phart Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: From Private Eye but nobody really cares Weird I was calling out Arron Banks on twitter yesterday as the journalist who exposed him won the Orwell Price. Carole Cadwalladr is her name had to go check the spelling as knew it was pretty esoteric. Weird the ye aren't including Andy Wigmore in there as well. Edited June 27, 2018 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) On 6/27/2018 at 1:21 PM, phart said: Weird I was calling out Arron Banks on twitter yesterday as the journalist who exposed him won the Orwell Price. Carole Cadwalladr is her name had to go check the spelling as knew it was pretty esoteric. Weird the ye aren't including Andy Wigmore in there as well. Some bombshells by Carole today and Andrew Neil is up to his arse in it From Arron Banks The deputy editor of The Spectator is married to Dom Cummings - Vote Leave's chief strategist Edited July 2, 2018 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/world/europe/russia-britain-brexit-arron-banks.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 10:42 AM, Caledonian Craig said: Lesser scale on side of racist calls. Brexiteers love labelling Scots who want independence from Westminster as anti-English. What a dim view. And silly to boot given that the UK leaving the EU is severing ties with far more nationalities so by their mentality equates to being anti-German, French, Spanish, Italian, Belgian etc etc etc. And sorry but Scotland has its own legal and education system compared to rest of the UK. Also it differs socially and culturally as well as politically from rest of UK. We share different views on key issues and politically whereas Toryism is the norm elsewhere it is over half a century since the Tories were the most popular party in Scotland. The social and cultural ďifferences are very thin whenever social attitude surveys are taken. Politically there is liitle core difference. There is obviously large support for a nationalist party but themes like low tax are common. Indeed the SNP rule as small c conservatives with no real wealth distribution and no radicalism. They tried to win the 2014 referendum by emphasising little would really change. The largest group of Scottish Leave voters were SNP suporters with 1/3 voting Leave. That's a fairly large size. Surely you can't say Scotland has more in common with Hungary, Poland, Italy ruling governments? Germany has a far right party as its main opposition. Former sensible bastions of Denmark and Sweden have growing nativist right wing parties. Europe has a lot of troubling political movements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Alan said: The social and cultural ďifferences are very thin whenever social attitude surveys are taken. Politically there is liitle core difference. There is obviously large support for a nationalist party but themes like low tax are common. Indeed the SNP rule as small c conservatives with no real wealth distribution and no radicalism. They tried to win the 2014 referendum by emphasising little would really change. The largest group of Scottish Leave voters were SNP suporters with 1/3 voting Leave. That's a fairly large size. Surely you can't say Scotland has more in common with Hungary, Poland, Italy ruling governments? Germany has a far right party as its main opposition. Former sensible bastions of Denmark and Sweden have growing nativist right wing parties. Europe has a lot of troubling political movements. While I wouldn't say that social and cultural differences vary widely between Scotland and England, to say that they are "very thin" is stretching it somewhat. If you look at the data then while both the UK and Scottish social attitudes surveys both show broadly centrist positions - in Scotland its more of a centre-left position. The largest group of Scottish Leave voters being SNP supporters is down to one thing and one thing only. The SNP has the biggest support of any party in Scotland. The proportion on SNP voters who voted Leave was broadly similiar to Labour. The largest number of Leave voters by far though were from your party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 10:42 AM, Caledonian Craig said: And sorry but Scotland has its own legal and education system compared to rest of the UK. Also it differs socially and culturally as well as politically from rest of UK. We share different views on key issues and politically whereas Toryism is the norm elsewhere it is over half a century since the Tories were the most popular party in Scotland. I'm well aware of Scotland's separate legal and education systems, thank you. I was simply pointing out that there's significant shared culture when compared to the EU. 12 minutes ago, aaid said: While I wouldn't say that social and cultural differences vary widely between Scotland and England, to say that they are "very thin" is stretching it somewhat. If you look at the data then while both the UK and Scottish social attitudes surveys both show broadly centrist positions - in Scotland its more of a centre-left position. The largest group of Scottish Leave voters being SNP supporters is down to one thing and one thing only. The SNP has the biggest support of any party in Scotland. The proportion on SNP voters who voted Leave was broadly similiar to Labour. The largest number of Leave voters by far though were from your party. FWIW, the only worthwhile measure of cultural affinity is how easy it is for a member of one culture to use a supermarket in another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 It would seem everywhere outwith the UK is reporting the Dark Money, Arron Banks, DUP, Tory, Vote Leave, Brexit bombshell BBC not one bit interested Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: It would seem everywhere outwith the UK is reporting the Dark Money, Arron Banks, DUP, Tory, Vote Leave, Brexit bombshell BBC not one bit interested Interesting Mon Ally...the whole shite-bag stinks yet again. (add in the latest Salsbury "incident") 2/3 years ago I would have dismissed as "conspiracy theory" guff. Now when you see so much very serious stuff totally ignored, despite social media being all over it, it stinks. They now so blatantly lie and cheat because they know they will get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) If anyone fancies resigning today/tonight then they will be immediately stripped of their Ministerial car and will need to phone a Fast Black Edited July 6, 2018 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: If anyone fancies resigning today/tonight then they will be immediately stripped of their Ministerial car and will need to phone a Fast Black Like Usain Bolt ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, mariokempes56 said: Like Usain Bolt ? You'd get a job with the Tories/UKIP with patter like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) The chequers "brexit plan" has been divulged They have ignored everything that the EU have said they wouldnt accept Popcorn time And it will be interesting to see how the market reacts on Monday with the bombshell that is the financial passport system is no more Edited July 6, 2018 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 The EU are never going to accept this cherry-picked plan - just like they rubbered her 'detailed' speech about 6 months ago so. We're heading for two things : full customs union/single market alignment, EFTA in name ; or no deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Life comes at you fast Peston reports letters calling for vote of confidence in Theresa May's leadership being sent into the chair of the 1922 committee ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Life comes at you fast Peston reports letters calling for vote of confidence in Theresa May's leadership being sent into the chair of the 1922 committee ....... Vote of confidence or vote of no confidence?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 May is only a puppet anyway so hopefully people remember that when she’s replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: Vote of confidence or vote of no confidence?? Confidence Vote of No Confidence although basically the same is worded differently Confidence vote - Statement is that the majority support the leader No Confidence vote - statement is that the leader is no longer fit to hold the position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Labour will probably abstain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Labour will probably abstain. I don't think Labour get to have a vote in who the leader of the Conservative party is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, aaid said: I don't think Labour get to have a vote in who the leader of the Conservative party is. Seems a bit unfair. But they probably wouldn't use it anyway even if they did get a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: Confidence Thanks - the rest of your post was superfluous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Barney Rubble said: Thanks - the rest of your post was superfluous. I thought it was great as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, mariokempes56 said: I thought it was great as well. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 David Davis has finally resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, aaid said: David Davis has finally resigned. What a farce the UK is Knew it was popcorn time and it's not even Monday yet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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