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Loads of politicians do it. He's been targeted for nationalist reasons.

His lie targeted Sturgeon for Unionist reasons.

His hate for the SNP...and his believe that he was protected by the Unionist press.....encouraged his pathetic attempt to smear Nicola Sturgeon.

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It absolutely delights me you are right behind this decision and find the court action contemptible Alan. Means Im probably sitting on the right side of this argument.

It just clearly shows him for what he is

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I see he claims it was an attempt "to remove the last Scottish Liberal voice at Westminster" as if he is the valiant underdog champion of free speech, rather than a man with all the corruption and arrogance of power attempting to lie to thwart the popular groundswell turning against his party.

...Only to end up symbolising his party's abandonment of principle and disastrous decline

He's being urged to pursue costs against those who brought the case, his own constituents. That would be an interesting public relations exercise.

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I think I'd have had a sliver of respect for the man if he'd come out and admitted making a major mistake and that he'd learn from it - I'd have known he was lying (again) but that would have been the way I'd have played it. What he does, however, is portray the whole thing as a nationalist conspiracy to oust him, whilst heaping strain and pressure on him and his family. Scumbag.

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The labour party in Scotland made their choice. They chose not to have a left of centre Independent Scottish government and instead elected for perpetual conservative British Rule.

Being British was far more important to the Labour party than any hope of being socialist.

Labour is a lie.

"I am not a nationalist I am a socialist". Aye so you are ye hoor. :wink2:

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Murdoch? ;)

:lol:

Actually... Correct as well :ok:

The labour party in Scotland made their choice. They chose not to have a left of centre Independent Scottish government and instead elected for perpetual conservative British Rule.

Being British was far more important to the Labour party than any hope of being socialist.

Labour is a lie.

"I am not a nationalist I am a socialist". Aye so you are ye hoor. :wink2:

Carmichaels a Lib Dem you silly goose!

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Carmichaels a Lib Dem you silly goose!

I was not blabbing about him specifically.

It was notable that pretty much all the real left wingers sided with the SNP at the referendum.

The only left' wingers who did not and who openly embraced the tories were the so called Labour party. (They shat on socialist dreams in Scotland with that act.)

The SNP is not even a left wing party but clearly it offered real hope to left wingers. That is why so many of them flocked to it. Anyone who thinks the road to social justice is via the Labour party is clearly a mug. But that does not mean the SNP is, it isn't.

Just more musings on the nationalist v socialist equivalences...

The SNP were able to steal all of the socialist vote from labour without even offering socialism...just the whiff of a chance of it.

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I was not blabbing about him specifically.

It was notable that pretty much all the real left wingers sided with the SNP at the referendum.

The only left' wingers who did not and who openly embraced the tories were the so called Labour party. (They shat on socialist dreams in Scotland with that act.)

The SNP is not even a left wing party but clearly it offered real hope to left wingers. That is why so many of them flocked to it. Anyone who thinks the road to social justice is via the Labour party is clearly a mug. But that does not mean the SNP is, it isn't.

Just more musings on the nationalist v socialist equivalences...

The SNP were able to steal all of the socialist vote from labour without even offering socialism...just the whiff of a chance of it.

Aw shucks :wub:

That is actually the nicest thing you've ever said to me on here. This is the start of a beautiful friendship!

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Aw shucks :wub:

That is actually the nicest thing you've ever said to me on here. This is the start of a beautiful friendship!

And yet like a dug returning to its own vom you are back in the mouldy Labour fold... wtf?

But anyway does this not underline the value of pragmatism above idealism. Yeah we all want the world to be a paradise but we have to get there from here (near hell) somehow.

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Loads of politicians do it. He's been targeted for nationalist reasons.

Sad day for politics. Sad day if we just shrug our shoulders, wring our hands and say that's the sort of conduct we accept. You might be okay with your representatives lying through their teeth but I'd like to think we deserve better and well done to the Orkney 4 for at least trying to bring about a better standard in politics.

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And yet like a dug returning to its own vom you are back in the mouldy Labour fold... wtf?

But anyway does this not underline the value of pragmatism above idealism. Yeah we all want the world to be a paradise but we have to get there from here (near hell) somehow.

Ach call me old fashioned but I've always understood the importance that the Labour party holds for the Labour movement. I imagine that most on the left do, some (the mugs) believe the party can be reclaimed and there has never been a better opportunity. Some see other avenues as the right option. I respect both paths :ok:

Although saying that, one is backed up by the most comprehensive manifesto for achieving Socialism available today... And the other, hasn't... For the moment. I'm all hears to here it if ever developed/

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Meh. I just find that (ultimately) meaningless.

How do you see the world working in your view.

Who is running the show and how? (I am up for it, if it is fair etc)

His desired masters in London. By economically holding Scotland back and systematically lying to the Scottish public.

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