King Of Paisley Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Was in Dunoon for the weekend and the SNP campaign hub was really busy. Loads of folk handing out leaflets with not a Red Tory or Fib Dem to be seen. The wee man got one of those wee SNP foam hands hingmys and a badge which he was chuffed with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 SNP tried appealing to Conservative voters in North Ayrshire in 2010, stating that Tory voters had nothing to fear from the SNP... Seems old habits die hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Beat me to it scunnered there are plenty of English in Scotland who support the SNP as well. The founders of the scotster website are both English and yes supporters Are they bused in to support the SNP and run websites? If not, then their nationality is immaterial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Sorry should have quoted what I was replying to. It was Kent as a reply to the chap who said the folk nocking his door for labour had English accents and I was just pointing out that it is not just Scots who vote SNP and support indy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Maybe we should fly plane loads of Catalans and Basques over to campaign for us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Maybe we should fly plane loads of Catalans and Basques over to campaign for us... May I suggest Conservatives may be more apt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Read the Wikipedia article on the 1992 election where poll after opinion poll had Kinnock in the lead, and we all know how that panned out. That said, Kinnock didn't have such big leads such as the SNP have been enjoying. Still niggles away a wee bit that the same scenario could happen here. Maybe a wee bit of last minute jitters as Thursday looms? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Read the Wikipedia article on the 1992 election where poll after opinion poll had Kinnock in the lead, and we all know how that panned out. Kinnock had a big triumphalist rally a week before the election in front of 10,000 Labour members where they introduced the shadow cabinet as future ministers for this & that There is some debate to whether that made such a difference to the polls or whether the pollster tricksters were at work I think nowadays it wouldnt be worth it for pollsters to get it so badly wrong ...but yes im still nervous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Having hit 59 seat poll, there is now no chance of the SNP exceeding media expectation on election night. Anything less than 45% of the vote will be seen as a 'collapse' and anything short of 30 seats will be seen as 'disappointing'. Every 'Labour Hold' will be hailed as a brave rearguard victory by Murphy; every seat by the Tories or Lib Dems will be a triumph, a doughty blow against a one-party state. But still,... all to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 May I suggest Conservatives may be more apt? Happy to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 May I suggest Conservatives may be more apt? Yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm now seeing long term suspected Tory no voting traditional 'British' well educated middle class university types on facebook hint that they're voting SNP. I think the pigs have actually now taken off and are in full flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm now seeing long term suspected Tory no voting traditional 'British' well educated middle class university types on facebook hint that they're voting SNP. I think the pigs have actually now taken off and are in full flight. That might not actually be as far fetched as you think There actually was a Conservatives for Independence group The Wealthy Nation group led by historian Michael Fry supported Independence Also East Renfrewshire was previously a Tory seat and they may do the opposite & vote SNP to stop Murphy winning despite polls suggesting otherwise Obviously the angle of stopping Labour getting an outright majority by voting SNP and costing Labour seats wont apply and never has in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-30/u-k-election-exit-pollster-says-his-poll-may-be-vague-or-wrong So... we should ignore the exit poll... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-30/u-k-election-exit-pollster-says-his-poll-may-be-vague-or-wrong So... we should ignore the exit poll... Exit polls have been fairly accurate in recent elections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Exit polls have been fairly accurate in recent elections They have, but they're only polling very few Scottish seats. They could be completely wrong about the Scotland result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 They have, but they're only polling very few Scottish seats. They could be completely wrong about the Scotland result. true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Poll on RangersMedia: SNP leading among people on Rangers Media!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 They're ####ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Yawn If the candidates are courting them for votes why not go a step further? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 If the candidates are courting them for votes why not go a step further? Im no biting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Im no biting I'm no fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think Sturgeon has made her stance on the Tories crystal clear Anyway i still think the Tories will make a mockery of the polling down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think Sturgeon has made her stance on the Tories crystal clear That's makes the begging for conservative votes all the more embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm now seeing long term suspected Tory no voting traditional 'British' well educated middle class university types on facebook hint that they're voting SNP. I think the pigs have actually now taken off and are in full flight. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. In WM elections I think there's a fair chance that a lot of Scottish Tories vote SNP. AS I've mentioned with a decent SNP candidate in my area, that is precisely what I would have done (as I have done in the past) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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