Texas Pete Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Starting to look like Italy might need a playoff spot. They are a shadow of the team they were 2 years ago. Incredible really. I still think they’ll finish second in their group though. They need to beat North Macedonia at home and avoid defeat ‘away’ to Ukraine in Germany. Even the other way round would do it. Still very much in their hands. Would be typical if they did need a playoff and ended up being our pot 4 team though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, romanticscot said: If I did this right, here are what the current pots looks like, let get this out the way - we really want to be a pot 3 team instead of pot 2 which will become clearer shortly. Pot 1 - Germany, Portugal, France, Belgium, England and Spain Pot 2 - Turkey, Albania, Hungary, Slovenia, Romania and Austria Pot 3 - Scotland, Denmark, Netherlands, Czech Rep, Ukraine and Serbia Pot 4 - Slovakia, Wales, Switzerland plus One of Croatia, Poland, Finland, Bosnia One of Israel, Italy, Iceland, Greece One of Georgia, Kazakstan, Luxembourg, Estonia I fully expect Ukraine and Italy to swop places. If we had needed the playoff, we would have be in the first playoff group with Croatia, Poland and Bosnia. I want to be pot 3 for the sake of the Euro draw, I want to be Pot 2 and have two extra wins under our belt for the sake of FIFA rankings to help our World Cup qualification group. Italy into the play offs and into pot 4 whilst we win our 2 games and clinch a pot 2 spot. December 2nd comes around and lo and behold..... France Scotland Netherlands Italy 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, romanticscot said: If I did this right, here are what the current pots looks like, let get this out the way - we really want to be a pot 3 team instead of pot 2 which will become clearer shortly. Pot 1 - Germany, Portugal, France, Belgium, England and Spain Pot 2 - Turkey, Albania, Hungary, Slovenia, Romania and Austria Pot 3 - Scotland, Denmark, Netherlands, Czech Rep, Ukraine and Serbia Pot 4 - Slovakia, Wales, Switzerland plus One of Croatia, Poland, Finland, Bosnia One of Israel, Italy, Iceland, Greece One of Georgia, Kazakstan, Luxembourg, Estonia I fully expect Ukraine and Italy to swop places. If we had needed the playoff, we would have be in the first playoff group with Croatia, Poland and Bosnia. I want to be pot 3 for the sake of the Euro draw, I want to be Pot 2 and have two extra wins under our belt for the sake of FIFA rankings to help our World Cup qualification group. The playoffs are a bit more complicated than that. Greece were in NL League C so go into Path C with Georgia etc. Estonia winning NL League D puts them in Path A with the "best" non-qualifiers. Since there won't be 4 NL League A teams to go into Path A, there'll be a random draw with the best non-qualifying League B teams who didn't win their groups. If we'd been in the playoffs we'd have been in Path B. Edited October 17, 2023 by DC92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 The updated probabilities for pots: And the projected pots: Italy now expected to be in Pot 4 - even if they qualify automatically. 🤔 Very little between the teams in Pot 2 and Pot 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: The updated probabilities for pots: And the projected pots: Italy now expected to be in Pot 4 - even if they qualify automatically. 🤔 Very little between the teams in Pot 2 and Pot 3. If this ultimately turns out to be the case, like some poster mentioned earlier, we really are better off as a pot 3 team than a pot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 16 hours ago, todd said: If this ultimately turns out to be the case, like some poster mentioned earlier, we really are better off as a pot 3 team than a pot 2 Whats the chances of being a pot 3 team? Those pots look like a nightmare, we could end up with France, Netherlands and Italy. Nearly all the teams in pot 3 are good sides. I think our chances of progressing out the groups comes purely down to the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Fae Hamilton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I made a Topic on this, but should've posted here. I agree with pretty much everything that has been said. Here was my Post on the Topic: Win our last 2 which is very achievable and we are in Pot 2! Although, the difference between Pot 2 and being in Pot 3 is probably going to be minimal. Maybe we will even be worse off. The link below shows the CURRENT Positions for Seeding. And then it covers the PREDICTED finishing Spots. Worst 3 Pot 2 Teams to get: Denmark, Turkey, Switzerland (It'll be like a HOME Game for Turkey and Switzerland) Worst 3 Pot 3 Teams to get: Croatia, Czech Rep, Netherlands But you know what, MOMENTUM is everything. So I hope we go on and win our last 2 regardless of the permutations. I reckon we will beat Norway easy at HOME, and as ever, Georgia AWAY is the Banana Skin! Link for STATS below: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sPAM6KBimzCIqsRICuLOUT0R_UQsWzcWiv1rEnHS4DE/edit?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Incredible to think that if we win our 2 remaining games, we'll finish the group with an 11 point gap on our nearest rival for qualification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Really think we need to go for it no matter what in November and regain some momentum after 3 defeats on the bounce. Teams will be in pots 2 or 3 for a reason. But we simply must get out of the group this time, no excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:58 PM, Clyde1998 said: The updated probabilities for pots: If we look at those teams in isolation we have proven we can live with a number of them recently. Spain we beat at Hampden. Denmark we beat at Hampden at the end of the World Cup qualifying campaign, Albania I believe we beat home and away in a Nations League campaign. Austria we drew at home (should have won) and beat away from home in World Cup qualifying. Netherlands we drew against in a friendly leading up to the last Euros. Serbia we held to a draw away before beating on pens in last Euros play-off. Israel - yes we have had numerous battles against but in general we came out on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundsKeeper Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Only advantage of not winning the group, is we might get Germany as Pot 1. Still raging though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 hours ago, GroundsKeeper said: Only advantage of not winning the group, is we might get Germany as Pot 1. Still raging though. Me too. If McTominays goal stands, we're at the very least drawing that game, imo, and odds on to be pot one. Robbing Uefa cuntz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundsKeeper Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 22 hours ago, todd said: Me too. If McTominays goal stands, we're at the very least drawing that game, imo, and odds on to be pot one. Robbing Uefa cuntz Agree 100 percent . If that goal stands we either win or very least draw. Goals change games. The spanish had stopped their Mexican wave. They were there for the taking and we did score. The disallowed goal gave them a massive lift as they knew it was 11 vs 12 on the pitch and 11 vs 4 VAR team all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I'm not too bothered who we get as long as it's not England. Not because I don't think we could give them a game if we put our minds to it, but because I don't want our tournament reduced by the media to a pishy 'Battle of Britain' sideshow in the biennial "Three Lions" circus, like in Euro 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I know that this isn't the correct topic for discussion, but am I the only one that thinks it's ridiculous that this should ever be the case? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12635691/Why-Republic-Ireland-better-served-LOSING-Netherlands-beating-Euro-2024-qualifying-month-UEFAs-play-throws-bizarre-predicament.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdgsct Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Unlikely to matter as Estonia, Norway, Italy/Ukraine, Wales/Croatia and Poland are ahead of them in the queue if ive understood it correctly. If Greece had beaten Holland it would might have been an issue. Quite an oversight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, bdgsct said: Unlikely to matter as Estonia, Norway, Italy/Ukraine, Wales/Croatia and Poland are ahead of them in the queue if ive understood it correctly. If Greece had beaten Holland it would might have been an issue. Quite an oversight. Matter or not, something's fucked up when there's the potential for deliberately losing a game of football being beneficial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 See Cyprus just scored against Spain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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