Orraloon Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Our rugby team has always made quarter final appearances in the world cup. Not "always". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Not "always". Maybe not always but we certainly make the quarter apearances alot which is what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Maybe not always but we certainly make the quarter apearances alot which is what I meant. Tbh at the most a dozen rugby teams are good enough to challenge for the quarter finals so being 1 of the 8 isn't that huge an achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Maybe not always but we certainly make the quarter apearances alot which is what I meant. 2011 lost to Argentina in the groups. 2019 out to Japan in the groups. There's a decisive case in mitigation in the 2015 QF thanks to that c*nt Joubert. But no - certainly not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Tbh at the most a dozen rugby teams are good enough to challenge for the quarter finals so being 1 of the 8 isn't that huge an achievement. This is what I am talking about with negativity. South africa, England, France Australia, Italy are all massively bigger in population and in South Africa and Australia the sport is more popular than it is in Scotland. We do reasonably well in rugby for a nation our size. Yes we could do better but that's life, small countries go through spells when they are good and spells when they are poor. What do ppl expect, for us to dominate a sport when we are competing against countries with ten times our population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz1982 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: This is what I am talking about with negativity. South africa, England, France Australia, Italy are all massively bigger in population and in South Africa and Australia the sport is more popular than it is in Scotland. We do reasonably well in rugby for a nation our size. Yes we could do better but that's life, small countries go through spells when they are good and spells when they are poor. What do ppl expect, for us to dominate a sport when we are competing against countries with ten times our population? New Zealand do it which proves that it is actually possible. Edited October 13, 2019 by Daz1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Daz1982 said: New Zealand do it which proves that it is actually possible. It's new Zealands national sport, they are massively passionate about rugby. I am not suggesting we cant do better but to suggest that we are terrible or a nation of losers because we don't dominate rugby is negative to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: It's new Zealands national sport, they are massively passionate about rugby. I am not suggesting we cant do better but to suggest that we are terrible or a nation of losers because we don't dominate rugby is negative to say the Rugby is a way of life For a lot of new zealanders. They take it more seriously than any other nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: This is what I am talking about with negativity. South africa, England, France Australia, Italy are all massively bigger in population and in South Africa and Australia the sport is more popular than it is in Scotland. We do reasonably well in rugby for a nation our size. Yes we could do better but that's life, small countries go through spells when they are good and spells when they are poor. What do ppl expect, for us to dominate a sport when we are competing against countries with ten times our population? Just being realistic, reaching the World Cup quarters isn't much more of an achievement than finishing in the 6 Nations top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: Just being realistic, reaching the World Cup quarters isn't much more of an achievement than finishing in the 6 Nations top 4. And yet more negativity, if it's that easy then every country should be able to do it. What is your expectation, should we be getting semi finals every WC or perhaps we should win every tournament. Do you expect Scotland to win every medal at the Olympics or have a belt holder in every boxing division. Jesus wept it's like ppl in here think we are shite as soon as we lose in a sport. A little perspective is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: And yet more negativity, if it's that easy then every country should be able to do it. What is your expectation, should we be getting semi finals every WC or perhaps we should win every tournament. Do you expect Scotland to win every medal at the Olympics or have a belt holder in every boxing division. Jesus wept it's like ppl in here think we are shite as soon as we lose in a sport. A little perspective is needed. Whoah there! No one could be prouder than me of the plentiful Scottish sporting achievements over the years, and I love the fact that we sit in the top 10 of world rugby. However as I said it's a fact that there are only about a dozen countries who play rugby to a decent standard. We will make the quarter finals more often than not but are unlikely to get further than that due to the strength of the top 4 or 5 nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Toepoke said: Whoah there! No one could be prouder than me of the plentiful Scottish sporting achievements over the years, and I love the fact that we sit in the top 10 of world rugby. However as I said it's a fact that there are only about a dozen countries who play rugby to a decent standard. We will make the quarter finals more often than not but are unlikely to get further than that due to the strength of the top 4 or 5 nations. Yeh I agree there are only about 12 countries who play rugby to a decent standard, amazingly we are one of them and it's not even our main sport. If that is a poor achievement or not good enough then what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Yeh I agree there are only about 12 countries who play rugby to a decent standard, amazingly we are one of them and it's not even our main sport. If that is a poor achievement or not good enough then what is. It's just a quirk of how rugby has developed as a sport. If it becomes more established around the world it'll be more of a challenge for us to maintain our status. Eg. we were one of the top teams in world football for most of the first century of internationals, mainly because we were decades ahead of other countries when it came to playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: This is what I am talking about with negativity. South africa, England, France Australia, Italy are all massively bigger in population and in South Africa and Australia the sport is more popular than it is in Scotland. We do reasonably well in rugby for a nation our size. Yes we could do better but that's life, small countries go through spells when they are good and spells when they are poor. What do ppl expect, for us to dominate a sport when we are competing against countries with ten times our population? It's only the fourth most popular sport in Australia. (Edit - might not even be that, could be fifth or sixth depending how you determine that; definitely behind Rugby League, Aussie Rules, Cricket, and probably football). Nobody's expecting us to dominate. The whole good spell / bad spell thing is right, but at the moment we have more talent available than we have had for a long time, but we're not capitalising on it to have one of the good spells. Edited October 14, 2019 by biffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Wales certainly got the breaks today. Japan v South Africa should be a cracker now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Wales certainly got the breaks today. Japan v South Africa should be a cracker now... They did but France played above themselves and Wales weren't at their best at all but still got the job done. As for Japan V South Africa well who knows what will happen there. All past history and such like suggest the Saffers should win fairly comfortably but Japan are a growing rugby nation with a lot of momentum just now so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Hopefully another close game. The two yesterday were very one sided. I thought Australia would have put up a better fight against the poms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Japan great to watch at times, getting some help from the ref and South African mistakes though otherwise they'd be much further behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Aye, ref's a homer, right enough. They got away with at least 3 forward passes and there was nothing wrong with that try at the end of the half. Best QF so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Japan been mauled to death this half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Impressive display of Springbok power rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Yeah, very good from the boks in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 England 3/1 to beat NZ, maybe chuck 20 on it to soften any upset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Hard to believe this is the first time England and New Zealand have met at the RWC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 England should be more than 10-0 up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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