euan2020 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: I don't get it? Is that a line from his "show us the deeds" speech. seriously ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown's_Body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Surely this is a wind up? http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion/sport/mark-warburton-rangers-reign-final-9806467 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Surely this is a wind up? http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion/sport/mark-warburton-rangers-reign-final-9806467 David Weir a Hall of famer? I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 21 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: If Bomber Brown get's it i'd even start to feel sorry for Rangers fans....maybe. What I have heard thus far (rumours) is that Mcinnes a def no, although interested, compensation too much and that was put to bed yesterday. Mcleish with Rae till end of season. Not heard any other names mentioned yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 De Boer is an interesting one, who hasn't ruled himself out, pretty impressive spell at Ajax, although that may be like Ronnie Deila; on paper, having a pretty successful stint as Celtic manager? His lack of knowledge of serie A was cited as the reason it didn't work out for him at inter, and can't see him having any better knowledge of Scottish football. I'd also imagine he'd want money to spend and a big salary which would probably be a stumbling block. Bit of a coup to get a name like that (although you may just be paying for the name...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: What I have heard thus far (rumours) is that Mcinnes a def no, although interested, compensation too much and that was put to bed yesterday. Mcleish with Rae till end of season. Not heard any other names mentioned yet. Mcliesh will take it, he practically begged for it during the draw. Mcinnes wouldn't take it, he's not that stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: De Boer is an interesting one, who hasn't ruled himself out, pretty impressive spell at Ajax, although that may be like Ronnie Deila; on paper, having a pretty successful stint as Celtic manager? His lack of knowledge of serie A was cited as the reason it didn't work out for him at inter, and can't see him having any better knowledge of Scottish football. I'd also imagine he'd want money to spend and a big salary which would probably be a stumbling block. Bit of a coup to get a name like that (although you may just be paying for the name...) Agree with you. Sounds good until you start to look a bit deeper as you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: What I have heard thus far (rumours) is that Mcinnes a def no, although interested, compensation too much and that was put to bed yesterday. Mcleish with Rae till end of season. Not heard any other names mentioned yet. I heard it was McInnes who wasn't interested, this was guys repeating from inside club in Aberdeen - bit of poisoned chalice just now in the short term - managers won't be given patience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, euan2020 said: I heard it was McInnes who wasn't interested, this was guys repeating from inside club in Aberdeen - bit of poisoned chalice just now in the short term - managers won't be given patience Whichever reason is correct, thankful its not him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: De Boer is an interesting one, who hasn't ruled himself out, pretty impressive spell at Ajax, although that may be like Ronnie Deila; on paper, having a pretty successful stint as Celtic manager? His lack of knowledge of serie A was cited as the reason it didn't work out for him at inter, and can't see him having any better knowledge of Scottish football. I'd also imagine he'd want money to spend and a big salary which would probably be a stumbling block. Bit of a coup to get a name like that (although you may just be paying for the name...) Ronald De Boer said his brother would need to know what the spending power is and the club would have to buy in to his style of play. It would be a coup but I can't see rangers attracting him. Edited February 14, 2017 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Ronald De Boer said his brother would need to know what the spending power is and the club would have to buy in to his style of play. It would be a coup but I can't see rangers attracting him. Yeah, Rangers are a different club from the one they left (double meaning absolutely intended ) and are shopping in a very different market these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think the lack of budget would cause problems for De Boer. Without wanting to go over old ground, Rangers have spent £18m of the £30m King thought they would need, in whatever areas of the club, but have very little to show for it on the actual pitch. Apart from Wallace you could easily argue that every player in the starting 11 needs replaced, that's not a small task to take on if you are shopping in the English lower leagues, or equivalent, market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'd be surprised if Rangers make a long-term appointment any time soon. I'd imaging that they'll be looking to appoint McLeish or Murty until the end of the season, with a view to making a long-term appointment at the season's end. Warburton has done a very poor job IMO. His signings in the past 12 months have been little short of abysmal. I'll not labour the point on here, as i've done it enough already but it didn't take a genius to see he waste throwing money away. The frustration from the Rangers board of spending on players from a relatively expensive market, who'd have little sell on value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 52 minutes ago, Dalgety Bay TA said: I think the lack of budget would cause problems for De Boer. Without wanting to go over old ground, Rangers have spent £18m of the £30m King thought they would need, in whatever areas of the club, but have very little to show for it on the actual pitch. Apart from Wallace you could easily argue that every player in the starting 11 needs replaced, that's not a small task to take on if you are shopping in the English lower leagues, or equivalent, market. You seem to be forgetting the fact that Kenny Miller appears to have sold his soul to the Devil and will be playing till he's at least 54 (and still be our best player!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: You seem to be forgetting the fact that Kenny Miller appears to have sold his soul to the Devil and will be playing till he's at least 54 (and still be our best player!!). I hope that is the case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 55 minutes ago, Dalgety Bay TA said: I think the lack of budget would cause problems for De Boer. Without wanting to go over old ground, Rangers have spent £18m of the £30m King thought they would need, in whatever areas of the club, but have very little to show for it on the actual pitch. Apart from Wallace you could easily argue that every player in the starting 11 needs replaced, that's not a small task to take on if you are shopping in the English lower leagues, or equivalent, market. They have spent 18 of the 30, but it was also mentioned that the estimate of 30 has turned out to be not enough, and would probably be increased. Having said that, I agree with you that we still wouldn't have the funds to satisfy De Boer becoming manager. I disagree every player needs to be replaced besides Wallace though. I don't think that initially we should focus on getting close to Celtic, but more specifically focus on forming a gap between us and Aberdeen/Hearts and anyone else that challenges at that level. We are almost on par with Aberdeen at the moment, and pretty certain that with a few needed additions, and more importantly someone who can get the best out of what we have, we can be comfortably ahead of Aberdeen. Easy to say though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 https://johnjamessite.com/2017/02/14/the-ibrox-electric-chair/ This reads a lot more truthfully than anything Jim Traynor and his pals have come out with in the last few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: They have spent 18 of the 30, but it was also mentioned that the estimate of 30 has turned out to be not enough, and would probably be increased. Having said that, I agree with you that we still wouldn't have the funds to satisfy De Boer becoming manager. I disagree every player needs to be replaced besides Wallace though. I don't think that initially we should focus on getting close to Celtic, but more specifically focus on forming a gap between us and Aberdeen/Hearts and anyone else that challenges at that level. We are almost on par with Aberdeen at the moment, and pretty certain that with a few needed additions, and more importantly someone who can get the best out of what we have, we can be comfortably ahead of Aberdeen. Easy to say though!! Any club in the SPFL could say the same though. Basically what you are saying is that if you hit every golf shot feckin' amazingly, you'd be on Tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, Parklife said: Warburton has done a very poor job IMO. His signings in the past 12 months have been little short of abysmal. I'll not labour the point on here, as i've done it enough already but it didn't take a genius to see he waste throwing money away. The frustration from the Rangers board of spending on players from a relatively expensive market, who'd have little sell on value. The most high profile signings have pretty much all worked out as expected. krancjar - injured Barton - bust up and sacked Senderos - bomb scare, sent off in debut then disappeared. O'halloran - decent mid table player, not suited to Rangers style of play Clint hill is one of the few "successes", but he's hardly part of a long term plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: Any club in the SPFL could say the same though. Basically what you are saying is that if you hit every golf shot feckin' amazingly, you'd be on Tour. If we had hit every golf shot perfectly we would be on par with Celtic, so I'm not saying that at all. I would argue that most teams in the SPL need a lot more than a few additions to be on par with Aberdeen this year. For example, what I believe we have done this year that a lot of other clubs haven't, is dominate all but 5 or 6 games totally. We are severely struggling up front and if we had a goalscorer, I genuinely believe that we would be 6 or 7 points clear in 2nd. I think we only needed say 2 players to achieve that. How many other clubs can say that? In terms of widening that gap further, we need a few additions and someone to organise it all, someone who can adapt and change, we havent had that for how long? Didn't need it last year, but feck we needed it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: If we had hit every golf shot perfectly we would be on par with Celtic, so I'm not saying that at all. I would argue that most teams in the SPL need a lot more than a few additions to be on par with Aberdeen this year. For example, what I believe we have done this year that a lot of other clubs haven't, is dominate all but 5 or 6 games totally. We are severely struggling up front and if we had a goalscorer, I genuinely believe that we would be 6 or 7 points clear in 2nd. I think we only needed say 2 players to achieve that. How many other clubs can say that? In terms of widening that gap further, we need a few additions and someone to organise it all, someone who can adapt and change, we havent had that for how long? Didn't need it last year, but feck we needed it this year. If Kenny Miller breaks his leg in training tomorrow, then Rangers will be knackered completely. Fact is, he alone probably kept Warburton in the job since November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: The most high profile signings have pretty much all worked out as expected. krancjar - injured Barton - bust up and sacked Senderos - bomb scare, sent off in debut then disappeared. O'halloran - decent mid table player, not suited to Rangers style of play Clint hill is one of the few "successes", but he's hardly part of a long term plan. Joe Garner - Expensive and Tom Kite Windass - Middling to pish Crooks - Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rossy said: If Kenny Miller breaks his leg in training tomorrow, then Rangers will be knackered completely. Fact is, he alone probably kept Warburton in the job since November. Our top scorer with 6. FFS, Dodoo has 2. Terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Our top scorer with 6. FFS, Dodoo has 2. Terrible. I think that proves your point in your post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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