Charlie Endell Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) I found this quite interesting - http://www.80mg.org.uk/ddfacts.html "However, there is considerable evidence to suggest that, for drivers in the "morning after" category, the risks may be overstated, as the effect of alcohol on impairing driving performance tends to wear off more quickly than the actual level of alcohol in the bloodstream. This is a recognised medical phenomenon known as the "Mellanby effect". Therefore, even if a substantial change in behaviour was achieved, it is doubtful whether it would in practice have a significant impact on casualties." Edited October 27, 2014 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is he religious? In the sense he thinks someone will be judged in another life after death. As always i guess it depends on what parameters folk set for religious. they might not go to church every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I found this quite interesting - http://www.80mg.org.uk/ddfacts.html "However, there is considerable evidence to suggest that, for drivers in the "morning after" category, the risks may be overstated, as the effect of alcohol on impairing driving performance tends to wear off more quickly than the actual level of alcohol in the bloodstream. This is a recognised medical phenomenon known as the "Mellanby effect". Therefore, even if a substantial change in behaviour was achieved, it is doubtful whether it would in practice have a significant impact on casualties." Aye you are "more drunker" when increasing the alcohol levels than you would be when it's reducing. I had no idea about that at all till i read it. It's affected by the rate of consumption as well. You'll appear more drunk at the same levels of BAC if you drank it faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I found this quite interesting - http://www.80mg.org.uk/ddfacts.html "However, there is considerable evidence to suggest that, for drivers in the "morning after" category, the risks may be overstated, as the effect of alcohol on impairing driving performance tends to wear off more quickly than the actual level of alcohol in the bloodstream. This is a recognised medical phenomenon known as the "Mellanby effect". Therefore, even if a substantial change in behaviour was achieved, it is doubtful whether it would in practice have a significant impact on casualties." It also says that "as a rough guide an eleven stone man drinking 2 units of alcohol quickly on an empty stomach will reach a peak level of 30 mg/100ml." So fat gits could probably still just about get away with a couple of pints. Not sure I would trust that source of information though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 It also says that "as a rough guide an eleven stone man drinking 2 units of alcohol quickly on an empty stomach will reach a peak level of 30 mg/100ml." So fat gits could probably still just about get away with a couple of pints. Not sure I would trust that source of information though. I used to work with a seriously large bloke (20-stone-ish) and he had a heavy (pardon the pun) session at an office Christmas party - he was stopped and breathalyzed first thing the next morning and his breath / alcohol count barely registered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Incidentally i've been breathalysed about 4 times in the last few years, i sometimes pick my mum up from work on sunday mornings, and it can be early like 3 or 4 am. Police bored pull you over try and think up a pretext for stopping you, the best one a WPC stood for 15 seconds "thinking" then said one of your wheel nuts looks weird, i complimented her for spotting that in the dark from behind the car and informed her it was an alloy wheel lock and it was meant to look "weird", however i;d be happy to consent to any sobriety check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Here's another thing they found, the more likely you are to put shit like furry dice and "accessories" on your car the more likely you are to have road rage. Due to your ego covering your car (by personalize it and making identity claims with it) the less personalisation equals less claims by the ego and then therefore less likely to have emotional reactions to situations. I bought the burd some Dortmund car dice from the club shop as a shite present, will that make her more road rage?? Edited October 28, 2014 by Kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It's affected by the rate of consumption as well. You'll appear more drunk at the same levels of BAC if you drank it faster. From personal experience you won't merely "appear more drunk"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 From personal experience you won't merely "appear more drunk"... True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I bought the burd some Dortmund car dice from the club shop as a shite present, will that make her more road rage?? Ever the gent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasputin Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why not cut just their hands off as well. Are you honestly trying to equate a ban with the removal of someones hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Are you honestly trying to equate a ban with the removal of someones hands? I see where you are coming from. It would be more like cutting off someones feet. Some folk can't go anywhere without the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Its simple. Don't have a drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I found this quite interesting - http://www.80mg.org.uk/ddfacts.html "However, there is considerable evidence to suggest that, for drivers in the "morning after" category, the risks may be overstated, as the effect of alcohol on impairing driving performance tends to wear off more quickly than the actual level of alcohol in the bloodstream. This is a recognised medical phenomenon known as the "Mellanby effect". Therefore, even if a substantial change in behaviour was achieved, it is doubtful whether it would in practice have a significant impact on casualties." I think there's also evidence that shows that when you combine low alcohol blood levels with tiredness, the effect amplifies. Considering that morning afters often involve reduced sleep and poor quality sleep, the effects can be different from a straight measure of the effect on the downslope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Nation - Your Nation Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It will soon be that you cannot have a drop MNYN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Its simple. Don't have a drink. Whit? Ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Its simple. Don't have a drink.I'd agree with that.I'd normally have 1 bottle of beer, occasionally 2 over the course of an evening or before the football, knowing it's a few hours before I'm driving. I probably won't bother now. So it will have a positive effect in that way. The morning/afternoon after is where I really won't have a clue as I'm sure many others won't. I genuinely don't know how much and how late you would have to drink for it to become an issue? 6 pints and in bed for 11pm? A shower and a cup of tea and I'd feel fine to go at 830am, but I may not be... Again making folk think twice has to be a good thing, but catching folk the morning after shouldn't be the point, folk who drive home from the pub (or golf/bowling club) every weekend are more of an issue in my eyes. I was surprised at how big the rise in risk were based on the stats posted earlier! Edited October 28, 2014 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Just make it an absolute zero...Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Just make it an absolute zero...Sorted. Yes, following enlightened countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is the way forward. Edited October 28, 2014 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ever the gent. I do try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menschlich Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 More nanny state shite. The problem isn't people having a tiny bit over or less than the old limit, it's the fact that some people are still going to drink drive anyway. You can't solve every problem in the world and I certainly don't trust the government to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibble Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Pissed at night - tanned in the am - I have never done it. And I drink. Not being funny but, I have issues -= sort yersel' ooot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibble Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yes, following enlightened countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is the way forward. Dpne the Saudi shit - liars, trheives and hypocrites! Juust asaying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Scottish Nanny Party knows best. Before they imposed a ban on multi-buy discounts on alcohol I was so weak-willed I was going into Sainsbury's and filling my trolley with every offer available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yes, following enlightened countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is the way forward. I believe they have oxygen in those countries - should we ban that, too, lest we follow their wicked example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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