TDYER63 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, GroundsKeeper said: Will be interesting to see what comes out of this. Is the camper van saga still rumbling on aswell ? From an independence point of view absolutely nothing positive will come of this. Yes Camper van investigation still not concluded, whole thing is a total joke and is as clear as Ally’s tenement flat washing line view that it’s deliberately being dragged out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Orraloon said: If he makes any more he will be seen as "grandstanding" by some folk. 😉 No ats sturgeons specialty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 5 hours ago, vanderark14 said: I think he's made a couple of statements. Should have worded it better, a plan of action or what can be done to save the plant, why does he not come out fighting and call out what it actually is, assist stripping,, I may be wrong but I haven’t seen him come out with any clear plan of action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Should have worded it better, a plan of action or what can be done to save the plant, why does he not come out fighting and call out what it actually is, assist stripping,, I may be wrong but I haven’t seen him come out with any clear plan of action I don't think anyone had mate. He's come out to say they are working with with owners. Don't think he can do much more at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: From an independence point of view absolutely nothing positive will come of this. Yes Camper van investigation still not concluded, whole thing is a total joke and is as clear as Ally’s tenement flat washing line view that it’s deliberately being dragged out. Not too sure of that tbh, there must be something before it’s being dragged out so much, maybe it crosses into other live investigations that is very “sensitive” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: From an independence point of view absolutely nothing positive will come of this. Yes Camper van investigation still not concluded, whole thing is a total joke and is as clear as Ally’s tenement flat washing line view that it’s deliberately being dragged out. If and it's a big if salmons won some credibility back.......I'd back him to deliver independence before anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 hours ago, TDYER63 said: Interesting anecdote 😂 Were you the obligatory peeping tom… ? Not on this occasion The backstairs close lead down to a landing and then another set of stairs to the ground level On the landing was a washing line tied to a pole across from it where not only could you put out your washing but you could have a rest from the amount of fucking stairs you had to climb Think i was going out the back to go and get my chopper We moved in 1988 - i like to think if we had stayed there i wouldnt be as big now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Not too sure of that tbh, there must be something before it’s being dragged out so much, maybe it crosses into other live investigations that is very “sensitive” Might be , though I would bet on it being a much simpler reason. 7 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: If and it's a big if salmons won some credibility back.......I'd back him to deliver independence before anyone else I would back him to deliver too but I doubt most of the population we are trying to win over would , regardless of the outcome. I dont think the people needing convinced are interested in whether AS was wronged or not, they want facts , figures, and security . Salmond winning credibility would be at the expense of a SG scandal and massive lack of trust in Scotlands ability to run itself . By anyone. It is absolutely the right thing for truth to be outed even if it does come at this cost, but absolutely nothing positive will be gained for independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Not on this occasion The backstairs close lead down to a landing and then another set of stairs to the ground level On the landing was a washing line tied to a pole across from it where not only could you put out your washing but you could have a rest from the amount of fucking stairs you had to climb Think i was going out the back to go and get my chopper We moved in 1988 - i like to think if we had stayed there i wouldnt be as big now 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 5 hours ago, TDYER63 said: Interesting anecdote 😂 Were you the obligatory peeping tom… ? Aye, surreptitiously watching women hanging oot their undies sounds a wee bit dodgy to me. 😉 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Aye, surreptitiously watching women hanging oot their undies sounds a wee bit dodgy to me. 😉 😂 Holy fuk, I've just read that he had his chopper oot as well. Different times, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: When i was about 13/14 there was a couple that lived in the same tenement building that we did. They were in their 30s and the guy Peter's mode of transport was a big fancy motorbike and his wife rode on the pillion. She was a wee smasher with blonde hair and my older cousin said that she was the talk of the boozer when she went in for a drink with her husband. I asked him if they had seen her without make up as i had when she was putting her washing out on the line and it was eye opening verging on scary Rosa reminds me of her 🤭 It's a shame poor Mark McDonald didn't know that story, it might have saved his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: Holy fuk, I've just read that he had his chopper oot as well. Different times, I suppose. 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 4:31 PM, Toepoke said: Herald shifting its viewpoint?... https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/viewpoint/23931635.caring-view-migration-eu-yes/ Ok maybe I jumped the gun a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 20 hours ago, TDYER63 said: Might be , though I would bet on it being a much simpler reason. I would back him to deliver too but I doubt most of the population we are trying to win over would , regardless of the outcome. I dont think the people needing convinced are interested in whether AS was wronged or not, they want facts , figures, and security . Salmond winning credibility would be at the expense of a SG scandal and massive lack of trust in Scotlands ability to run itself . By anyone. It is absolutely the right thing for truth to be outed even if it does come at this cost, but absolutely nothing positive will be gained for independence. Michael Barrymore was cleared. You will never see him back on mainstream television as mud sticks. Many other examples such as this too. Even if he did manage to somehow get back in a position of power he'd be a piss easy target for unionists and the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Michael Barrymore was cleared. You will never see him back on mainstream television as mud sticks. Many other examples such as this too. Even if he did manage to somehow get back in a position of power he'd be a piss easy target for unionists and the media. Correct - sadly his career as a leading politician is over He is still a prominent voice but for Independence it would be better if he moved to the background once, and if, The SNP has a clear out and is rejuvinated (unlikely in the short term) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 17 hours ago, Toepoke said: Ok maybe I jumped the gun a bit... What an utter waste of time and money. Are these awards an actual thing ? 😂 The ‘One to Watch ‘ award 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 56 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: What an utter waste of time and money. Are these awards an actual thing ? 😂 The ‘One to Watch ‘ award 🤣 Been going for as long as Holyrood... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Politician_of_the_Year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cutler Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 11:22 AM, TDYER63 said: From an independence point of view absolutely nothing positive will come of this. Yes Camper van investigation still not concluded, whole thing is a total joke and is as clear as Ally’s tenement flat washing line view that it’s deliberately being dragged out. There's been a lot of airmiles harnessed in the campervan investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Still nothing from humza regarding grangemouth, absolutely bonkers,,,, media trying to pretend nothing has happened either,, extremely strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 2:44 PM, Toepoke said: Been going for as long as Holyrood... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Politician_of_the_Year I remember the curtains being set on fire, I didn’t realise it was at an award ceremony. This honestly is a load of nonsense . If pro independence MP’s won every award I would say the same thing. The only people MP’s are accountable to is the electorate, not the media, particularly these days. Just another excuse for a jolly piss up. How do they determine the winners , what criteria do they use ? Look at some of the winners in this category . Ffs Debaters ? Willie Rennie , Kezia Dugdale 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Still nothing from humza regarding grangemouth, absolutely bonkers,,,, media trying to pretend nothing has happened either,, extremely strange The latter isn't strange at all, knowing the media in this country. They don't want to highlight the issue in case pennies - finally - start dropping with folk. The former though is strange - the leader of the SNP should be kicking up merry hell about this, or, better yet, be looking at options to keep the place open, considering he's the FM of Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, scotlad said: The former though is strange - the leader of the SNP should be kicking up merry hell about this, or, better yet, be looking at options to keep the place open, considering he's the FM of Scotland. He has been and he is. It took me literally 10 seconds to find this. Edited November 28, 2023 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, aaid said: He has been and he is. It took me literally 10 seconds to find this. You mentioned Angus and a trip abroad in the same post. I can hear the steam hissing out of ears from here. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, aaid said: He has been and he is. It took me literally 10 seconds to find this. 🤣 wow really proactive, send out a tweet that you had a meeting, a meeting about what exactly? Seems to me that he has accepted the place will close and that’s it, no fight to keep it open,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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