Grim Jim Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Sailors navigated the oceans with a clock and a sextant for centuries. Do you post this tosh just because you cannot survive now without a cell phone and Google maps? Quote
Toepoke Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 Posted this before but not everybody may have seen it... In a nutshell it was easier to go to the moon in the 1960s than it would have been to fake it. Quote
Toepoke Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, thplinth said: If I assigned you an either or choice as your homework which one would you opt for? I think I'd opt for neither and take 6 of the belt. Quote
Toepoke Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, thplinth said: If they had faked it they would have sent landers to the moon to capture what it looks like on film and get the look right on the fake film. And indeed there was a lot of shit sent there before Apollo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_on_the_Moon Yep, Apollo 12 landed fairly close to Surveyor 3 and the astronauts brought parts of it back... https://www.space.com/11536-moon-microbe-mystery-solved-apollo-12.html 1 hour ago, thplinth said: How hard once you have the high contrast no stars pictures / look to replicate that artificially? If you speed up the film of the astronauts on the moon to 2X 'normal' speed they appear to move as if on earth and they do not jump any higher than they could on on earth... no really tall jumps... just slow normal jumps. Maybe they did land men on the moon and they all died there so they made some re-creation film. Technically they are not lying but.... The dust particle movement remains a key indicator that there was no filming on earth... https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/proof-we-landed-moon-dust#page-2 Quote
kumnio Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Grim Jim said: Google maps? Scotty once posted something along the lines of 'Google maps are dangerous, it will allow people to know when youre in or out', like it was a live action feed. Quote
Toepoke Posted January 15, 2019 Author Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, thplinth said: Brought it back or maybe it never left in the first place? They should have been jumping much higher. I think the official explanation is the suits were too restrictive... and that is possible. But it is not the only possible explanation. Certainly the suits weighed about the equivalent of 15kg on earth, that would've been like lugging a full suitcase about with you. Quote
Toepoke Posted January 15, 2019 Author Posted January 15, 2019 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/we-ll-never-get-tired-of-this-video-of-astronauts-falling-over-on-the-moon/amp Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 20 hours ago, Chripper said: McJesus died for our burgers. "Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap." Galatians 6:7 12 hours ago, Chripper said: Once again, you're citing words from people who may have been murderers and rapists. They were neither. They were imperfect like everyone else, though. You have freewill, however, you will have no choice as to the consequence of entering eternity without the forgiveness of sin. I beg of you not to take this lightly. 6 hours ago, Grim Jim said: Sailors navigated the oceans with a clock and a sextant for centuries. A sextant will tell you that the sun is approx. 3,000 miles away. 7 hours ago, Grim Jim said: Do you post this tosh just because you cannot survive now without a cell phone and Google maps? No, I use neither. Quote
Chripper Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Scotty CTA said: "Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap." Galatians 6:7 I will reap? Oh goody! When? 1 minute ago, Scotty CTA said: They were neither. They were imperfect like everyone else, though. OK, at last we're getting somewhere. How do you know they were rapists or murderers? Do they have biographies? 2 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: I beg of you not to take this lightly. Oh, I'm taking it lightly alright, and I will continue to do so. Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 6 hours ago, thplinth said: Surely the ice wall is longer circumference than 47,000 km. The Great Wall of China is 21,000 km and it is just one country within the flat earth. The earth,s globe circumference is about 40,000 km but of course you see only one side of the globe but in the flat earth the ice wall encompasses both ‘sides, all countries. I reckon it must be closer to 80,000 km in circumference. Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chripper said: I will reap? Oh goody! When? How, where, and whenever God decides (but definitely at death unless you repent). Post your details so that we can monitor your ...erm... progress. (My name is Scott Paterson, 57, Toronto.) 23 minutes ago, Chripper said: OK, at last we're getting somewhere. How do you know they were rapists or murderers? Read it again. 23 minutes ago, Chripper said: Do they have biographies? We have some information. For example, Matthew was a tax collector... https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-tax-collectors.html Before he met Jesus, Matthew was greedy. He thought money was the most important thing in life and violated God's laws to enrich himself at the expense of his countrymen. 36 minutes ago, Chripper said: Oh, I'm taking it lightly alright, and I will continue to do so. As stated... You have freewill. (Just know that God loves you and that you can be forgiven for anything.) Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: They didnt have mobile phones in 1944 either but managed to develop a ballistic missile that could hit a determined target with fairly good precision for it's time (They aimed one at the Ludendorff Bridge at Remagen from 40 miles away and it missed it by about 400 metres) The moon is supposedly 6,000 times that distance, though. 7 hours ago, thplinth said: Think how easy it would be prove the existence of god just be proving the existence of the dome. All it would take is some determined truther to scale the ice wall and journey to the edge with a team of huskies and some decent polar equipment. And no one would catch on that a big mouth Christian Truther was asking around for transport to Antarctica, some decent polar equipment, and a team of huskies? 7 hours ago, thplinth said: Post results in YouTube and the whole world realizes the con job realizes their mistake and believes in God. But what suddenly no one has the money or can be bothered to do this? Eh? It's not like I could do it on my lunch hour. I genuinely couldn't afford it, and I'd be an inexperienced fish out of water who would perish in that environment. 7 hours ago, thplinth said: Naw given the choice to either go or fake it even in the late sixties faking it has to be easier. Obviously. 3 hours ago, thplinth said: Brought it back or maybe it never left in the first place? Again... Why doesn't the most simple explanation register? 2 hours ago, kumnio said: Scotty once posted something along the lines of 'Google maps are dangerous, it will allow people to know when youre in or out', like it was a live action feed. I don't recall that. (i don't suppose you'd have a link.) Quote
Chripper Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: How, where, and whenever God decides (but definitely at death unless you repent). Post your details so that we can monitor your ...erm... progress. Mmm... so, you can be a child molester, rapist, serial killer and be a bad tipper, but as long as you repent then you'll be forgiven? No thank you. 17 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: As stated... You have freewill. (Just know that God loves you and that you can be forgiven for anything.) Not only do I have freewill, I also have a brain that can decide what's logical and what's not. (The only person who matters is yourself, if you love you then that's enough. And trust me, I love myself!) Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chripper said: Mmm... so, you can be a child molester, rapist, serial killer and be a bad tipper, but as long as you repent then you'll be forgiven? Correct. We are all sinners who need a Saviour. Only perfect people go to heaven, and since none of us are perfect, heaven can only be attained through forgiveness of sins. "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?" Jeremiah 17:9 9 minutes ago, Chripper said: No thank you. It's a free gift. This life will be over before you know it. (What control do you think you have over what happens to you after you die?) 10 minutes ago, Chripper said: Not only do I have freewill, I also have a brain that can decide what's logical and what's not. Isaiah 55:8-9 English Standard Version (ESV) 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. 12 minutes ago, Chripper said: (The only person who matters is yourself, if you love you then that's enough. And trust me, I love myself!) You are your own god? (That's not going to end well.) Quote
Chripper Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: We are all sinners who need a Saviour. No I really don't. 35 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: This life will be over before you know it. Is that a threat? 35 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: You are your own god? (That's not going to end well.) Yes I am. Mate, seriously, you're barking up the wrong tree with me. I'm agnostic and I will never subscribe to your beliefs. Ever. You believe in something that some strangers wrote in a book thousands of years ago and when life was simpler and people were more gullible and easily suggestible. Me? I believe what I see. I believe that we're all living this random life living on this random planet, there is no grand plan, there is nothing but today. You keep asking people to think outside the box and question what is being told, yeah, well, take your own advice. Also, the Bible was written as a way of controlling people, manipulating them and keeping them in check. Along the way it's been hijacked by business people and greedy individuals who want to exploit the beliefs of people by lining their pockets. How much billion pounds do all organized religions make per annum? Or does it bleed into the trillions? That's money that could feed the hungry, clothe and house the homeless and end poverty. But no, it just means that Pastors and whatnot can keep their other halves in new BMWs and fur coats and mansions. Edited January 15, 2019 by Chripper Quote
Chripper Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) An example of people being duped: Televangelist Jesse Duplantis said God promised him a Falcon 7X This, my dear Scotty, is the people on your side of the fence. My personal favourite quote is this one: “I've owned three different jets in my life and used them and used them and just burning them up for the Lord,” Yeah, I think I'm happy living each day as it comes and enjoying each and every one of them. I have no need to con anyone. Edited January 15, 2019 by Chripper Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Chripper said: No I really don't. You just don't want to know you do. 1 hour ago, Chripper said: Is that a threat? Just saying that our time here on earth will be a snap of the fingers compared to eternity in heaven. 1 hour ago, Chripper said: Yes I am. Mate, seriously, you're barking up the wrong tree with me. I'm just responding to you following me around. 1 hour ago, Chripper said: I'm agnostic... Then why say... 1 hour ago, Chripper said: ...and I will never subscribe to your beliefs. Ever. Unless you don't know what an agnostic is. 1 hour ago, Chripper said: You believe in something that some strangers wrote in a book God authored thousands of years ago... 1 hour ago, Chripper said: ...and when life was simpler and people were more gullible and easily suggestible. I don't really think that that's changed. 1 hour ago, Chripper said: Me? I believe what I see. You believe in the flat motionless earth? 1 hour ago, Chripper said: I believe that we're all living this random life living on this random planet, there is no grand plan, there is nothing but today. So how did the literally billions of pieces of information for the language of DNA come to be 'randomly'? Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Chripper said: You keep asking people to think outside the box and question what is being told, yeah, well, take your own advice. I am. It's you that's going along with herd. Not me. 1 hour ago, Chripper said: Also, the Bible was written as a way of controlling people, manipulating them and keeping them in check. Well, it's not working. (Turn on the News.) 1 hour ago, Chripper said: Along the way it's been hijacked... So it was alright 'in the beginning'? 1 hour ago, Chripper said: That's money that could feed the hungry, clothe and house the homeless and end poverty. We contribute to those things through my church. 1 hour ago, Chripper said: An example of people being duped: Televangelist Jesse Duplantis said God promised him a Falcon 7X This, my dear Scotty, is the people on your side of the fence. Hardly. The Bible warns us of the wolves. "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matthew 7:15 Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 5:55 PM, Toepoke said: Anyhoo, video released of the Yutu rover patrolling the lunar surface... And you honestly believe that's for real? Quote
Scotty CTA Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 They no doubt used different sets... https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/ Quote
Chripper Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: Just saying that our time here on earth will be a snap of the fingers compared to eternity in heaven. Hypothesis. 9 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: So it was alright 'in the beginning'? Well, it was a way of making people behave themselves.... in a roundabout kind of a way. 10 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: We contribute to those things through my church. Yes, I'm talking about all of the churches. We're talking billions/trillions. 11 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: Hardly. The Bible warns us of the wolves. "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matthew 7:15 And yet this guy is getting away with it. You can make up any excuses you want because at the end of the day you'll just condone people like that by spouting this, that or the other. Oh, that's right, people will that will "pay for it when they go to heaven", right? 1) Why do people like that go to heaven and 2) Heaven is theoretical.. It's the people in the literal living place that are suffering. Quote
exile Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Can you try to answer my question on the other (lunar eclipse) thread? if you are in a ship just offshore to the north of the most northerly part of Antarctica, sailing on a course due east, where will you end up? Quote
beardy Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: They no doubt used different sets... https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/ That's a spoof website. Unless you think the following story is true MAN WHO HAD WOMAN’S BRAIN TRANSPLANTED HAS FIVE CAR CRASHES IN TWO WEEKS Edited January 15, 2019 by beardy Quote
beardy Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 World News Daily Report assumes all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any person, living, dead or undead, is purely a miracle. Quote
Eisegerwind Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 18 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Just asking if it would have been possible for an unmanned rocket to take off and land in the ocean; for everyone working (in compartmentalisation) to be viewing a simulation; for the moon scenes to be filmed on earth; and for the capsule to be dropped out of a plane. (I haven't read everything yet.) It's not really an issue. Folk don't have the money to launch their own rockets or travel to Antarctica. The thin air and the freezing cold put up their own defences. After that, there's radar and the coast guards of the nations involved in the treaty. Why is the air thin at the ice wall? Quote
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