard working side then that would have counted for something. We didn't tho. We looked slow and lacking imagination. Struggled to break down the worst side in the world and only scored a 2nd because we were so bad they thought they could get something from the game and committed forwards. It was embarrassing.. which just added to the embarrassment of the previous result. McLeish has no plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 We won by the same score we always seem to win by there and we scored really early. What is the problem with this result?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 21 hours ago, bonny78 said: What is the problem with this result?? If you didn't watch the game, I can understand why you'd say that. I think my post immediately before yours sets it out. The performance was really poor. We stuttered. We lacked a plan. The line up made no sense. We only won 2-0 rather than 1-0 due to San Marino coming out of their shell because we were so bad that they thought they could get something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, andyD said: If you didn't watch the game, I can understand why you'd say that. I think my post immediately before yours sets it out. The performance was really poor. We stuttered. We lacked a plan. The line up made no sense. We only won 2-0 rather than 1-0 due to San Marino coming out of their shell because we were so bad that they thought they could get something. Was still 2-0 like other times we’ve been there. Don’t think we scored so early last time either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, bonny78 said: Was still 2-0 like other times we’ve been there. Don’t think we scored so early last time either Well, if you want to focus 100% on the score line and ignore everything else, then enjoy your happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I was bored and depressed by the SM game, but tbh, if we had won in Kazakhstan - even a scrappy 1-0 - I'd have been content with both games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, andyD said: Well, if you want to focus 100% on the score line and ignore everything else, then enjoy your happy days. Sometimes it’s hard to break down a stuffy team. The san Marino game is not the issue by a long shot. It’s the 1st game and the manner which we lose that is the big problem. Granted the same crappy team struggled in San Marino but they managed to get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 3/26/2019 at 2:58 AM, Chripper said: Thank you! When McTominay came on he showed himself to be vastly above then other midfielders, his touch, passing, speed of thought was above everyone else on our team. Meanwhile McGregor was constantly spraying balls out of touch. The midfield should be built around Scott McTominay, the fact that he was on the bench for the two matches shows that McLeish really has lost his marbles. Utter pish - he was every bit as useless on the day as the rest of the team - take the rose tinted glasses off and get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, bonny78 said: Sometimes it’s hard to break down a stuffy team. The san Marino game is not the issue by a long shot. It’s the 1st game and the manner which we lose that is the big problem. Granted the same crappy team struggled in San Marino but they managed to get the job done. You must be fucking deluded. The whole game was shyte beyond belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, irnbruman said: Utter pish - he was every bit as useless on the day as the rest of the team - take the rose tinted glasses off and get real. Really? Pretty much his first pass he almost set up a goal. Look back at it. Rose tinted glasses? I have no agenda. I will say this, though, when Forrest, Christie, McGregor came up against PSG they were found out to be average. McTominay? He nullified Verratti for 90 minutes. And I'd say that PSG had as much of the ball against Manchester United as they did against Celtic, so you can't say that "Manchester United are a better team than Celtic", as PSG had about 75% possession against United. So, "useless"? Hardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chripper said: Really? Pretty much his first pass he almost set up a goal. Look back at it. Rose tinted glasses? I have no agenda. I will say this, though, when Forrest, Christie, McGregor came up against PSG they were found out to be average. McTominay? He nullified Verratti for 90 minutes. And I'd say that PSG had as much of the ball against Manchester United as they did against Celtic, so you can't say that "Manchester United are a better team than Celtic", as PSG had about 75% possession against United. So, "useless"? Hardly. You just talk constant shyte on here - I said all the team were pish on the day - the team they were playing were fucking dross. Stick to the subject and stop havering you clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, irnbruman said: You just talk constant shyte on here - I said all the team were pish on the day - the team they were playing were fucking dross. Stick to the subject and stop havering you clown. I talk "shyte"? Err... OK. Does that word live only in your dictionary? Thank you very much, though, you're very kind. I do try. It's nice that you've noticed me, can't say that I've noticed you. I'm not deflecting one little bit, Mr Sunshine. I'm merely stating the fact that McTominay was pretty much the only player in the team that had any semblance of touch and ambition, and he did. Pretty much with his first touch he played a ball behind their left back, unleashing one of our players to whip in a cross. And yes, generally he's head and shoulders above the rest of our central midfielders. This isn't my opinion, this is fact, as he's with Man United and the others are with Celtic, Aberdeen, Villa, etc. If you disagree then fair enough, 'tis a game of opinions. If you want to get aggressive about then it then also fair enough. 🌹 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, irnbruman said: You must be fucking deluded. The whole game was shyte beyond belief. it's scotland. of course it was shyte. What did you expect?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, irnbruman said: Utter pish - he was every bit as useless on the day as the rest of the team - take the rose tinted glasses off and get real. McTominay drove us forward and made better passes in the half hour he had than McGregor did in the first hour of the game. Got to side with Chripper here. Horrific a thought as that may be. Also, calm yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 hours ago, irnbruman said: You just talk constant shyte on here - I said all the team were pish on the day - the team they were playing were fucking dross. Stick to the subject and stop havering you clown. You're right chripper does post a lot of shyte but one thing I completely agree with is his thoughts on mctominey. Mctominey, Robertson and Fraser should be the first names on our team sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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