ParisInAKilt Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 6pm BBC news must have used the term "holding the city to ransom" at least 3 times. Greedy drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new hugh Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I walk to and from work (Bouverie St) every day so not affected. I'm all right Jack, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I walk to and from work (Bouverie St) every day so not affected. I'm all right Jack, etc. I recall a tube strike in mid 90s about this time of year ; used overland train then had to walk about an hour ( in new M&S moccasin style shoes that were a bit too tight)Not a pleasant day Think was Liverpool St to office by Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) They don't even 'drive' - they just check that it is clear to open / shut the doors and make announcements if there are any delays. £46k a year for that - which admittedly won't go very far in London, but hundreds of thousands must get by on much less. Edited July 9, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 They don't even 'drive' - they just check that it is clear to open / shut the doors and make announcements if there are any delays. £46k a year for that - which admittedly won't go very far in London, but hundreds of thousands must get by on much less. Cmon they do more than that And whatever we think about their salary the strike isn't about money and just about drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Cmon they do more than that And whatever we think about their salary the strike isn't about money and just about drivers Not much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Transport for LondonVerified account @TfL Unions have refused to respond to our increased offer & have refused to put it to their members. #tubestrike RMT London Calling @RMTLondon 21h21 hours ago We have responded. We shut the tube down. @TfL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Apologies, I was wrong, it's actually just a few hundred off 50 grand. Poor downtrodden workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 The tube drivers should are at it, a computer system could do the job better. They get paid for doing next to nothing, its a ridiculous wage that they earn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 It's not about money and not limited to drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Least they can afford to live in London, unlike other workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Yes, yes, it's apparently about 'unsociable hours', but I bet that could be smoothed over with wonga (which is clearly what they're after). "It can be repetitive having to check platforms before leaving stations, but it's a vital and important role." Edited July 9, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 Yes, yes, it's apparently about 'unsociable hours', but I bet that could be smoothed over with wonga (which is clearly what they're after). "It can be repetitive having to check platforms before leaving stations, but it's a vital and important role." I don't believe that's the case. There's also potential job losses for station staff and safety concerns with the new rosters. Change in working conditions without consultation and no discussion so fair play to them. Let's see how it plays out before just assuming it's all about money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 http://wire.novaramedia.com/2015/06/4-reasons-its-kicking-off-on-the-london-underground/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 http://wire.novaramedia.com/2015/06/4-reasons-its-kicking-off-on-the-london-underground/ ...and straight in at number 1 - An RMT activist and supporter of the Tubeworker bulletin explains what’s going on. 1. Pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Yes, yes, it's apparently about 'unsociable hours', but I bet that could be smoothed over with wonga (which is clearly what they're after). "It can be repetitive having to check platforms before leaving stations, but it's a vital and important role." What do you think is a fair increase in compensation for moving from one week of night shift per year to fourteen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) What do you think is a fair increase in compensation for moving from one week of night shift per year to fourteen? No idea to be honest - I'm working late and just bored. Edited July 9, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) What do you think is a fair increase in compensation for moving from one week of night shift per year to fourteen?Safety critical as well. Genuine concerns about sleep patterns from extended night shifts, etc.More power to them. One of the few groups of working class workers who genuinely wield some power in the job place. The rest of us have had the shit kicked out of us so bad we don't dare complain. Instead of bad mouthing a group of workers, we should be asking why isn't everyone on a decent wage with decent terms and conditions? "Divide and conquer" alive and kicking. Backed up by a complicit media. J Edited July 9, 2015 by Bristolhibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Safety critical as well. Genuine concerns about sleep patterns from extended night shifts, etc. More power to them. One of the few groups of working class workers who genuinely wield some power in the job place. The rest of us have had the shit kicked out of us so bad we don't dare complain. Instead of bad mouthing a group of workers, we should be asking why isn't everyone on a decent wage with decent terms and conditions? "Divide and conquer" alive and kicking. Backed up by a complicit media. J This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 This. x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Have a read of this article guys. http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7751262?utm_hp_ref=uk I quote - "So if the dispute isn't over pay, then what is it about? In the simplest terms, it's about rostering. As the proposals currently stand, tube workers are being opened up to the possibility of working unlimited night shifts, running roughshod over their entitlement to a life outside work. It's akin an office manager telling their 9-to-5 staff that they are to work from 2 o'clock in the afternoon to 10 at night without asking if that's alright. None of the unions involved are opposed to the Night Tube per se - introducing it would bring London Underground up to speed with the more complex New York Subway to an extent, but limits need to be placed on the number of night and weekend shifts individual members of staff will be expected to work. This is vitally important for passenger safety, as well as the health of those working the night shift." J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Safety critical as well. Genuine concerns about sleep patterns from extended night shifts, etc. More power to them. One of the few groups of working class workers who genuinely wield some power in the job place. The rest of us have had the shit kicked out of us so bad we don't dare complain. Instead of bad mouthing a group of workers, we should be asking why isn't everyone on a decent wage with decent terms and conditions? "Divide and conquer" alive and kicking. Backed up by a complicit media. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Safety critical as well. Genuine concerns about sleep patterns from extended night shifts, etc. More power to them. One of the few groups of working class workers who genuinely wield some power in the job place. The rest of us have had the shit kicked out of us so bad we don't dare complain. Instead of bad mouthing a group of workers, we should be asking why isn't everyone on a decent wage with decent terms and conditions? "Divide and conquer" alive and kicking. Backed up by a complicit media. J Well said. Up the workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Safety critical as well. Genuine concerns about sleep patterns from extended night shifts, etc. More power to them. One of the few groups of working class workers who genuinely wield some power in the job place. The rest of us have had the shit kicked out of us so bad we don't dare complain. Instead of bad mouthing a group of workers, we should be asking why isn't everyone on a decent wage with decent terms and conditions? "Divide and conquer" alive and kicking. Backed up by a complicit media. J Well said sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new hugh Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Nice clip of LBC's James OB in support of the tube workers: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/09/tube-strike-james-obrien-rant-support_n_7759890.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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