Coronavirus

[Auchinyell Sox Change]

10 minutes ago, duncan II said:

Yep. Not trying to win a battle of wits, just wanted to show contempt for a comment expressing utter disregard for the welfare for others.

you okay calling someone a cunt without full context then , am suggesting that measures imposed have been disproportionate to risk to a number who are on last legs anyways ; hopefully we can sometime have a discussion on the massive indirect knock on effect of this ; mental health in the young being only one area - i won't bore you with my own tale of woe , but obviously a bit biased about the whole thing

while am being a total cunt , i also hope after this we can also look at 'lifestyle' choices and how the influx of 'existing comorbidities' that always threatened to overflow the health system had a large proportion of nicotine and pizza addicts within

[Ally Bongo]

57 minutes ago, Auchinyell Sox Change said:

you okay calling someone a cunt without full context then , am suggesting that measures imposed have been disproportionate to risk to a number who are on last legs anyways ; hopefully we can sometime have a discussion on the massive indirect knock on effect of this ; mental health in the young being only one area - i won't bore you with my own tale of woe , but obviously a bit biased about the whole thing

while am being a total cunt , i also hope after this we can also look at 'lifestyle' choices and how the influx of 'existing comorbidities' that always threatened to overflow the health system had a large proportion of nicotine and pizza addicts within

I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion whether it makes them look a total cunt or not

[ParisInAKilt]

Auchinyell isn’t completely wrong though or especially cunty. 

Life does have to move on, as safely as possible. 

[phart]

life by the contempt, die by the contempt though.

Which is why i try and just stick to the data, as opposed to trying to frame it in perjorative do this, or perjorative does that.

Everyone is willing to trade someone elses suffering for their comfort, it's just a case of where you draw the line.

[TDYER63]

18 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

Auchinyell isn’t completely wrong though or especially cunty. 

Life does have to move on, as safely as possible. 

Its possibly the most cunty thing I have read on here for a while, and I am most definitely  in the category that think we need to move on. 

[ParisInAKilt]

I think most folk are reasonable in terms of balancing where that line is drawn. 

Im in WA at the moment, 2 deaths so far from covid I think it is. Ultimately more people will die when the border eventually opens up with the rest of Australia and the world. It’s horrible when you actually think about it like that but it does have to happen. 

[Orraloon]

39 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

I think most folk are reasonable in terms of balancing where that line is drawn. 

Im in WA at the moment, 2 deaths so far from covid I think it is. Ultimately more people will die when the border eventually opens up with the rest of Australia and the world. It’s horrible when you actually think about it like that but it does have to happen. 

The UK is still running at about 1300 deaths per week. 

 

[Lamia]

1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said:

Auchinyell isn’t completely wrong though or especially cunty. 

 

You obviously haven't paid too much attention to his posts

[Lamia]

46 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

I think most folk are reasonable in terms of balancing where that line is drawn. 

 

Some people want to get rid of the line though which is exactly the point I was making. I am quite willing to balance things and I know my line will be in a different place to many and accept that. But I simply don't accept getting rid of the line. There has to be give and take and you can't have no give and just take.

Edited February 11, 2022 by Lamia

[phart]

There isn't even that many restrictions at the moment either. I'm going to see Stewart Lee next month.

[ParisInAKilt]

10 minutes ago, Lamia said:

You obviously haven't paid too much attention to his posts

Or I’m a cunt as well 😂

 

7 minutes ago, Lamia said:

Some people want to get rid of the line though which is exactly the point I was making. I am quite willing to balance things and I know my line will be in a different place to many and accept that. But I simply don't accept getting rid of the line. There has to be give and take and you can't have no give and just take.

That seems reasonable and i don’t disagree. 

[Auchinyell Sox Change]

The woke shall inherit the earths 

[Auchinyell Sox Change]

Just now, Auchinyell Sox Change said:

The woke shall inherit the earths 

Earth

[Orraloon]

What restrictions are folk moaning about. There are hardly any and none are being enforced. Folk can do pretty much anything they want.

[TDYER63]

12 hours ago, Orraloon said:

What restrictions are folk moaning about. There are hardly any and none are being enforced. Folk can do pretty much anything they want.

Exactly. Even mask wearing isn’t being enforced in most places. Guy sitting opposite me on the train yesterday bragging to a woman next to him about how he had never worn a mask in 2 years, apart from on a flight, like it was a fookin badge of honour. She is sitting there with a mask on protecting him and he is slevering his germs over her. 
 

[Ally Bongo]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3.pdf

Long-term cardiovascular outcomes of COVID-19

The cardiovascular complications of acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) are well described, but the post-acute car-diovascular manifestations of COVID-19 have not yet been comprehensively characterized. Here we used national healthcare databases from the US Department of Veterans Affairs to build a cohort of 153,760 individuals with COVID-19, as well as two sets of control cohorts with 5,637,647 (contemporary controls) and 5,859,411 (historical controls) individuals, to estimate risks and 1-year burdens of a set of pre-specified incident cardiovascular outcomes.

We show that, beyond the first 30 d after infection, individuals with COVID-19 are at increased risk of incident cardiovascular disease spanning several categories,
including

cerebrovascular disorders, dysrhythmias, ischemic and non-ischemic heart disease, pericarditis, myocarditis, heart failure and thromboembolic disease. These risks and burdens were evident even among individuals who were not hospitalized during the acute phase of the infection and increased in a graded fashion according to the care setting during the acute phase
(non-hospitalized, hospitalized and admitted to intensive care).

Our results provide evidence that the risk and 1-year burden of cardiovascular disease in survivors of acute COVID-19 are substantial. Care pathways of those surviving the acute episode of COVID-19 should include attention to cardiovascular health and disease.

[Lamia]

4 hours ago, Ally Bongo said:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3.pdf

Long-term cardiovascular outcomes of COVID-19

The cardiovascular complications of acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) are well described, but the post-acute car-diovascular manifestations of COVID-19 have not yet been comprehensively characterized. Here we used national healthcare databases from the US Department of Veterans Affairs to build a cohort of 153,760 individuals with COVID-19, as well as two sets of control cohorts with 5,637,647 (contemporary controls) and 5,859,411 (historical controls) individuals, to estimate risks and 1-year burdens of a set of pre-specified incident cardiovascular outcomes.

We show that, beyond the first 30 d after infection, individuals with COVID-19 are at increased risk of incident cardiovascular disease spanning several categories,
including

cerebrovascular disorders, dysrhythmias, ischemic and non-ischemic heart disease, pericarditis, myocarditis, heart failure and thromboembolic disease. These risks and burdens were evident even among individuals who were not hospitalized during the acute phase of the infection and increased in a graded fashion according to the care setting during the acute phase
(non-hospitalized, hospitalized and admitted to intensive care).

Our results provide evidence that the risk and 1-year burden of cardiovascular disease in survivors of acute COVID-19 are substantial. Care pathways of those surviving the acute episode of COVID-19 should include attention to cardiovascular health and disease.

The hidden epidemic.

[Ally Bongo]

Denmark ended all preventative measures on 1st February

They just decided to "get on with it"

Cases and deaths are spiralling - mortality approaching all time peak

It's just the flu though

 

[phart]

You have to adjust the stats for all the cofounders with Denmark though

 

[Alibi]

On 2/11/2022 at 3:17 PM, Auchinyell Sox Change said:

Its all over , bar the shouting 

thank fvck

altho some people would happily carry on this madness forever ; and am not just talking nicolas acolytes- at least a bunch of normal folks have seen through her and the cult 

the bedwetters, the hypochondriacs, the hand wringers,socialists,the unemployables, the ones scared of their own shadow

brainwashed into bubonic plague comparisons

but but theres a 95 year old granny dribbling soup in a home whos at risk now

give me a nudge when we find a cure for death

Disgusting post.  Beware of karma.

[Ally Bongo]

6 hours ago, Alibi said:

Disgusting post.  Beware of karma.

Rumours by the Torygraph that The Queen has the covid

If it takes her out i can see beheadings being reintroduced for Covid deniers

[Auchinyell Sox Change]

7 hours ago, Alibi said:

Disgusting post.  Beware of karma.

Already had delta ; took all precautions 

couple of losses in family due to indirect causes , karmas been served

so am a bit bitter

time to move on with life and stop the hand wringing 

has nicola put something in the water , where people have lost ability to think for themselves and sit in a circle , chanting ‘boris bad’

[Ally Bongo]

8 minutes ago, Auchinyell Sox Change said:

has nicola put something in the water , where people have lost ability to think for themselves and sit in a circle , chanting ‘boris bad’

Probably your water that is the issue champ

At all times NS has followed the advice from the scientists despite Yoons shouting that "it's all about her"

Johnson has made decisions on what is popular and as a deflection 

[Squirrelhumper]

On 2/13/2022 at 6:00 PM, Ally Bongo said:

Probably your water that is the issue champ

At all times NS has followed the advice from the scientists despite Yoons shouting that "it's all about her"

Johnson has made decisions on what is popular and as a deflection 

Not sure that's exactly true - i'd love to hear the scientific evidence for some of the bizarre rules. 

Not sure we listened to the South African scientists, we just seemed to ignore them and went into full panic mode even though they had more experience of Omicron? Have we followed anything SA did following their outbreak? After all, they were that buzz phrase "ahead of the curve" in comparison to us. They ended isolation for Covid with no symtoms, long before England even mentioned it and it doesn't seem to have any adverse effect? 

Interesting to see what we do with Covid passes now given that NI, Wales and England have got rid of them for nightclubs etc and NS said the other week they would be hear longer term in Scotland. NI also getting rid of all legally enforced restrictions from 28th Feb, same as England. 

Hopefully we remove the charade of having to put on a mask to go to the pisser in a restaurant, whilst at the same time have no need to wear one in a pub or nightclub! Rules for the sake of rules. 

Zero issue with restrictions when they are needed, which they have blatantly massively been needed, especially this time last year but i don't think asking questions of some of the weird decisions the governments have made, make you in any way a yoon!. 

[Ally Bongo]

19 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

 

Not sure we listened to the South African scientists, we just seemed to ignore them and went into full panic mode even though they had more experience of Omicron? Have we followed anything SA did following their outbreak? After all, they were that buzz phrase "ahead of the curve" in comparison to us. They ended isolation for Covid with no symtoms, long before England even mentioned it and it doesn't seem to have any adverse effect? 

 

Caution rather than "panic mode"

The USA is an outlier for Omicron in that it has sped up deaths unlike elsewhere