wubbs Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: I don't think that is how it is going to work, but I haven't seen that confirmed yet. I think that if they need teams to fill up the League B play off spots, they will take teams from lower down League C AFTER the League C play off spots have been filled. IMO That would be the logical way to do it. Yes, this is how they're doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 45 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Albania, Serbia and Israel I've always wanted to visit these places We can't get both Albania and Serbia. They are both in Pot 2. You could visit them both on the same trip though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, wubbs said: Yes, this is how they're doing it. How do you know that though? I can't find it anywhere on the UEFA website. Got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wubbs Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Orraloon said: How do you know that though? I can't find it anywhere on the UEFA website. Got a link? http://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/video/videoid=2502798.html#/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, wubbs said: http://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/video/videoid=2502798.html#/ Cheers.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, wubbs said: http://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/video/videoid=2502798.html#/ Looks pretty good after watching that video. One venue for play-off semi-finals and final. Nations League position also determines pots for Euro Qualifiers. These games will be important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 49 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: Friendlies do count but you don't get many points for them. I don't think they were planning on dropping down when they played at Hampden but backing them not to beat Malta last week was buying money. Maybe it's not the best source but according to the STV breakdown of how the NL will work, you don't get points for friendly matches within the UEFA rankings. This would be backed up by the fact Russia haven't accrued any points within this qualifying cycle. Basis of Russia having gained no points from the following site; http://www.footballseeding.com/national-ranking-uefa/ranking-2017/ Not that it matters anyway, If they were trying to drop a division I'd say they would have had to lose every game for the whole campaign and some of the one before, so it's not done them much good deciding mid campaign  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, bookerman said: Anyone know if the National League is going to replace future seedings for Euro and world cup qualifying ? If so we better take this serousely or before you know it we could be falling down the pots real fast. Final positions in the Nations League will determine the seeding pots for the qualifying groups for Euro 2020. They will not affect the next World Cup qualifiers though as the pots for these will be decided based on world rankings as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I wonder if FIFA will consider Nations League matches as friendlies  in terms of how many ranking points a win/draw will accrue or will a win get you the same points as winning a qualifier or finals match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, drew said: That was my understanding of it. At least it will make teams take this new tournament seriously knowing you might need it as a backup plan to qualify for the Euros. I don't think it is a horrible idea but UEFA have done an awful job explaining and selling it. Not to sure about playing a semi and final playoff match within a couple of days in March. I'm guessing both the semis and final will be played in the same neutral city to make it easier for fans to attend (this is UEFA so actually there will be no chance)  32 minutes ago, Jonathan said: Looks pretty good after watching that video. One venue for play-off semi-finals and final. Nations League position also determines pots for Euro Qualifiers. These games will be important. The venue situation of the playoffs was my only concern. Having that confirmed as being one venue makes things simple and easy. I watched the video without volume but looks like UEFA have explained it reasonably well. Possibly just journalists making no effort to report the format properly. Looking forward to this if the game days work out OK. Edited October 11, 2017 by drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: I wonder if FIFA will consider Nations League matches as friendlies  in terms of how many ranking points a win/draw will accrue or will a win get you the same points as winning a qualifier or finals match? That's a good question. Maybe half way between a friendly and a Qualifier???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, drew said:  The venue situation of the playoffs was my only concern. Having that confirmed as being one venue makes things simple and easy. I watched the video without volume but looks like UEFA have explained it reasonably well. Possibly just journalists making no effort to report the format properly. Looking forward to this if the game days work out OK.  From what I understood in the video (needs sounds) - the higher rank team gets home advantage in the play-off semi-final. The final is at a venue to be decided by UEFA - i.e. it is not one venue.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, drew said:  The venue situation of the playoffs was my only concern. Having that confirmed as being one venue makes things simple and easy.  Don't think that is what the video says. In the Semi, the highest ranked team gets home advantage. Then the final is decided by drawing lots. I read somewhere else that the final would be a neutral venue, but that seems to have changed.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 6 hours ago, BMan said: Hopefully SFA use their common sense here and price these games reasonably and also move these games across the country. Be mad to have all these matches at Hampden as no way we will sell out with these opponents. We'd sell over 20k for each game, so would be daft not having them at Hampden. Not sure many folk would renew their SSC membership if you can't guarantee them a ticket for all "competitive" games either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scotland Ever More said: We'd sell over 20k for each game, so would be daft not having them at Hampden. Not sure many folk would renew their SSC membership if you can't guarantee them a ticket for all "competitive" games either. Agree. it has to be Hampden. We don't have a game for the next 11 months. Then it will be 3 home games (maybe only 2) in the Nations League between Sept and Nov. We will get decent crowds for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Lion Rampant said: Maybe it's not the best source but according to the STV breakdown of how the NL will work, you don't get points for friendly matches within the UEFA rankings. This would be backed up by the fact Russia haven't accrued any points within this qualifying cycle. Basis of Russia having gained no points from the following site; http://www.footballseeding.com/national-ranking-uefa/ranking-2017/ Not that it matters anyway, If they were trying to drop a division I'd say they would have had to lose every game for the whole campaign and some of the one before, so it's not done them much good deciding mid campaign  They only finished one place too high. I think the problem was no team really wanted to move up a group. So every team that was already out of WC18 will have been aware of the impact of their results on their NC ranking. It won't have mattered to most as they wouldn't move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Is there a qualifying place for league A overall winners? You could easily have 9-12 teams from that league qualify through normal groups. Where do you get the teams from to make up playoffs? Also league A playoffs are a two legged semi final and final for an overall league winner. So whether they are qualified or not they should progress to that. Maybe there isn't a qualifying place for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: Is there a qualifying place for league A overall winners? You could easily have 9-12 teams from that league qualify through normal groups. Where do you get the teams from to make up playoffs? Also league A playoffs are a two legged semi final and final for an overall league winner. So whether they are qualified or not they should progress to that. Maybe there isn't a qualifying place for them? League A has a semi final and final in June 2019 to find the overall winners, they also still have a play off spot in March 2020. The semi final play off spot from League A would drop down to the next best in League B and so on, there could easily be 15 teams from the A&B qualyfing. So you could have a scenario where we are in Group 1 in League C, finish 2nd to Serbia but they qualify automatically, we would then get their semi-final spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 You wouldn't want to be bumped up to League A playoffs over being in League B playoffs against weaker teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: You wouldn't want to be bumped up to League A playoffs over being in League B playoffs against weaker teams! You could only be bumped up if you didn't qualify for the League B play-offs. The video does explain it well. Edited October 11, 2017 by PASTA Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: You could only be bumped up if you didn't qualify for the League B play-offs. The video does explain it well. Say there is a space available in League A and League B playoffs and you are the best 2nd place team not qualified. Do you go into League A playoffs over League B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 You would go into B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: Say there is a space available in League A and League B playoffs and you are the best 2nd place team not qualified. Do you go into League A playoffs over League B? Watch the video on this page -Â http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/newsid=2502936.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I see the draw for this is 11am on the Wednesday afternoon. Will the fixtures be announced that day too? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Scotland Ever More said: I see the draw for this is 11am on the Wednesday afternoon. Will the fixtures be announced that day too? Â I thought it was the 24th ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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