Paulo2576 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Why should we drop Tierney? To play Martin? Tierney should play every time he is fit, can score too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manno Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Paulo2576 said: Why should we drop Tierney? To play Martin? Tierney should play every time he is fit, can score too. We shouldn't. But the point was made that Strachan might look to change the team/rest players that have played a lot already this season (the Celtic players will have played about 10 games already, EPL players less than 5). If Tierney isn't playing I'd have R.Martin or even Whittaker in his place over Anya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Well that's ok then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 A lot is being made about fatigue for our players but what about Malta? They don't possess the same level of fitness/ recovery rate and they had a tough game against England in apparently hot conditions. Therefore negates fitness issues for our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Manno said: We shouldn't. But the point was made that Strachan might look to change the team/rest players that have played a lot already this season (the Celtic players will have played about 10 games already, EPL players less than 5). If Tierney isn't playing I'd have R.Martin or even Whittaker in his place over Anya. i'm fairly sure he was referring to players who haven't played much and will be knackered after Friday, probably Phillips and MacArthur. The ones who are properly fit will have no problem in recovering. Edited September 4, 2017 by er yir macaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Start the strongest possible team. They will fancy an upset after holding England for so long and seeing France v Luxembourg last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 The only change I would be tempted to make would be to bring in Ritchie for Forrest as Ritchie was instrumental last time we played Malta. Apart from that as you were. And if we get 2 goals up take Brown off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: i'm fairly sure he was referring to players who haven't played much and will be knackered after Friday, probably Phillips and MacArthur. The ones who are properly fit will have no problem in recovering. I don't think so. I think it was a pretty clear nod to Brendan Rodgers, saying "i'll rest who i can". after all, just a week ago rodgers was saying this:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41061904 so in the interests of maintaining a good relationship with the club that's played a hugely significant part in scotlands recent improvement, i think we'll see the minimum of celtic players involved tonight. The likes of Tierney, Gordon and Brown are already approaching 1000 minutes this season. Griffiths and Armstrong are at half that, so i think they have a decent chance of still being involved. Compare that to players like McArthur and Ritchie who've got 200-300 minutes so far, despite playing in every game. I don't think we'll be starting any of the Celtic starting players except maybe Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee-toon-red Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, andyD said: The likes of Tierney, Gordon and Brown are already approaching 1000 minutes this season. Griffiths and Armstrong are at half that, so i think they have a decent chance of still being involved. Compare that to players like McArthur and Ritchie who've got 200-300 minutes so far, despite playing in every game. I don't think we'll be starting any of the Celtic starting players except maybe Gordon. We've got a game we absolutely have to win tonight and you think he'll leave out Tierney and Gordon? Brown I could just about understand but it would be a mental decision not to play the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 37 minutes ago, andyD said: The likes of Tierney, Gordon and Brown are already approaching 1000 minutes this season. Griffiths and Armstrong are at half that, so i think they have a decent chance of still being involved. Compare that to players like McArthur and Ritchie who've got 200-300 minutes so far, despite playing in every game. I don't think we'll be starting any of the Celtic starting players except maybe Gordon. I really don't see this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Same team as Lithuania. be amazed if it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, wee-toon-red said: We've got a game we absolutely have to win tonight and you think he'll leave out Tierney and Gordon? Brown I could just about understand but it would be a mental decision not to play the other two. No, i think Gordon will play. I don't think Tierney will, as much for tactical reasons as any. At right back he's not a particularly good attacking outlet. We'll be on the front foot, and Tierney can't offer overlapping runs and crosses down the right. I think the overlaps of the fullbacks will be important to us tonight, so we'll probably go with Anya who can run away from players and break into the box looking to cut back. I don't think Brown will play as we don't need his defensive work here, and he should be protected for the final 2 games where he would be an absolutely massive miss if suspended. I don't think we'll play Forrest, as I don't think he had that good a game against Lithuania and his contribution is reasonably easily replicated or surpassed by Fraser. Alternatively Ritchie offers long range shooting which could be key to scoring against a packed defense. I think Armstrong will play as he's a vital link now between midfield and attack. His role can be performed by Cairney or Bannan, but both are out injured, and with him being one of the less used Celtic players I don't think there's a problem. Griffiths will play. Again, lower on the minute count this season, but also we want him to get a goal or two so he's feeling on top of the world for the next two games. So to me there will be 3 Celtic players in the starting 11 tonight. Of the 3 to be rested (Brown, Tierney, Forrest), i think Browns the only one what would be genuinely missed, McArthur is probably good enough for this game.. or Fletcher. Tho i still don't trust either of them. McDonald from Fulham should be there imo, tho i'll admit i've not seen enough of Aberdeen to make a call on Shinnie.. I've seen a fair bit of Jack and i dont think he was good enough, so unless Shinnie is massively improved this season i think he's a way to go yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I might be wrong, but I'll honestly be surprised if Forrest or Tierney start the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Forrest out, Ritchie or Fraser in. Preferably Fraser but I'll accept Ritchie No need to change anything unless we've unearthed a real centre half in the space of three days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, andyD said: I don't think so. I think it was a pretty clear nod to Brendan Rodgers, saying "i'll rest who i can". after all, just a week ago rodgers was saying this:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41061904 so in the interests of maintaining a good relationship with the club that's played a hugely significant part in scotlands recent improvement, i think we'll see the minimum of celtic players involved tonight. The likes of Tierney, Gordon and Brown are already approaching 1000 minutes this season. Griffiths and Armstrong are at half that, so i think they have a decent chance of still being involved. Compare that to players like McArthur and Ritchie who've got 200-300 minutes so far, despite playing in every game. I don't think we'll be starting any of the Celtic starting players except maybe Gordon. No chance at all the Celtic players will be rested, it's not a friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 If Scott Brown plays it will be a terrible decision from WGS. We need him against slovakia. Brown should have picked up a booked along with griffiths on friday. Giving strachan no chance to mess things up. We beat malta 5-1 without these 2 players. I think we can win today without them Game would be a good one for someone like ryan christie or macgregor to play but thats a whole different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norsefox Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, jamboman said: If Scott Brown plays it will be a terrible decision from WGS. We need him against slovakia. Brown should have picked up a booked along with griffiths on friday. Giving strachan no chance to mess things up. We beat malta 5-1 without these 2 players. I think we can win today without them Game would be a good one for someone like ryan christie or macgregor to play but thats a whole different story Of course we need Brown against Slovakia, but we also need to win tonight. No point resting everyone if it ends up 0-0 and the Slovakia game becomes pointless anyway. I don't envy Strachan tonight as it could easily go wrong no matter what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manno Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 4 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: i'm fairly sure he was referring to players who haven't played much and will be knackered after Friday, probably Phillips and MacArthur. The ones who are properly fit will have no problem in recovering. That was my interpretation too, the whole Martin starting was my own personal fear of Anya playing in defence again. Can't see many, if any, changes tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 cannot see any reason (allegedly tired, club managers, whatever else) to not start the same team this is a massive game for us and that team just turned out our most commanding performance in a decade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'd expect Brown to start. However, if the game goes as we hope and we're doing as well after 60 minutes as we were against Lithuania, I'd expect him to be subbed (to a rousing reception). Think positive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Same team announced. That doesn't happen often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norsefox Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 minute ago, macy37 said: Same team announced. That doesn't happen often! Unexpected but clearly shows a desire to take it seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, macy37 said: Same team announced. That doesn't happen often! Wow - that's an oddity and a half!! Do we have a statto who can tell us when/if that has happened before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Wow - that's an oddity and a half!! Do we have a statto who can tell us when/if that has happened before? Malta to Lithuania game, I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Challenge the players to score before England did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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