wanderer Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I think with so many key players out Clarke took the chance to try some new idea's.... didn't work, but didn't quite fail either. Patterson being in and out the Everton team does not help, as he had spells of really good play, but on the whole it felt like the Georgian's had him in his back pocket. End of the day, Georgia are still a team who have only lost 1 home game in something like 3 years, and while we might have turned off a little, they clearly have both eyes on their Nations League play off in March. I think on Sunday Clarke will probably revert back closer to his regular system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 I reckon Jack Hendry did not play against Georgia as he was on two bookings and another booking would have seen him banned for the Norway match. Clarke probably felt they could make do without him V Georgia but not Norway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot1 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, wanderer said: I think with so many key players out Clarke took the chance to try some new idea's.... didn't work, but didn't quite fail either. Patterson being in and out the Everton team does not help, as he had spells of really good play, but on the whole it felt like the Georgian's had him in his back pocket. End of the day, Georgia are still a team who have only lost 1 home game in something like 3 years, and while we might have turned off a little, they clearly have both eyes on their Nations League play off in March. I think on Sunday Clarke will probably revert back closer to his regular system. I still think Patterson will eventually become the best right back we have. I think it might take a bit longer than I’d hoped though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023  23 man squad  Gunn 1 Gordon 2 McCrorie 3 Hickey 4 Patterson 5 Robertson 6 Tierney 7 Hendry 8 Porteous 9 McKenna 10 Gilmour 11 McGregor 12 McTominay 13 McGinn 14 Armstrong 15 McLean 16 Ferguson 17 Dykes 18 Christie 19 Adams 20 Doak 21 Brown 22 Shankland 23    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said:  23 man squad  Gunn 1 Gordon 2 McCrorie 3 Hickey 4 Patterson 5 Robertson 6 Tierney 7 Hendry 8 Porteous 9 McKenna 10 Gilmour 11 McGregor 12 McTominay 13 McGinn 14 Armstrong 15 McLean 16 Ferguson 17 Dykes 18 Christie 19 Adams 20 Doak 21 Brown 22 Shankland 23    Yes I would take that but I don't see McCrorie making the squad ahead of Clark or Kelly whilst hew remains at Rangers playing no football. I would love to see Doak there but time is sort of running out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Yes I would take that but I don't see McCrorie making the squad ahead of Clark or Kelly whilst hew remains at Rangers playing no football. I would love to see Doak there but time is sort of running out. I think McCrorie should go for the experience. We don’t need 3 keepers (but obliged to select them). Surely McCrorie won’t be at Rangers next season. Still time for Doak. It’s obvious we need to have the option of blistering pace off the bench. I’m sure Clarke would have put him on last night if he’d made the squad - much like he did with Shankland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Yes I would take that but I don't see McCrorie making the squad ahead of Clark or Kelly whilst hew remains at Rangers playing no football. I would love to see Doak there but time is sort of running out. Clark isn’t an international standard goalie. I’m not convinced Kelly is either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Clark isn’t an international standard goalie. I’m not convinced Kelly is either I am not convinced either and it is an area we desperately need to strengthen. I think we need to have a young keeper in there to mould for the future behind Gunn and Gordon who is preferably getting first team football. There must be one out there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Clark isn’t an international standard goalie. I’m not convinced Kelly is either Whether they are or not, I just can’t see Clarke dropping both of them from the Euro squad. When you consider how many squads they’ve been in and the time they’ve had on the pitch since Gunn got injured, it would be brutal to dump them both before the tournament. Clarke is loyal, unless there is an obvious upgrade. Gordon or McCrorie would have to be getting games and playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, er yir macaroon said:  23 man squad  Gunn 1 Gordon 2 McCrorie 3 Hickey 4 Patterson 5 Robertson 6 Tierney 7 Hendry 8 Porteous 9 McKenna 10 Gilmour 11 McGregor 12 McTominay 13 McGinn 14 Armstrong 15 McLean 16 Ferguson 17 Dykes 18 Christie 19 Adams 20 Doak 21 Brown 22 Shankland 23    Think I might be inclined to take another CB, bearing in mind how injury prone Tierney is. Would love to see Doak make it for something different, we’re so lacking up front. What a difference a top class striker would make to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Black Bra said: Whether they are or not, I just can’t see Clarke dropping both of them from the Euro squad. When you consider how many squads they’ve been in and the time they’ve had on the pitch since Gunn got injured, it would be brutal to dump them both before the tournament. Clarke is loyal, unless there is an obvious upgrade. Gordon or McCrorie would have to be getting games and playing well. Well if Gordon regains his first team spot at Hearts it sort of puts Clark out of the equation anyway. And lets be honest the No 3 goalie at the Euros is not going to feature so may as well take a younger keeper along with the future in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot1 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I’m hoping Ross Stewart starts to bang the goals in for Southampton and pushes for a spot in the squad. I think he potentially is our best Centre Forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Scot1 said: I’m hoping Ross Stewart starts to bang the goals in for Southampton and pushes for a spot in the squad. I think he potentially is our best Centre Forward. I didn't realise he was 27 already. If he's banging them on in the championship he will put himself right in the frame for a place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot1 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I didn't realise he was 27 already. If he's banging them on in the championship he will put himself right in the frame for a place. Yeah he spent many years in lower league clubs in Scotland, even played Juniors at one point, I think. Shame no one seemed to see his talent until so late on. He’s also just spent nearly 1 year out with an ACL. But hopefully he’ll be a late bloomer for Scotland. Edited November 17, 2023 by Scot1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, er yir macaroon said:  23 man squad  Gunn 1 Gordon 2 McCrorie 3 Hickey 4 Patterson 5 Robertson 6 Tierney 7 Hendry 8 Porteous 9 McKenna 10 Gilmour 11 McGregor 12 McTominay 13 McGinn 14 Armstrong 15 McLean 16 Ferguson 17 Dykes 18 Christie 19 Adams 20 Doak 21 Brown 22 Shankland 23    I'd have absolutely no problem with that squad. I do think he'll take Hanley and possibly Cooper as well, though. The likes of Fraser and Turnbull could stake a claim as well if they can get a run of games in the 2nd half of the season. I 100% would include Doak, but Clarke might decide it is just a tad early for him. Someone mentioned that Clarke may be loyal to certain players. He is to an extent, but I don't think it has ever really stopped him from making big changes. He was loyal to O'Donnell and Gallagher until he wasn't. He will happily drop someone if there is an obviously better player out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, Scot1 said: I’m hoping Ross Stewart starts to bang the goals in for Southampton and pushes for a spot in the squad. I think he potentially is our best Centre Forward. I think you might be right, I believe he is very hard working also so he should suit our preferred one up front system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Important to note that Doak will be playing tonight for the u21s away v Belgium. Live on the Scotland National Team Youtube page. This is the sort of game for him to stake a claim for the Euros, along with the Nations League and the odd EPL game. Edited November 17, 2023 by er yir macaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, er yir macaroon said:  23 man squad  Gunn 1 Gordon 2 McCrorie 3 Hickey 4 Patterson 5 Robertson 6 Tierney 7 Hendry 8 Porteous 9 McKenna 10 Gilmour 11 McGregor 12 McTominay 13 McGinn 14 Armstrong 15 McLean 16 Ferguson 17 Dykes 18 Christie 19 Adams 20 Doak 21 Brown 22 Shankland 23    Squad is far too heavy on attacking players. Will be at least 1 if not 2 more defenders in there. For a variety of reasons. One being we will play 5 at the back, 2 being one of our defenders (Tierney) is very injury prone and 3 being that defenders are much more likely to get suspended. I think he takes 3 strikers who will be Adams, Dykes and 1 other between Shankland, Brown, Nisbett Personally I dont think Doak makes it as he would have to drop one of McGinn, Mactominay, Christie, Armstrong or Ferguson. (Thats bascially 5 players for 2 positions although McTom can play deeper).  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, ProudScot said: Clark isn’t an international standard goalie. I’m not convinced Kelly is either Kelly certainly isn't. Neither are unfortunately. Hence why Gordon will be in the squad in March if fit and will also be Hearts number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, er yir macaroon said:  23 man squad  Gunn 1 Gordon 2 McCrorie 3 Hickey 4 Patterson 5 Robertson 6 Tierney 7 Hendry 8 Porteous 9 McKenna 10 Gilmour 11 McGregor 12 McTominay 13 McGinn 14 Armstrong 15 McLean 16 Ferguson 17 Dykes 18 Christie 19 Adams 20 Doak 21 Brown 22 Shankland 23    Doak needs to be playing at some level consistently to make the squad i think.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I'd rather Marshall come out of retirement than have Kelly or Clark in goal again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 On Radio Scotland last night they were name dropping Harvey Barnes in a way that it sounds like it a done deal that he will switch to us, but nobody is going with the exclusive just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Kelly certainly isn't. Neither are unfortunately. Hence why Gordon will be in the squad in March if fit and will also be Hearts number 1. Totally agree. I think Gunn, Gordon, McCrorie and in that order would be the three for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Diamond Scot said: Squad is far too heavy on attacking players. Will be at least 1 if not 2 more defenders in there. For a variety of reasons. One being we will play 5 at the back, 2 being one of our defenders (Tierney) is very injury prone and 3 being that defenders are much more likely to get suspended. I think he takes 3 strikers who will be Adams, Dykes and 1 other between Shankland, Brown, Nisbett Personally I dont think Doak makes it as he would have to drop one of McGinn, Mactominay, Christie, Armstrong or Ferguson. (Thats bascially 5 players for 2 positions although McTom can play deeper).  Doak is in, that’s why there’s one fewer defender. Hickey and Tierney are versatile enough to shuffle around, plus if there is a crisis we can go to a back four or use McTominay. Doak salvages games or wins them in the last 15 minutes. At least that’s the plan. Let’s see how he does tonight against top class opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Doak needs to be playing at some level consistently to make the squad i think.  Agree to an extent, and that could well happen. A first team game every 3 weeks with u23 games to maintain fitness would be fine. We need a wild card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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