killiefaetheferry Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Toepoke said: The 70s? There was a six year period where Ayr finished above Killie, their most successful time under Ally McLeod. They've only been Ayrshire's top team 20 times since the club was founded in 1910. But as for being the 'big' team ? They were still just the wee team having a decent spell while the big team were a bit mince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 On 20/02/2016 at 8:45 PM, Toepoke said: Years Manager Pld W Win % 2010-11 Mixu Paatelainen 34 15 44.1% 1992-94 Tommy Burns 112 48 42.9% Those two caught my eye. Good stats anyway. Although he was very much "Mr Celtic" to the core, Tommy Burns always spoke very highly of the Kilmarnock players and fans from his time there. Could he perhaps have taken Killie to greater heights if Celtic had looked elsewhere for a manager in 1994 ? Why did big Mixu leave Killie again ? I remember his Killie team being very combative and unafraid of the Old Firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 42 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Although he was very much "Mr Celtic" to the core, Tommy Burns always spoke very highly of the Kilmarnock players and fans from his time there. Could he perhaps have taken Killie to greater heights if Celtic had looked elsewhere for a manager in 1994 ? Why did big Mixu leave Killie again ? I remember his Killie team being very combative and unafraid of the Old Firm. Loved TB, it's largely thanks to him that the club has spent over 20 years in the top league. Was gutted when he left but I think his managerial limitations were starting to appear (you've got to note that many of his wins were in the First Division). If he'd stayed in the job we were signing Pat Bonner and Charlie Nicholas in the close season. Mixu left to take up the Finland job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 8:07 PM, one t in scotland said: Kilmarnock were in the bottom tier of Scottish football not that ago and were absolutely rank throughout the entire 80's. Or did the bank write off these seasons from the records too in a 'good deal' for KFC historians? I'm 31 and Killie have been in the top tier for 2/3rds of my life with no interupton. Not many sides been in the SPL the past two decades. Aberdeen, Celtic and Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 16 hours ago, Toepoke said: Loved TB, it's largely thanks to him that the club has spent over 20 years in the top league. Was gutted when he left but I think his managerial limitations were starting to appear (you've got to note that many of his wins were in the First Division). If he'd stayed in the job we were signing Pat Bonner and Charlie Nicholas in the close season. Mixu left to take up the Finland job. I would take Bonner and Nicholas right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 16 hours ago, Toepoke said: Loved TB, it's largely thanks to him that the club has spent over 20 years in the top league. Me too. I might be a bit hypocrital in slagging all the Princess Di type grief junkies greeting when 'celebs' die, as I cried when TB passed. Tbf I had briefly met and chatted with the man, and you always feel a connection when you are seeing footballers in the flesh every week - clapping, singing, getting a wave back etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 That reminds me of the time I went to a game at Rugby Park in the mid 70s. It was between Kilmarnock and the Scotland U21 team - might actually have been U23s then thinking about it. It must have been an international break - possibly home Internationals - as I think the Scotland team were training at Seamill. I'm pretty sure they did some sort of training session on the pitch beforehand. I was in the old kids enclosure in front of the main stand and I remember climbing up into the stand to get autographs. Tommy Burns was playing for the U21/U23 and I ran on the pitch after the game and got his autograph, I remember him being very pleasant. Always had a lot of time for Tommy Burns one of the genuinely good guys in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, aaid said: Always had a lot of time for Tommy Burns one of the genuinely good guys in football. tommy burns and roy aitken went to the away end to applaud the celtic fans the day they through a c.s canister into the terracing at easter road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 55 minutes ago, dan cake said: tommy burns and roy aitken went to the away end to applaud the celtic fans the day they through a c.s canister into the terracing at easter road In terms of bearing a petty grudge for thirty years, I've got to say that's pretty impressive. Anyway, didn't the rubbish Celtic Casuals cock that up as the wind blew the CS gas back into them if something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, aaid said: In terms of bearing a petty grudge for thirty years, I've got to say that's pretty impressive. Anyway, didn't the rubbish Celtic Casuals cock that up as the wind blew the CS gas back into them if something. people could have died that day nothing petty about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 And it was all Tommy Burns' fault clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, aaid said: And it was all Tommy Burns' fault clearly. not sure why you are making things up worthy of applause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If you think that Tommy Burns applauding the Celtic fans after a game was because one of them had thrown a CS gas canister into the Hibs end then you need your head read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, aaid said: If you think that Tommy Burns applauding the Celtic fans after a game was because one of them had thrown a CS gas canister into the Hibs end then you need your head read. i dont and never said i did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Are you saying that he applauded them DESPITE the CS gas thing, and that it casts a shadow on our Tommy Burns great guy love-in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 26 minutes ago, killiefaetheferry said: Are you saying that he applauded them DESPITE the CS gas thing, and that it casts a shadow on our Tommy Burns great guy love-in ? in a nutshell he wasnt a great guy that day imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I'm 31 and Killie have been in the top tier for 2/3rds of my life with no interupton. Not many sides been in the SPL the past two decades. Aberdeen, Celtic and Motherwell. Utd too. Although we won't make season 21... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, adamntg said: Utd too. Although we won't make season 21.. 24 minutes ago, adamntg said: 24 minutes ago, adamntg said: Utd too. Although we won't make season 21... You were relegated in 1995 were you not? Edited February 22, 2016 by Angus_Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Relegated in 94/95. Promoted in 95/96, relegated again in 2015/16 after twenty years in Premier. What are we arguing about here? Edited February 23, 2016 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 17 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I'm 31 and Killie have been in the top tier for 2/3rds of my life with no interupton. Not many sides been in the SPL the past two decades. Aberdeen, Celtic and Motherwell. Actually, Aberdeen and Motherwell have both finished in what would ordinarily be relegation positions, so in the last 20 years only Celtic, Killie and United have not finished in the drop zone. And that could well be only Celtic by May... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 32 minutes ago, adamntg said: Actually, Aberdeen and Motherwell have both finished in what would ordinarily be relegation positions, so in the last 20 years only Celtic, Killie and United have not finished in the drop zone. And that could well be only Celtic by May... Rangers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Rangers? Good point, never been "relegated" despite the common misconception they have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Ok, good point, I'll rephrase. Only Celtic, Killie and United have been in the top flight for the last twenty years continuously without being relegated or finishing in a relegation position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 19 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I'm 31 and Killie have been in the top tier for 2/3rds of my life with no interupton. Not many sides been in the SPL the past two decades. Aberdeen, Celtic and Motherwell. And mostly subsidised by taxpayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 16 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: And mostly subsidised by taxpayers. We all know you dont really believe that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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