Malcolm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: i quite like mctominay at centre back, i think he does well there for us. ithink he looks good bringing the ball out from the back, but suspect positionally and being caught under the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Malcolm said: ithink he looks good bringing the ball out from the back, but suspect positionally and being caught under the ball yeh tbf you could say that of most of our centre backs from the last 20 years. i think hes done well in the position but i can understand that ppl want him in the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, thesaint said: Keep trying.I'm sure you will get there eventually. Well done, you managed a post without ranting about Che Adams, clever boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, Malcolm said: If tierney doesn’t make it do you think we will stick with 5 at the back? Yes. 100% We're now playing a system where we're hard to beat and harder to score against. The numbers back that up. Anyone that thinks Steve Clarke is sticking to this system just to accommodate Tierney and Robertson is a fool. Maybe that's how it started, but not anymore. Hendry - Hanley - Cooper/McKenna (Looks pretty good, if Tierney doesn't make it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lewis-morgan-sets-sights-scotland-23926100 Lewis Morgan should be in the mix for Euro 2020. His club have some star players, to get MVP is no mean feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I'd rather have James Forrest than Lewis Morgan @Kirk🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lewis-morgan-sets-sights-scotland-23926100 Lewis Morgan should be in the mix for Euro 2020. His club have some star players, to get MVP is no mean feat. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but you throw a lot of names about. I wonder how you would manage to fit them all into a 25 man squad. The goalkeepers aside, we're a fairly young side. A lot of these players will amass 50+ caps. It'll be hard to accommodate all the up and coming talent in the short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The anchor man role is now a worry. Not sure who is capable of playing that role against England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, bigfingers said: The anchor man role is now a worry. Not sure who is capable of playing that role against England. Tierney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: i quite like mctominay at centre back, i think he does well there for us. He’s decent in that position but he’s an outstanding midfielder. He has some brilliant games for Man U this season. We have 2 world class LBs, neither of whom play at LB for us and one of the best British midfielders who regularly plays in the right of a back 3 for us. Not exactly playing to our strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 It is a slippy slope that you are heading down,when you start wanting guys to get picked that have no commitment to the cause.Would really hate to go down the rugby route.That is a f..king joke.Still makes we want to puke when I see that picture of Adams in the England shirt.Realise,I will just have to accept it,but I certainly don't have to like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Tartan blood said: I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but you throw a lot of names about. I wonder how you would manage to fit them all into a 25 man squad. The goalkeepers aside, we're a fairly young side. A lot of these players will amass 50+ caps. It'll be hard to accommodate all the up and coming talent in the short term. I know. But it's nice to have options. Plus Morgan is very much a creative outlet. Has it officially been increased from 23 to 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, thesaint said: It is a slippy slope that you are heading down,when you start wanting guys to get picked that have no commitment to the cause.Would really hate to go down the rugby route.That is a f..king joke.Still makes we want to puke when I see that picture of Adams in the England shirt.Realise,I will just have to accept it,but I certainly don't have to like it. We did beat England at rugby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: We did beat England at rugby. So we did.Who scored our try again.?Oh yeah,Duhan van der Merwe.When did the western cape become part of Scotland.Totally ridiculous and pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Well done, you managed a post without ranting about Che Adams, clever boy. Thanks mate.Coming from you that means a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: Yes. 100% We're now playing a system where we're hard to beat and harder to score against. The numbers back that up. Anyone that thinks Steve Clarke is sticking to this system just to accommodate Tierney and Robertson is a fool. Maybe that's how it started, but not anymore. Hendry - Hanley - Cooper/McKenna (Looks pretty good, if Tierney doesn't make it) Will that formation be anywhere near as effective in making us hard to beat if Tierney isn’t involved though? Not looking for another debate on the best formation but any formation is only as good as the players that are chosen to play in it. Will certainly be interesting to see what Clarke does if Tierney doesn’t make it but hopefully it won’t come to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Texas Pete said: Will that formation be anywhere near as effective in making us hard to beat if Tierney isn’t involved though? Not looking for another debate on the best formation but any formation is only as good as the players that are chosen to play in it. Will certainly be interesting to see what Clarke does if Tierney doesn’t make it but hopefully it won’t come to that. Yes. Steve Clarke has seen the numbers. I've posted the numbers. We are more solid with a 3. There is no argument to be made. I literally cannot remember when we were solid with a 4. It was in 1992. My earliest tournament was '96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Yes. Steve Clarke has seen the numbers. I've posted the numbers. We are more solid with a 3. There is no argument to be made. I literally cannot remember when we were solid with a 4. It was in 1992. My earliest tournament was '96. I hate to disappoint you but I don’t think Steve Clarke frequents these pages. The numbers don’t really matter. What happened in 1992 isn’t really relevant to now. Whether we are better with a 3 or 4 at the back really depends on the players at our disposal. That has been my position all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: I hate to disappoint you but I don’t think Steve Clarke frequents these pages. The numbers don’t really matter. What happened in 1992 isn’t really relevant to now. Whether we are better with a 3 or 4 at the back really depends on the players at our disposal. That has been my position all along. I hate to disappoint you but I think Steve Clarke is intelligent enough to look up statistics. Scotland have not been capable of playing with a three since 1992. The facts bear it out. There's a reason why Craig Brown ripped up Andy Roxburgh's template and introduced 3-5-2. There's a reason why Vogts and Burley and Smith failed. There's a reason why McLeish and Strachen flirted with a three at the back and shied away when the media and online fans objected . And there's a reason why, when Steve Clarke STUCK with a three... and we qualified. This is what vindicated looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Texas Pete said: Will that formation be anywhere near as effective in making us hard to beat if Tierney isn’t involved though? Not looking for another debate on the best formation but any formation is only as good as the players that are chosen to play in it. Will certainly be interesting to see what Clarke does if Tierney doesn’t make it but hopefully it won’t come to that. Did you really have to?🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: I hate to disappoint you but I think Steve Clarke is intelligent enough to look up statistics. Scotland have not been capable of playing with a three since 1992. The facts bear it out. There's a reason why Craig Brown ripped up Andy Roxburgh's template and introduced 3-5-2. There's a reason why Vogts and Burley and Smith failed. There's a reason why McLeish and Strachen flirted with a three at the back and shied away when the media and online fans objected . And there's a reason why, when Steve Clarke STUCK with a three... and we qualified. This is what vindicated looks like. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 11 hours ago, thesaint said: It is a slippy slope that you are heading down,when you start wanting guys to get picked that have no commitment to the cause.Would really hate to go down the rugby route.That is a f..king joke.Still makes we want to puke when I see that picture of Adams in the England shirt.Realise,I will just have to accept it,but I certainly don't have to like it. Who's not committed to the cause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: I know. But it's nice to have options. Plus Morgan is very much a creative outlet. Has it officially been increased from 23 to 25? I don't think it's official yet. Nor is the 10 day squad list rule. But both look quite likely. I'd love to call up the likes of Morgan, Wright, Welsh, McRorie x2, among others, but there just isn't space for them, and no guarantee they'd improve the squad anyway. Those guys are probably in a bracket below Gauld, Turnbull, Patterson, Hickey and Gilmour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: I don't think it's official yet. Nor is the 10 day squad list rule. But both look quite likely. I'd love to call up the likes of Morgan, Wright, Welsh, McRorie x2, among others, but there just isn't space for them, and no guarantee they'd improve the squad anyway. Those guys are probably in a bracket below Gauld, Turnbull, Patterson, Hickey and Gilmour. Because of the whole Covid thing they really must allow for larger squads. I'd even push it up to 30. Imagine if a squad had a rash of 7 or 8 cases. It would be chaotic. Yeah. You can add Josh Doig to that list, too. He's two footed, so he might be a solution to the RWB spot, along with Patterson. Oh. You just reminded me that Hickey is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Taylor1996 said: Because of the whole Covid thing they really must allow for larger squads. I'd even push it up to 30. Imagine if a squad had a rash of 7 or 8 cases. It would be chaotic. Yeah. You can add Josh Doig to that list, too. He's two footed, so he might be a solution to the RWB spot, along with Patterson. Oh. You just reminded me that Hickey is out Actually, regarding Covid, the smart thing to do would be to keep a large group seperate as back up, so they aren't exposed. But, another unconfirmed rumour is that every player has to be vaccinated prior to the tournament anyway. I hope Clarke is sensible enough to call up a large squad for the Dutch game, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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