phart Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 6 hours ago, thplinth said: I don't think it is a 'fake' passport either. It is a genuine Austrian one with genuine visas in it apparently. Makes you wonder how he got it (legally or illegally). Probably been entrapping folk for decades for the security services. It's weird cause David Bowie etc fucked a14 year old and are held in high esteem, Jimmy Page dated the same girl. There's something not quite right with all this. It seems more prevalent than it "should" be. Like why the fuck was Saville a confidant of Prince Charles and at Christmas with Thatcher. Prince Andrew palled about with Epstein at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: He appears to be playing a blinder with this latest tweet outrage and the democrats fall for it He does, certainly with his own supporters. How would you suggest the Democrats should've handled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: He does, certainly with his own supporters. How would you suggest the Democrats should've handled it. Ignored him. At least instead of going down the he’s a racist path which didn’t work in 2016 and probably won’t work this time either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Ignored him. At least instead of going down the he’s a racist path which didn’t work in 2016 and probably won’t work this time either. It's easy for most of us to pretend to ourselves that all this Trump stuff isn't really happening, a bit trickier when you're his direct opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Eisegerwind said: It's easy for most of us to pretend to ourselves that all this Trump stuff isn't really happening, a bit trickier when you're his direct opposition. Is his border policy much different to Obama’s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Ignored him. At least instead of going down the he’s a racist path which didn’t work in 2016 and probably won’t work this time either. Staggering. You think they should just let him spout that absolute utter shite, and not say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Is his border policy much different to Obama’s? I thought you were referring to his 'they can leave stuff'. No idea about his/Obama's border policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 On 7/18/2019 at 7:40 AM, Ally Bongo said: I'd be alright with the SNP starting a send them back chant if it referred to Hothersall and Hague .......... Opening a huge can of worms right enough never mind letting the genie out the bottle along with every other analogy ............... If we can't get 54% plus of 'Scots' to vote Yes then we really don't deserve independence, but I understand your view. And certainly crows in my throat a bit when I hear entitled English residents - who get the benefits of living in Scotland and the Scottish government - vote for the Tories or Brexit Party or run down Holyrood, Scotland in general yet living the utter life of Riley. It is a murky path to go down though, but sadly I think at least 50% of rUK citizens who live in Scotland will never back independence. Although we do have 200k or so EU residents who you would think after the shambles of the past years will be a clear Yes ; and I know of at least 2 Scots who either voted No or abstained in 2014 are now huge supporters of statehood. One abstained - said he couldn't vote against it at the time, but had huge concerns about an iScotland ; second was an internationalist/European/World citizen socialist etc who thought borders were silly and better to be in two unions etc and now gone the other way and thinks we have to go our own way e.g just imagine a younger, Simon Pia really. If we can win over Pia, Murray Foote, Malcolm Chisholm (is almost there) then we can most certainly win a second referendum. OOPS! Didn't realise this was a Trump thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, kumnio said: Staggering. You think they should just let him spout that absolute utter shite, and not say anything. No but allowing him to isolate certain democrats with views that swing voters won’t really like doesn’t seem to be a winning strategy, assuming winning in 2020 is the most important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: I thought you were referring to his 'they can leave stuff'. No idea about his/Obama's border policy. I think it was the border stuff that kicked this all off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 hours ago, phart said: There's something not quite right with all this. It seems more prevalent than it "should" be. Like why the fuck was Saville a confidant of Prince Charles and at Christmas with Thatcher. Prince Andrew palled about with Epstein at one point. You know this I am sure. The theory seems to be that pedophiles are what they are looking for because a) they are naturally soulless fuckers without a gram of human empathy. How the fuck can someone rape a baby only months old? They are psychos. And then b) it also means you are unquestionably one of the club because you are totally blackmailable. Saville was protected I'd say with certainty, by whom and for why... guesswork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: No but allowing him to isolate certain democrats with views that swing voters won’t really like doesn’t seem to be a winning strategy, assuming winning in 2020 is the most important thing. Swing voters would by definition not be extreme Republicans, not often I will do this, but surely to their credit, American swing voters will realise that this isn't acceptable. Its absolutely unacceptable and toxic what he is doing, any reasonable Republican must look at their party and wonder what the fuck has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, kumnio said: Swing voters would by definition not be extreme Republicans, not often I will do this, but surely to their credit, American swing voters will realise that this isn't acceptable. Its absolutely unacceptable and toxic what he is doing, any reasonable Republican must look at their party and wonder what the fuck has happened. I don’t know, if what he said in the lead up to 2016 didn’t put you off then I doubt this will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: I think it was the border stuff that kicked this all off. No, it was when he was voted in as the President that kicked all this off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Eisegerwind said: No, it was when he was voted in as the President that kicked all this off. Democracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) If you can get good odds on a Trump landslide, bet heavy is my tip*. * as at 19/7/19 Edited July 19, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, thplinth said: If you can get good odds on a Trump landslide, bet heavy is my tip. I had money on him last time, sadly not a significant amount. I don't think he has a chance in 2020 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, kumnio said: I had money on him last time, sadly not a significant amount. I don't think he has a chance in 2020 though. Aye same as in 2016. Not a chance they said... Landslide. The democrats are so shite it takes my breath away. There is one (or maybe two) candidate(s) who could beat him. Not in a million years will they get nominated. Edited July 19, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 He’s evens the now. Harris the closest at 3/1, so not much in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: He’s evens the now. Harris the closest at 3/1, so not much in it Evens isn't great considering he's guaranteed to one of runners in a two horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) We are a long way out and anything can happen but if the odds are stupid high against it happening... I'd be betting heavy on a Trump landslide. Forget the polls. No cunt admits to supporting Trump... until election day. Edited July 19, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, thplinth said: Aye same as in 2016. Not a chance they said... Landslide. The democrats are so shite it takes my breath away. There is one (or maybe two) candidate(s) who could beat him. Not in a million years will they get nominated. Well, I thought he c/would win, hence why I had money on it. I think 2020 will be very different. I think I got six or seven to one maybe, it was certainly big odds in a two horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Quick google there and Vox and the like are saying his numbers are looking weak. Trump win then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, kumnio said: Well, I thought he c/would win, hence why I had money on it. I think 2020 will be very different. I think I got six or seven to one maybe, it was certainly big odds in a two horse race. Please kev send me a PM if it gets that mad... I am not a betting man so don't follow it closely but I will make an exception for that. (How many times are people going to trust the polls! lol.) Edited July 19, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I also said that Obama wouldn't win his first election, so WTF do I know 😁. Trump being the incumbent wont have anywhere near good odds this time, Id be surprised if he even got as high as 3/2. Is that even an odds that bookies ever offer, or do they say 6/4? Cant recall ever seeing it, but some must be 1.5 right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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